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<0> heh
<1> koen: ?
<0> http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/09/11/please-do-not-follow-pavel-machek-way/
<0> I also didn't comment on his LJ, thinking "some people don't want to learn"
<1> I comment on his LJ from time to time
<1> koen: but this post has too many infos to be lost somewhere
<0> I gave up after his "I installed debian for bash and gpsdrive" nonsense
<2> where is this collie-2.6?
<3> hrw|work: you in poland?
<1> mithro: yes
<1> chouimat: OpenZaurus 3.5.4.2-rc2 provide bootstrap image
<3> oo.. how long has apt-get had this functionality? "apt-get install --reinstall all-installed-packages"
<2> hrw|work: cool ...
<1> mithro: all-installed-packages == `cat lista-pakietow.text`
<3> o :P



<1> mithro: it can be done in one line too
<1> mithro: apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg -l|grep '^ii' | awk -F" " '{print $2}'` - but this will fail as some packages need to be configured before rest
<1> mithro: so lista-pakietow.text is better
<4> hrw|work: Its a nice sane reply :)
<5> RP: random question out of my mind: is there a way to time code execution down to cpu cycle with oprofile, reliably?
<4> psokolovsky: oprofile is a statisitical profiler - it doesn't log specific events. If you want specific events loot at lttng
<4> psokolovsky: oprofile will just tell you what percentage of CPU time was spent in a given function
<5> RP: well, I mean, p*** it a (short) code buffer to execute, it disables the interrupts and clocks it
<4> psokolovsky: Nothing does that
<4> psokolovsky: I'm not even sure why you'd want to do that
<5> RP: and would it be hard to do that? (I mean, is there existing interface which could be used for that?)
<4> psokolovsky: Yes, it would be hard, no existing interface
<5> RP: heh, just random thought on doing automated, genetic algorithm, peephoel optmization for ARM ;-))
<5> ok
<4> psokolovsky: You'd be better off writing an instuction analyser for the instruction set
<6> later
<5> RP: yes, that would be part of that. but i think fo full automation and cpu independence. well, just thoughts ;-)
<1> RP: thx
<7> MartinDietze org.oe.dev * rfcc6d1d... / (1 packages/nylon/simple-firewall.bb): simple-firewall: fix CVSDATE/SVNDATE confusion.
<7> MartinDietze org.oe.dev * rca57ebd... / (4 files in 3 dirs):
<7> libpcre: fixes resulting from renaming pcre->libpcre
<7> * the recipes in libpcre now contain the code from the removed pcre packages (sorry for the mess)
<7> * nylon-feed now DEPENDs on libpcre instead of pcre
<8> I have a question about the bb file hierarchy. I want to add a new machine to "org.openembedded.dev/packages/base-files/base-files", must I put that machine description under that dir? Or, can I put the bb file in my local tree and have it referenced?
<8> something like "zipitbbfiles/base-files/base-files/<my machine>"
<1> T0mW: yes
<8> or, would I have to copy the entire "org.openembedded.dev/packages/base-files" tree into my private tree?
<1> rather copy
<8> Ah, and, put the BBFILES entry for my tree as the first in the list of locations to scan?
<9> best off not relying on BBFILES order. use bitbake collections to ensure yours is the priority
<1> or use BBCOLECTIONS
<8> e.g.: BBFILES = "my_path org.openhardware.dev/path"
<8> thanks, I'll look into it.
<8> the copy is needed though, correct?
<8> "base-files_3.0.14.bb"
<8> O
<8> drat
<8> I'm just trying to keep from sprinkling my system definition around inside the org.openembedded.dev tree
<10> what not just add them to dev?
<11> Crofton: I'm just afraid that I'll do something stupid like delete that tree
<10> ah
<11> Crofton: also, I would like to make my bb files available for others to use.
<10> commit them to dev?
<8> Crofton: heh, yeah, I could do that too.
<10> If you would like, you could send them to me and I can commit them
<10> If you are worried abuot the mechanics
<8> well, I'm not worried about the method of the commit, I ***ume it is going to be similar to cvs/svn style of commit
<8> ?
<8> I think I will need a dev account, then what software? GIT?
<1> T0mW: monotone
<8> ah, good
<8> do I need a developer account?
<1> T0mW: show us patches, we will give you r/w (or not)
<1> T0mW: to be able to commit/push: yes. to use OE: no
<8> np, thanks, It will be sometime before I finish polishing my stuff before I would show it you. I will do that.
<8> I'm still on the slippery slope of the learning curve with OW
<8> s/OW/OE
<1> hmm 9h30m of burnK7 and home machine still works. 64.5C
<1> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND



