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<0> Hi, I am sitting here with external monitor output working on laptop but LCD is off *only* when using X (framebuffer console is fine)
<0> Any ideas why?
<0> I've been reading README text but theres nothing there...
<1> heyas all.. i got nvidia pcx5750 with crt + dvi outputs..how can i use both screens?
<2> yallaman: you would need to setup a twinview or dualhead serverlayout + appropriate screens in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
<2> yallaman: the README in the nvidia-glx package lists all the options, and there should be some samples in the links in the topic
<1> the readme....i installed via apt-get.. wherei is this readme located?
<2> usually somewhere like /usr/share/doc or /usr/doc
<2> ./nvidia-glx-something/README or README.gz
<2> I'm not a debian user so I can't say 100% where it will be on your system, but you can just pull it out of the nvidia instaler if you need it
<2> For a simple configuration, you are probably better off finding primer's sample configs
<2> they are documented enough that you should be able to just go from that
<0> I've got TwinView working... but whats it called when I have a copy of my screen?
<2> Twinview in "clone" mode?
<0> ahh thank you imperito
<0> thanks imperito. works.



<0> hi again...
<0> I have an LCD at 1280x800 and CRT at 1280x1024 ... if I am using "Clone", is there any way to get back the dead region on the right with the CRT?
<0> The readme says I should use panning, but is it not possible to just scale the screen?
<1> what is my second monitor? twinview requires that i provide vert/horiz refreshrate.. im guessing the monitor that is off..
<1> no info on monitor about vert/horiz refreshes either
<2> You can usually go to your monitor manual to see
<2> although I thought in recent versions it could use EDID for that, I know it does for dual screen
<2> last option would just be to choose arbitrary values, and then see the monitor complain, usually the "frequency out of range" popup will tell you the ranges
<2> although on really old hardware that can cause hardware problems
<2> most likely, if you are using the DVI port to connect to a flat panel, it has one mode that it really _wants_ to run at, so best to find that out an use it
<2> You can also use -logverbose N for large values of N (6 works well) on the Xorg command line, and the check the Xorg.0.log
<2> the nvidia driver has gotten pretty good about logging the modes part
<1> kk..i found some entry in the on-screen menu for the monitor saying: H:31.4 Khz V:69.7 Khz ...but it seems that i have to enter a range of refreshes..like: Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "31-82" and btw..the 2. screen is a crt with a dvi-to-crt adapter..connected at the dvi output
<2> Ah, well, that might be what its getting just then, or something, I dunno
<2> CRTs generally operate on a range of modes
<1> 31-35..gotta be safe i hope..:P
<2> well, too narrow and you are going to have trouble validating good modes
<2> the best way is to look into it, if you kept the little booklet that came with the monitor :)
<2> Or have xorg pull the EDID and copy that
<1> old monitor..no book for it:P
<1> ok..ill try that
<2> (I still think there was a way to use EDID on the second monitor in twinview, I dunno, I use the dual screen setup)
<1> ok..i got it working now..but.. the desktop is streched across both monitors..its a pain.hehe..2. monitor is on the wrong side too..any solution to this?
<3> yallaman: Option "TwinViewOrientation"
<1> my res is now 2048x768
<1> add that to device section?
<1> Option "TwinViewOrientation" ..under "device" section?
<1> # Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" this is also there..uncomment?
<3> Yes. See /usr/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/README.txt for more details.
<1> thanks for all help guys..now got twinview up and running...1 issue tho..the main monitor has a better resulotion..the other "older" monitor has a max of 1024x768..i dont mind this....but my bottom panel on the desktop isnt showing on the old monitor..its kinda far below it..any fix to this?
<4> 21:16:13 <Hoses-> sorry for bothering but do u ever play poker?
<1> bottom panel still far below screen.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16725 xorg.conf.. maybe any of you see if i have overlooked somthing?
<4> 21:16:53 <4> Ah, no, thanks. Good-bye.
<4> 21:17:08 <Hoses-> well maybe ull like my site www.dailyfreepoker.com
<4> Please kick him out.
<5> g nite
<6> I wonder if there's a way to use dual display, but force the mouse to remain on one
<6> since my other display is my TV and freevo, controlled via IR, runs on there
<6> that'd be interesting
<6> hello Erek
<7> Primer, hi
<7> life without structure is boring
<7> like no job
<6> get a job
<7> not enough time
<7> i return to school in august
<6> no SoC project?
<7> what's that mean?
<6> Summer of Code
<7> no
<7> i hate computer science/programming
<7> i only use it to get by
<7> like cracking 4Front OSS
<6> I thought that was free now
<7> it has a very annoying nag
<7> and it expires
<7> everytime you load the driver it will print character by character a long message
<7> instead of a string
<6> how gay
<8> A file listed in the Manifest could not be found: '/usr/portage/media-video/nvidia-settings/files/libXNVCtrl.a'
<8> eh?



