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<0> I'm building the kernel in a separate directory from the source, the build scripts ***uming this is not the case <0> include/asm-generic does not exist in the build directory, only the source <0> I suppose I can override kernel_do_stage, what do you think, does this make sense? <0> currently all it's references appear to be ***uming the copy will happen from the build directory, if I'm reading this right <1> cu <2> good morning all <3> hi koen <2> hey Jin^eLD <3> trying to get a MIPS based board to work in oe.dev.. turned out to be not an easy task :> <2> mipsel, mipseb? <3> mipsel <3> I talked to tmbinc and merged the glibc that is used in the dreambox branch into my dev tree <3> there's still some weirdness though, gcc 3.4.5 is needed co compile glibc-intermediate, but then for the rest gcc 4.1.1 is being used <3> anyway, lets see how far I get <4> Koen : I will be in your neighboorhoud in 2 weeks <2> gerwinin: cool
<2> you have my phonenumber :) <5> Jin^eLD : I have build images for the rb5xx boards <4> Koen: I have you seen likewise recently ? <2> last tuesday <4> Koen: I fixed my problem , some rotten memory module <5> koen : hi ! <2> hey Ifaistos <6> koen org.oe.dev * rd3de105f... / (1 packages/dates/dates_0.3.bb): dates: add 0.3 <3> Ifaistos: using oe.dev branch? <3> Ifaistos: what distro did you take as a starting point, which glibc/gcc versions did you use? <3> just setting the machine appropriately did not work for me, I could only cleanly build the dreambox branch for mipsel <7> http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1842 <--- anyone grab a look for me? <5> Jin^eLD : I have build my own distro, although it's using the 'old' OE stuff. check http://owmnr.digital-opsis.com <3> Ifaistos: thanks, I'll take a look <5> Jin^eLD : hopefully will get it up to speed withing the next millenium :) <3> I'd like to keep in touch with oe.dev though, thats why I am trying to merge stuff from dreambox <3> :) <5> Jin^eLD : my routerboard turned into a door-stopper had to return it to mtik <0> cbrake:fixed my problem by copying over include files from ${S} to ${B} before staging, thx for help <3> basically I got it to compile in .dev now, but I messed something up with threads, my system is panic'ing with "cannot set up thread-local storage", I guess it might be related to nptl stuff which dreambox glibc is configured for <8> natezg: dunno. OE is kind of like Ruby on Rails. If you do things the OE way, it is really easy. If not, well ... <3> Ifaistos: heh... <5> Jin^eLD : the mips cpu they are using has some 'locking' mechanism in the bootloader <8> natezg: no problem -- glad its working :-) <3> Ifaistos: I am trying to OE the DeCypher 8100 board <0> cbrake:well....built the new kernel now for testing :-O <5> Jin^eLD : are the new db boxes using this ? dm7020 or something ? <0> koen:FYI edb9302a board support is in the mainstream kernel as of the latest patch, thx for pointing me that way <3> Ifaistos: no idea.. I do not think so.. I only took the dreambox branch because zecke suggested to look at it - since dreambox is also some sort of mipsel based stuff <5> Jin^eLD : basicaly is ppc, mipsel is only one machine i think <3> ah.. I see <5> Jin^eLD : some ibm 405 variant with mpeg decoding <3> aha.. the 8100 has hidef decoders and stuff like that <5> Jin^eLD : it should :) These kind of cpu's would not be able to handle these kind of stuff.... <3> yep :) <5> Jin^eLD : even for voip,echo cancelation i am trying to use them anything below 600Mhz is a waste of time <3> heh.. well, my target app is video playback using the hw decoders, so that's ok I guess :> <3> my problem was that it just did not work in oe.dev, most people seem to work on ARM based stuff which is really well supported <5> Jin^eLD : do you have access to the specs of the decoder or do they give you a binary blob just as it was the case with dreambox <5> Jin^eLD : Yeah here almost everyone is ARMed to the teeth :) <3> there is some binary firmware image, I am not yet sure about controlling playback but there are some sources of demo apps provided <3> http://www.micronas.com/products/by_function/decypher_dhm8100a/product_information/index.html <5> Jin^eLD : mipsel should work without much trouble i think <3> the supplied SDK is difficult to work with though, based on RedHat 8 / RedHat 9 for building, uses old kernel, actually a release candidate that only compiles with gcc 3.3.4 and so on <3> Ifaistos: well I tried, mipsel did not work out of the box in current dev :) that was my first attempt <3> dreambox branch has some mipsel patches for glibc and uses a different glibc version <3> and for some reason they need gcc-cross-initial = "3.4.5" (I think else glibc is not building) and then use gcc-cross = "4.1.1" <5> Jin^eLD : meshcube is mipsel <5> Jin^eLD : mtx-1 <3> well, has anyone tried building it