<1> 6493 hrw 25 0 96 16 8 R 99.9 0.0 526:54.72 burnK7
<12> hrw|work: use prime95 for h/w testing
<1> CoreDump|afk: mprime is nice too - but does not force machine to such temp.
<9> there's still no easy way for one package to poke into the metadata of another, correct?
<12> actually it does, if you renice it to 0 =)
<13> hrw|work: http://handhelds.org/~florian/tosa/
<1> florian_kc: ok. will look at home
<13> hrw|work: many thanks
<1> florian_kc: can you add md5?
<13> hrw|work: done
<1> thx
<1> burnMMX failed..
<14> good afternoon folks
<1> hi chris144
<14> hi hrw|work
<12> hrw|work: are you testing for a stable O7o/c or are you just checking your home machine?
<1> CoreDump|afk: checking
<1> CoreDump|afk: this cpu can be nicely o/c anyway
<9> my x86_64 box hates me
<10> kergoth, why?
<9> if i boot without noapic, my rtc freaks out. if i boot with it, my sound card freaks out
<12> fwfw, burn* ran fine here for hours, but tripple mprime renice'd to 0 showed problems _really_ fast
<9> if i boot without one of acpi=off or noapic, the kernel aborts early saying the timer isnt connected to the apic or somesuch
<1> someone remember how to get returncode of app in bash?
<10> $? ?
<1> yep..
<1> ~lart me for &?
<14> folks, is there any chance to get a "named" account for the wiki? I'd love to contibute to the wiki, but as "anonymous" it doesnt look right to me...
<1> chris144: there is no way to register?
<10> kergoth, my x86_64 has a no_timer_check in the kernel args
<9> pretty sure i tried that already, but i'll try it again
<1> burnMMX gave 254 - integer/memory error
<14> hrw|work: not that I know, I asked koen some time ago when the new wiki was very fresh he said he dint figure out yet how to do the login stuff etc.
<1> chris144: realname, email please
<1> "This web page allows the administrators to register a new users by hand. Note that you cannot have a user where either the e-mail address or the username match another user in the system."
<1> chris144: I suggest realname to be 'name surname' instead of nickname
<14> hrw|work: Christopher Lang, christopher.lang@chl-informatik.de
<1> chris144: "P***word and further instructions have been e-mailed to the new user Christopher Lang."
<14> hrw|work: cool stuff. thanks!!
<14> :-)
<1> hmm. if burnMMX fails then it looks like memory problem. but memtest86 does not fail... will have to look more at ram then
<14> hrw|work: got the mail...
<1> ok
<1> cu
<9> Crofton: no luck, mine still freaks out :(
<9> says the 8254 timer isnt connected to the IO-APIC
<9> whatever that means, x86 is voodoo to me
<9> heh
<15> kergoth, you dont need sound anyway do you?
<9> hehe
<15> you could buy a cheap usb soundcard :)
<9> trying acpi=off apicpmtimer, so itll use the local apic timer instead of the PIT, maybe thatll help
<2> hi kergoth
<15> so i guess MS got tired of too many people refusing to upgrade to w2k/XP ?
<9> hey chouimat
<15> hearing funny things about the Opanki worm
<16> So, what's the current procedure to submit a new .bb file?
<17> RP: did you book yet?
<17> RP: (oedem hotel, that is)
<4> mickeyl: not yet, no. Any recommendations?
<17> RP: looks like there are two in direct vincinity (2km)
<17> 1.) Berliner Br
<17> 2.) Alt Tempelhof
<17> both 3 stars
<4> I think Tomas was thinking of 2)
<17> ok, cool, let's just settle on that, then we are three
<10> ?
<10> http://www.alt-tempelhof.com/ ?
<17> d'oh. nothing available
<4> mickeyl: :-(


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