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<0> hmmmm...I've been googling, but I can't find much...my Zaurus 5600 (Poodle) freezes (screen stays on) wehn I suspend under GPE, works fine under OPIE
<0> thoughts?
<1> calmofthestorm7: its probably just shagged, next version of OZ is I think 2.6 kernel based and will work much better
<1> calmofthestorm7: 5600 didnt get much testing as we dont have many of them
<0> aah
<0> ...but I am running a 2.6 kernel
<0> according to uname -a it's 2.6.17
<1> calmofthestorm7: self compiled?
<0> no, stock 3.5.4.2rc2
<1> calmofthestorm7: oh, the rc releases
<0> anyway, any thoughts about the GPE vs OPIE discrepency?
<0> if you don't midn my asking, how deep is the difference; eg, could there theoretically exist something like XDM/GDM for the Zaurus that lets you switch between them?
<0> I saw the how to that lets you run them on different vt
<1> calmofthestorm7: quick check of the repo and the xserver is missing a patch I wrote to fix that problem
<0> the suspend issue you mean?
<1> calmofthestorm7: to conform, can you killall apmd then try suspend
<1> calmofthestorm7: yes the syspend iussue
<0> hang on, need to boot
<0> so you want me to boot, killall apmd then select suspend from the menu (which I ***ume is the same as suspend.sh)
<1> calmofthestorm7: yes
<0> (still booting)
<0> it successfully suspends
<0> and comes back
<0> but I think the xserver might have restarted
<1> calmofthestorm7: yeah, that is bug no 2
<1> calmofthestorm7: file a bug at bugs.openembedded.org and Ill fix it next week if no-one else does
<0> um ok, do I just describe the problem?
<1> calmofthestorm7: just copy and past this irc log
<0> ok
<0> will do so
<1> calmofthestorm7: disable-apm patch is missing
<0> ...does it matter that the xserver dies on suspend?
<1> calmofthestorm7: my patch should fix that as well, its two birds with one stone type
<0> ooh lovely
<0> I heart free software
<0> anyway, thanks much and I shall post the bug shortly
<1> calmofthestorm7: I need to talk to hrw|gone to find out what X server next release will use
<0> cool
<2> any here who can point me to some good reading material on the various WPA modes? In my Linksys WRT, I have the following options:
<2> Pre-Shared Key
<2> PSK RADIUS
<2> RADIUS
<2> WEP
<2> I've read the help ***ociated with this, but it's not improving my understanding any.
<3> adamowitz: check out wikipedia, I'm sure that'll clear it up
<2> I can get Pre-Shared Key mode to work, and it seems simple enough to understand.
<2> Done already.
<3> I think RADIUS requires a sever authentication setup
<2> Ya, I have a RADIUS server.
<3> oh... hrm... in that case, I have no idea :-P sorry
<2> And I thought I understood it, but now that I'm adding a new WRT to the net, it's escaping me.
<3> you have it setup on other access points?
<2> Yes, but the other access points don't seem to be using a standard configuration... it works for me, but now that I study it, I'll be darned if I understand how.
<2> Or, more specifically, *which* mode these other APs are in.
<2> the other APs are DD-WRT.
<2> They show up in KisMAC as WEP (very strange) and yet, I have WPA clients configured to work with them, and they talk to the RADIUS server just fine...
<2> This setting of Linksys: PSK RADIUS seems like an odd beast. Everything I've read about WPA says that there are two mutually exclusive modes: either PSK or Enterprise (aka. RADIUS). What is this PSK RADIUS mode? Some mixture?
<3> adamowitz: I'm really not sure
<2> thanks anyway...
<4> http://www.angrymods.com/projects/***orted_mayhem/Tinas_burritos.jpg nsfw
<4> LOL
<4> OMG. dont click that. sorry, this was NOT the channel I thought I was posting in
<4> too mny windows open. sorry guys.. <me ducks>
<3> would something like http://www.colorgraphic.net/newsite/products/handheld_overview.html work on OZ?
<5> summatusmentis: Only if there's a linux driver for it
<5> summatusmentis: I'd also question gpe/opie support
<5> summatusmentis: Long story short.. unless you're willing to gamble, it might not be the best idea
<6> or you can ask "where is windows for my zaurus" :)
<3> kolla: heresy!!!
<6> :)
<7> ahha Com[Plex]
<0> so I have a question...I really like the OPIE interface, but I need X compatability. Can I run OPIE under GPE, like as my window manager?
<3> calmofthestorm7: there's supposed to be a way to get X under opie, xqt2 or something like that
<3> it's slower the GPE
<0> yeah, also it doesn't support qt3 apps
<0> which I need
<3> there's also a way to run both OPIE and GPE at te same time...
<3> OPIE doesn't?
<0> well so I need LyX
<0> which is linked against x libraries of qt3
<3> oh... I'm not sure you're going to be able to do that
<0> how come?
<3> I think opie is qt2
<0> I think it is too
<3> maybe I'm mistaken
<0> which is why I need true X
<0> I mostly just want the window manager OPIE has
<3> well, but GPE doesn't have qt
<0> ooooh it doesn't?
<3> calmofthestorm7: no, I think the options are either qt, or X
<3> I suppose it's possible to do both, but you'd need all packages required for both
<0> lyx can use something called Xforms, would I fare better with that?
<3> I don't know what that is
<3> what is lyx?
<0> document preparation software
<0> eg, a frontend for latex
<3> oh... I see
<0> so gpe isn't a full xserver then?
<3> I don't believe so
<0> damn
<3> it may be, but that's not my understanding
<3> what Z?
<0> 5600
<3> mmm
<3> you might look into pocketworkstation
<3> or hang out here and ask one of the gurus about GPE's X situation
<0> thanks much, I appreciate the free advice;)
<3> heh... it's open
<3> Open source, open zaurus, open advice
<3> :-P
<0> yeah, that's why I switched to linux so long ago
<0> that and the better quality and all the other stuff
<0> also Palladium;P
<0> I wonder if I could run OPIE's window manager on pocketworkstation...
<0> hmmm
<3> I'm not sure about that either... I suppose it might be possile
<3> possible**
<0> looks like pocketworkstation doesn't support 5600
<0> but there are qt3 libs in the x11 directory of the OpenZaurus feeds
<3> oh, try that
<3> doesn't support 5600??
<3> huh
<0> well it might
<0> but the procesosr is different arch I believe
<0> they're both ARM but diff models
<0> not sure if they're bit compatible
<3> on a side note, if you're looking to upgrade ever, Sharp will be stopping production of the Z soon
<0> I thought they already did
<0> I got mine off ebay
<3> it'll still be around for a while, but yeah
<0> I can see why. If you're a linux vet like me it's not so bad
<3> oh... well, they don't sell any in the US
<0> but if you jsut want a problems free pda...yeah
<3> the newer models, xx00 are available in the asian markets, but sharp is stopping production there too
<0> damn
<3> I'm not sure there is any such thing as a problem free pda
<0> lol
<0> my old Palm did what little it could do well
<0> I got a Zaurus for two things: PIM and LyX
<3> palm's are alright... sort of outdated now
<3> I got a zaurus becaue I like the idea of linux in my pocket
<0> heh that too
<3> :-D
<0> so I'm building LyX on my computer, how do I link against the Zaurus libs; just open the ipk archives with gzip and dump them somewhere and then specify the arch or isthere a more elegant way?
<3> www.openembedded.org
<3> that's how they build packages for OZ
<0> heeeeeeey
<0> thanks;)
<3> sure thing, I can't get what I want out of it working, but I'm sure other things will
<0> ? what do you mean?
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