<9> Hell-Razor, that's a gentoo issue.. ask in #gentoo
<9> i had the same problem... i just did ebuild /path/to/the.ebuild digest and it worked.. dunno what change it actually made to what was build hehe
<6> emerge -va --digest nvidia-settings
<9> that works too
<8> ty
<10> are there any opensource nvidia drivers?
<9> geckosenator, Xorg comes with some.. but only for 2d stuff AFAIK
<10> oh right
<10> well it would be nice to have 3d ones
<9> yeah.. im not too concerned about the binary drivers
<9> they work well for me
<10> but they are not open source
<9> no they arent
<10> which basically means I can't modify them appropriately
<9> that is correct
<10> :-(
<9> yeah, tis a shame
<10> I wonder if nvidia will ever change their mind
<9> who knows.. i hope so.. but it seems unlikely
<10> I am a bit annoyed at how graphics are implemented in linux
<10> for some reason people decided to implement all the drivers to work only in x
<10> instead all graphics drivers 2d and 3d should be for a generic framebuffer device that x can sit on top of
<7> Primer, what are you upto?
<6> *********ing
<8> lol
<8> didnt want to know that
<10> no
<11> gah new legacy driver locks up X
<10> new legacy?
<12> Primer, i thought you were married
<10> how is that making sence
<13> geckosenator: a new driver for legacy hardware
<6> I am
<12> Primer, you smoked pot before, right?
<10> Maligor: oh cool
<14> before I go and waste a big pile of time building up a xen workstation, do the nvidia drivers work fully in xen-dom0
<15> hello there. i have a problem with the nvidia driver 1.0.8762. i can only use the modes 1280x1024 and 1600x1200, even tho i have the following line in my xorg.conf:
<15> Modes "2048x1536" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768 800x600 640x480"
<15> some time ago (in an old nvidia version i guess) i could use many more
<15> now in many games i get huge black borders around the game itsemf if i go fullscreen with a resolution less than 1280x1024
<15> (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1024x768 800x600 640x480"; removing.
<15> why? :(
<15> hmm
<15> i think i might be the most stupid being in existence, hold on
<16> as in missing quotes?
<15> yes
<15> they are damn hard to see pink on dark blue
<16> i can imagine
<15> if this works now i demand that someone hits me
<15> brb
<15> hit me, please
<16> ;)
<15> hmm, trying to play novastorn in fullscreen still gives me black borders, tho... do you happen to know the resolution of 'normal' dos games?
<16> VGA? 320x200?
<15> ah ok, thanks
<15> playing novastorm now is so awesome :)
<15> but i'm drifting into offtopic
<17> agpgart: Aperture conflicts with PCI mapping. <--- does anybody know how I can fix this? Motherboard = MSI K8T Neo-V/ distro = SuSE 10.1/ kernel = 2.6.16.13-4
<18> herro
<17> hi
<16> hello
<17> you pifid me off
<16> ?
<16> for 7.1?
<19> i have a 6600 and while i boot the machine.. it doesn' t show up anything. even bios settings.. it seems the monitor detects no signal.. while the machine seems to boot up nicely, and i can still logged in remotly.. any clues.. any hope i could make this thing up and running once again ?
<20> perhaps your videocard died (or isn't in its agp / pci-express slot)
<20> when you do lspci, does it list a videocard?
<21> or perhaps you should set the bios to use agp as the primary vga adapter
<19> Thunderbird, sorry got an irc issue.. lspci showss it up.. but no more than this
<19> t_rex, i have used another old agp card i had.. which worked.. without any bios change
<19> sounds like more than a hundred quids on the go :-/ .. fan is running too.. in case someone cares :-/
<12> hi t_rex


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