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<0> hrw, there is a kdepimpi package in oe - i thought you were working on that one - too bad - i need it for sending email from my Z with smtp p***word auth
<1> poushag: kdepimpi/OE does not contain mail client
<0> as i understand it, hrw, the mail client part was disabled - but since nobody is fixing libetpan i thought i could edit the bb file or something to build ompi (aka kmail) - can you tell me anything to help?
<2> zecke, Crofton: I guess I **** too then
<1> ompi is not based on kmail
<1> ompi is ugly hacked opiemail
<0> but ompi works for sending email with smtp p***word auth - so its a good hack for my purposes - and my only choice apparently right now
<1> poushag: you can also extract proper part and implement it in opie-mail
<1> btw - I will be happy if someone will takeover kdepimpi maintaince
<0> hrw, please can you help guide me to do that? i will be happy to do so if i know what to do....
<3> poushag: if zautrix obeyed the GPL
<3> poushag: he marked the bits he changed with purpose and date
<3> poushag: just search for them, and forward port them
<1> poushag: zautrix hacked: libetpan, libmailwrapper, opie-mail (when it comes to ompi only)
<1> ~emulate zautrix
<4> this is exactly what the GPL is about. grab the stuff and run away



<3> that is not what the GPL is about!
<3> his behaviour is unethical, something rms didn't have in mind when creating the GPL
<3> I think my talk at aKademy will be empty
<3> I will bitch about KDAB anyway :}
<0> hahah - zecke, it sounds so easy when you say that - but at my stage of newness you might as well be posting in chinese - if one of you can spend some time to get me started i can carry on but its the steep learning curve in the beginning that i have to get over
<0> it sounds like zautrix is not well thought of around here - should i bother looking at his source? or is it already known to be too cryptic?
<5> hrm.
<3> poushag: take a look, it can't hurt
<5> to build with iwmmx optimization, what -march, -mcpu, -mtune should I be using?
<1> raduga: include tune-iwmmxt.conf in machine config
<1> hi cliff
<3> poushag: zautrix is weird. To add one line. He invents a new name, runs sed -i s/oldname/newname/ messes with the .pro file and releases his new version
<3> poushag: the time the sed takes, could have been used to send a patch :}
<5> ok. arch,cpu,tune = iwmmxt
<5> (thanks) :)
<1> poushag: I suggest fetching kdepimpi from cvs, then go back to moment when he forked opie-mail and start reviewing changes one by one
<1> ugly work
<1> speaking about opie-mail... it need OResource love...
<3> hrw: it is unbelievable how much work Opie needs
<3> hrw: I wish we would be six active devels :(
<1> zecke: heh
<0> zecke, hrw, i will try to do as you say - pls just promise me some help to get throught the rough patches
<3> poushag: sure
<3> Free Support in #OE for everyone :)
<6> hm
<6> sometimes a beer
<6> lol
<0> if i had to go it alone, there would be no way ('no way jose' as we like to say)
<0> thx :)
<3> woglinde: I always wanted to use the postcard license
<3> woglinde: I think I need to get a postcard licensed piece of software on the OLPC device
<1> woglinde: I like idea of being paid for oe work
<6> zecke should germany aplly for olpc?
<1> woglinde: sure - you are poor country
<3> woglinde: I think the OLPC is finished within a year and by then our government will have turned us into a development country
<3> woglinde: but to make the OLPC attractive for our youth one must be able to install ringtones
<1> zecke: no need for changable cases?
<7> hrw: Hi Marcin
<3> hrw: good thinking
<8> hi guys
<1> someone has cfxga card?
<9> Hi
<9> install -m 755 -s qemu-img "/home/oe/build_netbook-pro/staging/i686-linux/bin"
<9> | install: cannot run strip: No such file or directory
<9> am i the only one who gets this?
<1> zecke: thats not OResource... icons are 14x14 only
<3> anyway with enough bandwidth+disk to run some of the bittests?
<2> florian: no, I get that too
<1> zecke: my home machine is not stable enough for it ;(
<2> florian: I have just been going into the Makefiles and rmeoving the -s from the install calls
<3> hrw: how much do you need to for a new machine?
<3> hrw: I could donate some money and we could ask for some more for you?
<1> zecke: I would rather prefer to finally find what cause those unstability
<1> zecke: 40C inside of computer case worries me - plan to buy 120mm fan tomorrow to change it
<9> JustinP: strange thing...
<2> florian: I know
<10> Is there a public oe build server?
<1> ~nslookup forum.ocworkbench.com
<4> I can't find forum.ocworkbench.com in DNS
<2> mr_nice_slacker: .....you mean a server people could log into at will and build stuff on? no