recently? :) <3> which distro does the mtx-1 use? <5> Jin^eLD : i think there were some updates pushed lately... <5> Jin^eLD : nylon <3> I tried building for a mipsel machine yesterday or wednesday or so, so pretty recently <3> nylon was my starting point, but it does not work <5> Jin^eLD : where is the problem ? glibc ? <3> I would have to retry to give a definite answer, also the nylon stuff uses quite old gcc versions and so on; after it did not work I was pointed to the dreambox branch which uses more recent stuff and builds <3> probably good idea to try again with original oe.dev things and see what exactly the problem was <3> I just wanted to have something working and tested, that's why I took dreambox <3> I don't feel confident hacking around the glibc :)
<5> Jin^eLD : sometimes you need to hunt around for patches on certain arch's... <5> Jin^eLD : btw are you sure the cpu is mipsel ? it says mips32 24KE.... <3> the supplied toolchain is: mipsel-linux-gnu/gcc-3.3.4-glibc-2.3.2 <3> moment phone <3> re <3> Ifaistos: hmm.. well how can I find that out for sure? <3> allthough I am pretty sure its mipsel.. <5> Jin^eLD : not sure... did they supply a pre-build toolchain ? <3> yes, the prebuild toolchain says mipsel-linux-gcc-3.3.4 (GCC) 3.3.4 <3> so I think its mipsel after lal <3> all <3> well. let's see if I can bring it up with glibc compiled from the dreambox branch... if I do I can investigate a little why oe.dev defaults did not work <5> Jin^eLD : have a look at the versions they are using i.e gcc,libc and try to build them using OE <5> Jin^eLD : also check what patches they are applying <3> Ifaistos: I tried to build gcc 3.3.4 in OE but it somehow failed, glibc 2.3.2 is quite old too.. <3> hmm, i only have the prebuilt toolchain, no idea about any patches they might have applied to glibc/gcc <3> I can probably ask for it <5> Jin^eLD : You can also use the pre-build toolchain with OE to build the rest <3> I know.. but I wanted to avoid that <5> Jin^eLD : not much fun though :) <3> not really :) well, I have to build the kernel using their gcc, it's the only one that works <3> but I really wanted to have the rest from OE <3> since it gets packaged nicely and so on <3> also the glibc <5> Jin^eLD : copying is the best form of flattery :) try to build the same stuff to gain experience on the architecture.... then you can try to get newer versions <3> well, I could not compile the same versions in OE, I did not investigate it further, it just did not build "out of the box" <3> but indeed, if my current attempt fails I will have to start over <5> Jin^eLD : mastering OE + a new arch is a big task... been there done that ;0 <3> :> <3> hmm crap, still the thread problem <3> I think I'll disable nptl :) <9> anyone thought about further breaking down the site files beyond arm-linux and endian and stuff? there are obviously a lot of tests which are just os speciifc, not architecture, adn vise versa <7> http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1842 <--- anyone grab a look for me? <10> I made a new espgs package <10> I'll post it in the bugtracker <10> I'm mostly sure it works <10> And an Exult package, but that needs some more testing <10> But I built an ipk allright <3> any ideas what "cannot set up thread-local storage: unknown error" could be? <3> is my glibc bad or is it just some misconfiguration of boot options? <3> ...still fighting with mipsel.. <2> kergoth: there should be a 'common' sitefile somewhere in OE <2> B_Lizzard: isn't 'S = "${WORKDIR}/espgs-${PV}"" a bit redundant? <10> Nope <10> Um, yes <10> Now that I think of it :) <10> It was in the last .bb file, I DON'T KNOW :D <2> B_Lizzard: have a look at the abiword 2.5 recipes on how to get rid of hardcoding 8.15 <10> Will do <10> By the way, exult requires the host CPU to run some binary it makes, how do I get past that? <2> with some goats, hemlock and a silver bullet <10> Aha <10> Damn, stores are closed <2> you're in luck, it's full moon tonight <10> My local satanist group are on a road trip <10> I'll ask Stan directly <10> I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT <10> And Abiword has something like that <10> Having to run some binaries <2> only a perl script <10> At least someone made a perl script <10> Normally, you'd have to run a binary <2> the abiword people changed it after I they attended my fosdem presentation that mention abiword being broken :) <2> s/I they/they/ <10> I've wasted weeks trying to build Abiword 1.0.7 <10> :) <10> Only to get cyclic "undefined reference" errors between wv and abiword <10> Bastards <10> Couldn't it just be cut down with "cut"? <10> Or does it HAVE to be in python? <11> B_Lizzard: libx11_X11R7.1-1.0.1.bb builds a binary that runs on the build host (manually, before executing oe_runmake) <10> Aha <10> I'll look into that <10> Why isn't FVWM in OE?
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