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<0> good old quaternions
<1> lick my...
<1> ...kernel
<2> Ugh.
<3> eieio: i love quaternions :)
<0> the best part about writing a lot of code, is not having to rewrite a lot of code
<3> heh
<0> like quaternion operations. not hard, but still annoying to retype
<3> well, you don't haveto once you do it right the first time
<0> yep, exactly
<3> unless you're talking about power-outs and not saving your work or something
<0> no, i'm speaking of having a large personal library
<3> i have a few shell scripts, does that count?
<0> sure, it's a start :-)
<0> ;-)
<3> my personal favorite in my personal library of shell scripts is 'sift'
<3> it moves files around based on filetype
<3> shackan: in the 3D part
<3> :)
<4> heh..
<3> make it so the only way to access the kernel is in 3D land with gloves and little robots attacking you unless you have a p***word
<3> hehe
<0> heh, it's for some test code for acceleration framework
<4> cool
<4> 3D acceleration?
<0> both 2D and 3D, yeah
<4> since ogl and directx should already have all the functions to handle almost all the required math, I ***ume you're using neither of them ?
<0> well, it's not really that simple
<0> most directly i have a software fallback for unsupported hardware, to maintain orthogonality
<4> oh, so you support ogl/dx/software ? then it gets a LOT more complex
<0> also, AFAIK neither opengl nor directx support quaternion operations directly
<4> ok sorry, I was just ***uming
<0> on top of that you can't always operate in a hardware context
<0> no prob. eventually i will finish up with the nVidia driver port. but for now i'm going a head with the framework
<4> well sure, physics and AI don't belong to the GPU, if that's what you mean
<0> umm, well you can do the math on the GPU if you like, but you still have to supply the code. actually there is a big move to use a second GPU for physics, since the mathematics are very similar
<4> but it's for work or just fun ?
<0> umm, well it does contribute to my overall goals for the project, if that's what you mean
<4> the project being the monarc thing ?
<0> right
<4> eieio++ !
<0> :-)
<1> that would make eio?
<5> maf is hard
<6> god I love emacs
<6> i woke up today happy to use emacs
<4> you need to seek professional help
<7> oh god
<6> i might get an emacs tattoo
<8> icmp: you are insane, clearly...
<6> :>
<3> i like emacs too
<4> jeesus, do you have to start the whole 'what's my favourite text editor' argument AGAIN AND AGAIN ?
<7> :D
<9> shackan: MY VIEWS AND/OR BELEIFS ARE SUPERIOR TO YOURS!
<9> We call that a meta-flamewar.
<4> mh?
<9> Saves time.
<9> No need for specific, quasi-rational arguments ;]
<0> http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7249/veryodd1kb.jpg
<10> Evil-Bill: Poke.
<10> Evil-Bill: Do you have the if_myk driver running on -CURRENT?
<4> eieio, I used to have that one as my desktop
<10> humph
<10> :]
<9> icmp: ping!
<9> pong?
<9> No pong =(
<6> pong
<9> yaay
<11> re
<12> bye folks
<13> why's everyone in this IRC?
<13> instead of at the wyldryde one?
<9> 1) never heard of 'wyldryde'
<14> copying data between two instances of vim is doable, right?
<9> 2) Places that intentionally spell things wrong annoys the hell out of me.
<15> Because we're all on other freenode channels, and couldn't be bothered running more than three irc clients?
<9> nyef: your IRC client won't connect to multiple servers? =(
<14> nyef, stone age, eh? hehe
<15> iank: Not the point. -Three- IRC networks is more than enough.
<15> wyldryde would be a fourth.
<14> say, doesn't Jabber "centralize" such IRC network connectivity to make it all look like one large network?
<13> man, I feel like I fell into...a new city or something
<13> I'm from wyldryde, how do you do, lol
<13> i'm poking around here cause I cant seem to connect to my regular servers, so...
<13> what do you guys do around here?
<15> Various OS hacking, presumably.
<13> lol, but I mean...anyone got anything in the works?
<15> Well, I'm sortof not doing anything with my Lisp OS right now, and I just hit the maximum kernel size on my Forth OS while cleaning up the display driver...
<13> hmm...lisp? why lisp?
<13> i didnt know you could do hardware level stuff with it anyhow
<15> That's not the sort of question which can be answered.
<15> Sure you can. I had to hack the compiler to understand I/O port access, but that wasn't difficult.
<13> quick question tho: I can't connect to my regular server (like I said), so I joined this one
<13> if I get into a room here, it'd be a duplicate or...
<15> "room"? This is IRC, they're called "channels".
<13> well, w/e
<13> you understand what I meant
<13> and for that matter, who's the op here?
<15> Dunno. Ask chanserv?
<13> never mind..
<13> but is the channel a duplicate of the original, or is it the same systemwide?
<13> i'm guessing not
<13> there are quite a lot of people here
<13> well, the biggest difference between this channel and the other one seems to be that you guys either talk about OSDeving, or nothing
<13> who knows bran?
<14> ??
<14> there are likely to be 100+ brans logged on right now
<13> how do the servers differentiate between them all w/o changing their usernames and stff
<13> don't you guys talk at all?
<14> yeah, when we should be working
<13> lol, story of my life i guess
<13> so this is the server for what, megatokyo?
<15> The webcomic?
<13> umm..the osdev site
<13> hey zat
<16> ello
<13> hey cody, long time no see
<13> yeah, i'm outta here
<13> dorks
<13> I was j/k, btw
<13> bye
<17> dork
<5> dork
<18> bork
<1> VIM intellisense is senseless :-/
<1> cheezus
<5> source insight does a pretty good job
<5> it's big problem are things it can't know about, like pieces of code that are turned on via #if
<15> The semantic bovinator, for example, thought that one of my files contained more than a hundred functions called OP(), returning int.
<5> blergh
<16> *hump*
<5> boop?
<11> hi
<19> hi
<19> re
<20> <19> re
<19> hi zateam_
<21> hello
<22> So here's a question that has been bugging me for a bit: suppose an OS is built with the kernel mapped in each process' address space. Then the process makes a system call, we head off to the kernel and it allocates a page frame for itself. The kernel has to map a VA to that PA to work with it. So far so good.
<22> The kernel maps some VA to the PA but it does so in the address space of the user mode process (with RPL=0 of course). Now, if there's an address space switch to another process the page frame mapped in is not available from this address space.
<22> err... RPL = U/S
<15> Snrrrub: Share the kernel page tables across all processes?
<22> nyef, so I'd have to add a PTE in every process' address space, yes?
<22> Oh, wait. I see. That was dumb of me.
<22> Touche.
<22> Thanks!
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