<2> mr_nice_slacker: it would be a zoo...a madhouse....simply not feasable
<9> JustinP: editing the .mak included by the Makefiles does the trick, just remove all these parameters to strip.
<2> florian: perhaps a patch should be pushed for qemu
<10> JustinP: I thought more about a webinterface - but yes something like that.
<9> JustinP: in theory yes, but i wonder why this worked before..
<1> cu all
<9> hrw|gone: cu
<11> sleep well or have a nice day
<12> how would i go about disabling java? is there an equivalent of gentoo USE flags?
<12> been poking around but can't seem to find it.. :(
<3> furlongm: no equivalent yet
<3> nite guys
<12> hmmm, so how to disable java then? my gcc-cross build fails building java
<12> which i don't need anyway
<8> furlongm: you could use EXTRA_OECONF += " --disable-java " (or something like that) in the .bb file you want to remove java
<12> ah ok, so whatever the flag to configure is that i need
<8> yep
<12> and how do you use a higher version of a given package?
<12> ie higher than what is currently the stable version
<8> either the version exist in the tree and in this case, you should set the PREFERRED_VERSION in your distro conf file
<8> either the version does not exist in the tree and you could create the .bb file and submit it to the OE team to add it in the tree :)
<12> gotcha
<12> thanks :)
<8> np
<13> I think using ${PN} and ${PV} accomplishes that, just have to rename the bb.
<14> Are you talking to me?
<14> cinix?
<13> dtx_: oh hey, no I was responding to what cyril said. He appears to have quit, didn't notice.
<13> dtx_: did you get your virtual SDL line fixed?
<13> *sigh*
<14> I'm still here
<15> I'm still here
<13> I see
<15> Well, I set up the virtual sdl and I got everything to compile
<15> But it won't make the rootfs saying it can't find libsdl-x11
<15> ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for python-pygame:
<15> | libsdl-x11
<15> is the exact error
<2> dtx: RPROVIDE += "virtual/libsdl" perhaps?
<15> hmmm, let me try
<2> dtx: and make whatever is RDEPENDing on libsdl-x11 RDEPEND on virtual/libsdl instead
<15> ok
<15> Let me try it real quick
<2> dtx: or maybe you just need to rebuild whatever package has that dep
<13> I am having problems getting a meta file to put sdl on the rootfs too, and I'm pretty sure I did an rdepend
<2> cinix: did you rebuild the task/meta?
<2> cinix: if you just edit the RDEPEND in some file it won't auto-rebuild the task ipks
<13> JustinP: yea I -cclean before I ran built it again
<15> Collected errors:
<15> | Cannot find package virtual/libsdl.
<15> | Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update'
<15> | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for python-pygame:
<15> | virtual/libsdl
<15> Anybody have any ideas?
<2> dtx: perhaps I misunderstood. What sdl are you building and what does it RPROVIDE?
<9> wohoo!
<9> NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0: completed
<9> OZ for nbp :-)
<16> nbp?
<9> kergoth: netbook pro
<16> ah
<17> florian: I'd be very interested in that image :)
<17> but right now I'm interested in gettting some sleep
<17> 'night all
<9> okay, where do i get rid of this braindead kernel warning?
<9> i'm impressed... that's way faster than the old image
<18> justinp org.oe.dev * re54e2736... / (34 files in 4 dirs): efl, e17: update to newest versions, remove e as the src/lib dir seems to be gone
<18> justinp org.oe.dev * rd48f56ab... / (3 files in 3 dirs): esmart-fb: fix patch and build, bug #1261, thanks to Cyril Romain <c.romain at laposte.net>
<16> mtn 0.28 has cherrypicking? woot
<19> since when?
<19> i know its in 0.29


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