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<0> nite
<1> anyone messed w/ TT's new phones?
<2> hm, what's wrong when "mount -a" mounts already mounted points again? ("/var" in this case)
<3> it shouldnt be able to without -o remount
<3> probably fails silently
<2> no it doesn't fail, it mounts it over the old mountpoint
<2> because it's tmpfs
<3> i'll have to try that
<2> busybox 1.01 here
<4> Are OpenSlug and OpenZaurus endian-compatible? I'd like to keep just a single package tree for both if possible.
<5> tmbinc org.oe.dreambox * rcee4d59c... / (1 packages/libungif/libungif_4.1.3.bb): libungif: compile without X11 support to fix bad includes
<5> tmbinc org.oe.dreambox * r19faa... / (1 packages/tuxbox/tuxbox-libs.bb): tuxbox-libs: add proper PACKAGES_DYNAMIC
<5> tmbinc org.oe.dreambox * rfc81d4b3... / (1 packages/initscripts/initscripts-opendreambox_1.0.bb): initscripts-opendreambox: install var.tar.gz into /etc
<5> tmbinc org.oe.dreambox * rd69a7ad4... / (1 packages/glib-2.0/glib-2.0_2.12.0.bb): glibc-2.0.12.0: fix SRC_URI
<5> tmbinc org.oe.dreambox * rbc758ce... / (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules: remove not anymore required script from SRC_URI
<5> tmbinc org.oe.dreambox * rae5dc6... / (1 conf/machine/dm600pvr.conf): dm600pvr: use binutils 2.15.91.0.2 which are available
<5> tmbinc org.oe.dreambox * raddb7b83... / (1 packages/enigma/enigma_cvs.bb): enigma: add proper PACKAGES_DYNAMIC
<5> tmbinc org.oe.dreambox * rb0f056d6... / (3 files in 3 dirs): initscripts-opendreambox: add dm600pvr support
<6> good morning all
<7> morning all
<8> hey RP
<9> morning RP and koen
<8> RP: wanna sign the petition to make days have 36 hours?
<8> hey lamikr
<7> koen: That would be useful :)
<9> Yes, and I am wondering why no-one is never teching anything usefull in the schoold or universities. Like soldering workshop for newbie ipaq hackers
<8> we have soldering workshops
<8> but then again, I do EE, not CS :)
<9> EE?
<8> lamikr: do you plan on attending FOSDEM next year?
<8> Electrical Engineering
<9> Yes I will
<8> cool
<7> I was thought of as odd at school as I did welding evening cl***es at the local college...
<9> Well, I am also more like mathematics and software, but http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/iPAQ-3600/ got me really excited
<9> That would be a nice practice before getting to real stuff (= trying to find jtag pins in h6300...)
<9> Good thing for the end of summer is that fosdem is some months nearer
<10> ~spitz
<10> ~husky
<11> hmm... spitz is the Sharp SL-C3000, or a dog
<11> it has been said that husky is Sharp Zaurus SL-C760 or a dog
<10> ~borzoi
<11> methinks borzoi is the Sharp SL-C3100, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/borzoi.htm )
<12> morning all
<10> ~3200
<10> ~terrier
<11> terrier is probably Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200, or a dog
<6> grrr
<6> my AP is disliking my switch
<13> morning guys
<14> good morning mickeyl
<13> darn, I'm a developer, not a bookkeeper!
<15> welcome to corporate life ;P
<13> *nod*
<15> the days i've spent dealing with the purchasing department...
<13> it's crazy. i'm just starting as a freelancer and i almost spent 2 weeks on buerocratic stuff now
<13> ibot: spell buerocratic
<11> possible spellings for buerocratic: bureaucratic bureaucrat bureaucratize bureaucrats bureaucrat's
<15> that's french for you ;)
<13> yea
<8> mickeyl: can bitbake print all PREFERRED_PROVIDERS?
<13> isn't bitbake -s doing that and more?
<8> for some reason bitbake trunk isn't allowing me to build diet-x11 as provider for virtual/libx11
<8> mickeyl: it isn't
<8> ah
<8> somethings overriding it
<8> ]WTF?
<8> NOTE: package pango-1.10.2-r0: task do_package: completedNOTE: package pango-1.10.2: completedNOTE: DBG: Active builds decreased to 2NOTE: package pango-1.14.0-r0: task do_install: completedNOTE: package pango-1.14.0: completed
<13> sounds like multithreaded bitbake
<8> it is
<8> and it's building 2 versions of pango
<13> that's not good
<16> morning
<8> ah
<8> PACKAGES_DYNAMIC strikes again
<5> koen org.oe.dev * rc601b... / (1 packages/pango/pango_1.14.0.bb): pango 1.14: add appropriate PACKAGES_DYNAMIC to stop bitbake trunk from building pango 1.10 to satisfy dependencies on pango-module-*
<17> hi all
<18> gmane.org again carries the OE-devel list.
