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<0> Woot.
<0> Got the Yukon I to receive a packet.
<1> :O a packet
<0> That means I did the initialization dance correctly.
<0> Initializing the Yukon chips is a pain.
<0> Thank god this stupid thing only has one port.
<2> Evil-Bill: What's so hard about it?
<0> There's several subsystems that have to be turned on (buffer management unit, MAC FIFO units, RAMbuffer units, MAC and PHY subunits) and they all have to be initialized in the right order.
<3> anybody online now ?
<0> No. :P
<3> Evil-Bill: hi
<4> nein
<5> Can anyone tell me what the problem with this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/NsgQ5O84.html code is. It is multiblock and is supposed to print out the contents of a file, however, this prints out nothing. It works fine when not using multiblock
<6> morning all
<5> http://rafb.net/paste/results/NsgQ5O84.html. It is multiblock and is supposed to print out the contents of a file, however, this prints out nothing. It works fine when not using multiblock.
<7> PPower: sorry - seems like atm no one with clue about is awake
<5> lol
<7> :)
<5> what was that
<5> what happened?
<5> http://rafb.net/paste/results/NsgQ5O84.html. It is multiblock and is supposed to print out the contents of a file, however, this prints out nothing. It works fine when not using multiblock.
<8> Hello.. i need to create novell binary of DOSemu .. Can someone give some clues?
<9> TERVE!
<4> yawn
<7> morning geist
<10> la-la-la
<10> http://www.jonhs.com/freemovies/they_came_from_beyond_space.htm
<4> right
<10> http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/#free_movies
<10> Plan 9 is a non-must
<10> it's just hilarious how the flock of sheeps fades into a flock of factory workers
<10> hm... how to get fat12 floppies in linux
<10> hoax? http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/area_51.htm
<2> horribleX: mtools?
<10> dunno
<10> when I format floppies in windows, is that fat12?
<2> I think it is.
<10> thx
<4> horribleX: yes
<4> with no partition table
<10> excellent
<0> Woot, my Yukon I driver works on MIPS BE.
<0> Only took me a weekend to write it.
<10> We only worship LE guys
<0> It works on pentium too. :)
<4> woot
<10> "Hail Evil Bill"
<10> hm, is the PBS Nova series online somewherE?
<2> horribleX: ?
<10> !
<2> .
<10> oh noes, we all live in a 11-dimensional loaf of bread
<10> stay the **** away from my slice
<2> horribleX: As long as you do not enter my private dimension.
<10> i'm already there
<10> alas, I cannot see you
<4> horribleX: are you someone new to here or just a new nick?
<10> i'm gr00ber's evil brother
<5> I have this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/NsgQ5O84.html code to read using multiblock and print out the results. Multiblock should be getting the location of the next block froma bit of data at the end of the preceeding one. However, this code does not print out anything from the file. Without multiblock it does
<11> horribleX: hmm, you got an even more horrible nick? :P
<4> PPower: what is that, like the 4th time you've asked that question?
<5> yeah, cause nobody answered
<4> okay, here's an answer: I dont know
<5> gah
<10> multiwhat?
<10> context?
<5> multiblock
<4> yeah, it completely lacks context
<4> it's just one slice of a much larger thing, any of which might have the bug
<10> yup
<5> ah
<5> want the SVN?
<4> no
<10> doubleo
<4> well, I mean I 'm not going to look at it
<4> too busy
<5> ok
<10> same here, to busy wasting time on IRC
<10> and watching old movies
<5> gah
<10> radio gah gah
<10> lonsl
<2> lol
<2> horribleX: ?
<10> !
<2> wtf is lonsl?
<10> laughing out not so loud
<4> haha, that was great
<4> he's going to complain to freenode
<11> yeh geist, you better hide :P
<10> he thinks we're on *free*node salery?
<4> next time he's here we just need to exoplain to him that we dont just straight up debug someone's code
<4> especially when they keep coming back again and again the next time they find a bug
<10> maybe /topic should say
<4> doubly so when the code is obviously more complex than trivial
<4> no one is going to just take an hour out of their life debugging someone elses code
<11> someone might, but they're rare
<10> I seem to do that at work on a regular basis :|
<4> right. and only the first time. he's already come back again and again
<4> Evil-Bill helped him yesterday for quite a while
<11> mm, helped some dude the other day on efnet, two days later he was back with the same question..
<11> kinda makes you give up hope in humanity..
<10> hm, seems big bang wasn't that big
<4> right. in an ideal world everyone has time to help everyone
<11> or time to help themselves :)
<4> but you have to draw the line somewhere, and in this case it's at 'debug your code'
<12> in an ideal world people dont need help :-)
<4> since debugging broken code isn't osdev per se. that's just programming
<11> yeh
<10> geist, is your ELF code portable (endianess, 32/64 bit)?
<4> about half n half
<4> I wrote a 64-bit version of the ELF code, but it's not terribly well tested
<4> basically ELF itself isn't really portable. it is in that the algorithms and the data structures are mostly the same
<10> right
<4> but 32/64 isn't really the same thing. a lot of the fields are expanded, needs different code
<4> and of course each arch has a big pile of arch speicific relocations, etc
<10> yes
<4> but I did write the elf code so that the core stuff is portable, and you plug in the backend code
<10> and you support execs, relocatable and shared objects?
<2> In #grub there was a guy who demanded our help and immediatly. When I told him it was very clear documented he started to complain and said "This is a help channel". :-))
<10> heh
<4> horribleX: yes
<11> marco_g: and you kicked him?? :)
<10> excellent
<10> geist, do you have a reference doc pointer?
<12> marco_g: help? as in help learn how to read? I dind't realize IRC channels like that existed :-)
<4> the laoder fully supports shared libs, dynamically loaded libs, demand paging
<10> nice
<4> the only thing it doesn't really do is lazy bind symbols and lazy load libs
<4> it loads everything up front and patches all the symbols right then
<4> though it lazy pages in the binary
<10> eager loading
<2> Cippo: I think I did.
<10> :)
<11> marco_g: good boy =)
<4> if you dig through newos you'll find a couple of loaders. the stage2 has a simple elf loader, enough to load the kernel
<4> the kernel has a more complex loader to laod kernel modules (deals with relocation, symbol patching)
<2> Cippo: I do not kick people often, but when they are abusive it is easy. :)
<11> yeh
<4> the user space loader is a cl***ic unix ld.so style loader
<2> vlad9: He thought we sat in the channel all day waiting for someone demanding help.
<12> marco_g: isn't that what IRC is all about though?!?!
<10> geist, i'm defining a component arch, and I think ELF is the right choice
<12> =)
<2> vlad9: While the channel is mainly for developers and people with freaky questions. :)
<2> vlad9: :))
<10> basically I don't need all the bells and whistles
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