<18> france: Could it be that bugzilla.handhelds.org is not sending out p***words? Have been waiting for mine for about two days. I requested it to be resent just about a minute ago but did not receive anything yet. I checked spam folder.
<18> ~seen france
<11> france is currently on #gpe #familiar #oe #opie #handhelds.org. Has said a total of messages. Is idling for h m s, last said: 'thank u :-D'.
<19> just re-installed OE database and monotone (back at college computer). Do I need to add key, or is it detected under ?home/.monotone/keys ?
<8> Laibsch: wrong channel
<8> Kristoffer: if you are using >0.25 it will be detected
<19> oki thx
<20> hi, I hope I'm in the right channel :). I was wanting to develop apps for openzaurus on my SL5500. I read through the wiki GettingStarted page, and I've got openembedded set up I think, but I'm not quite sure where to go from here. Can someone point me in the right direction?
<21> edit local.conf
<21> to include correct machine and distro
<21> then bitbake bootstrap-image
<20> ok, that's running now
<20> I'm guessing it's not as simple as just recompiling an existing app with a cross-compiler then?
<21> well
<21> did you check if the app you want to compile already has a bb file?
<21> basically, you need to write a bb file for the app
<20> well the app I want to compile doesn't exist yet, I'm going to write it
<21> if it is autoconf based, it is pretty easy
<21> use autotools, and it will be easy to make the bb file
<20> ok I can do that
<21> once you get the hang of it, it is easy
<21> getting the hang of it is the hard part
<20> that's always the way
<20> I did see an article on bb files in the wiki
<20> I'll have a read through that
<21> I just started by cpying bb files that worked :)
<21> I need to run now, but I am usually about weekdays
<20> thanks for your help
<21> your welcome
<21> good luck
<20> thanks :)
<5> koen org.oe.dev * rc3c34... / (1 packages/busybox/busybox_1.2.1.bb): busybox 1.2.1: replace mv with a non-gnu-ish cp
<22> hi all
<22> anyone an idea what I've to add to depends if I miss "qmutex.h" in stage?
<5> koen org.oe.dev * re3f453... / (1 packages/db/db-native_4.3.29.bb): db-native: make sure do_package() is empty
<12> koen : hi ! If you find some free time have a look at #1327 #1328 #1346 #1347
<7> koen: Is #1359 still valid now you found the problem with the pango.bb files?
<8> RP: yes
<8> RP: I can't think of a case where one would build two versions of a PN
<7> koen: Unless bitbake thought that was the only way to fulfil a set of dependencies...
<7> koen: I agree its not very obvious but the bitbake behaviour was right - we perhaps should wanr if we notice it happening?
<8> if bitbake thinks that it should halt and error out
<8> (in the OE case)
<8> and about all the 'file exists' stuff on the list: try a clean rebuild
<7> koen: I'm not sure about halt and error but warning would be nice...
<7> 'file exists' stuff on list?
<8> the busybox problem (among others)
<4> Is there a reason that cdrtools isn't in packages? There's a -native version. (Looking to see if there are issues with it before trying to make the bb file)
<8> not that I'm aware off
<8> try asking eFfeM-log when he gets back
<4> okey dokey. Thanks.
<4> Koen, did you just fix the busybox build issue with the mv errors? Like an hour ago? Thanks!
<8> RP: can we exclude RRECOMMENDS from the depgraph?
<7> koen: Which depgraph?
<8> the one which bitbake complains about circular deps
<8> 'bitbake xmms' if you want to know what I'm talking about
<7> The problem is debian.bbcl*** which needs to rewrite anything in a RRECOMMENDS
<7> (the same problem as RDEPENDS)
<8> *sigh*
<8> ~lart people complaining about bluetooth
<7> If I remove bitbake's rreccommends handling, we'll then have bug where rrecommends don't get rewritten by debian.bbcl*** under certain circumstances
<7> Basically, I can't win :-(
<8> actually you can
<8> by having a do_package_renaming task before do_package
<8> hmm
<8> that won't work anymore
<8> now we stage after packaging
<7> If we split packaging into two parts, we probably could get something to work
<8> I have code to enhance the pkgmaps
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