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<0> I'm trying to use the TV out on my card and it seems to be limiting my monitors res to 1024x768
<1> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
<2> Currently, nothing works. If you're not a developer, you're not interested in this at all.
<1> wtf
<3> Primer, i overlooked that
<2> indeed
<3> so i figured out
<3> this is ridiculous
<3> apparently
<3> without using optimizations at all
<3> you will reach register starvation EASILY
<3> on x86
<3> so i couldn't compile ffmpeg w/ mmx
<3> because i didn't have any optimizations (even though i thought -mtune=pentium-m was enabling some for my chip)
<3> adding -O2 fixed it
<0> I'm trying to use the TV out on my card and it seems to be limiting my monitors res to 1024x768
<2> tv doesn't get much higher than that, man
<2> 4:3 NTSC TV is 640x480
<0> Right, I want the monitor higher, I dont care if the TV is limited to 1024 but if its also limiting my monitor then its useless.
<2> clone?
<0> not sure what you mean, but the TV is not a clone of the desktop. its on the right hand side, like the mouse goes off the right of the monitor and shows up on the TV
<2> ok, then use the "separate display" method
<0> where can I find out about this method?
<2> http://sh.nu/nvidia
<2> there's a conf example for that, the .nat one
<0> Ok I see that... what will I end up with when I use that one? how will I access the TV's display?
<2> the mouse will still be able to traverse to the other display, but you won't be able to drag windows from one to the other
<0> so how would I open a window on the other display?
<2> export DISPLAY=:0.1 yourfavoritwm
<2> presuming your wm doesn't already use the display, as some will
<0> ok I'll try to set it up now, its okay to reverse the tv and the monitor's 'device' sections?
<2> sure
<0> Primer: there are big sections of the file called 'TV as screen 0', monitor as screen 0, tv only and monitor only. do I delete all but the ones I want to use? I'm not sure I really understand this file. I though i had a good understanding of xorg.conf too. :S
<2> those are layouts
<2> startx -- layout "TV as screen 0"
<2> -layout, even
<2> common stuff, layout1, layout2, ..., layoutN
<0> if I only have a use for one layout can I delete the others?
<2> so yes, you may omit the layout you don't want, and it'll use whatever layout remains
<3> Primer, do you still use cedega?
<2> nope
<0> Primer: I used your .net config, slightly modified, but no dice. the tv gets no signal. from what I can gather from the logs it /should/ be workig.
<0> nat sorry
<0> Primer: heres the Xorg logs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18828 and here's my config slightly modified from yours: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18829
<0> can you offer any advice?
<4> hello, my en7900gt works great in 2.4.31,but in 2.6.17.4 console hangs after fb1 and start outputing "blue underlines" when I hit the space. looking for howto debug suggestions. tia
<5> hi
<5> I seem to recall there were devels from nvidia around here...
<5> do they plan on releasing a driver update for Xorg 7.1's new ABI at all?
<6> obviously
<6> but word is it will be a while
<3> zinx, what's going on
<4> Thanks for listening. Bye
<7> what is the best solution to support 3 monitors on one Linux system?
<7> I have three identical LCD's, one nvidia FX5200 AGP with DVI and VGA and one nvida FX5200 PCI with VGA
<7> I have tried using Xinerama but it's very slow and choppy
<6> Xinerama is the best solution.
<6> well, you could run multiple X servers if you don't care about moving windows between one
<7> yeah but really choppy
<7> Ultimately I would like three displays, each 1280x1024 and the ability to move screens between screens. Exactly lke Xinerama lets me do but without the very slow performance
<6> erh, s/multiple X servers/multiple displays/
<7> hmm
<7> I had that working but could not move apps between screens
<6> pdub: sorry. you can move windows between the two on the AGP card, without any sort of slowdowns, but adding the PCI card in to the mix isn't going to produce what you want
<2> get a parhelia
<2> 3 outputs
<3> lol
<2> it's not a very powerful card though
<7> who makes that
<2> Matrox
<3> matrox
<7> oh
<7> I have seen the matrox
<3> pdub, nice ramdacs
<3> probably decent tdms
<2> yeah, I'm sure it'd be great for 2D
<2> but not 3D so much
<7> I may have to pickup a Matrox
<7> dont need 3D
<3> sad
<3> the parhelia is so old
<3> matrox isn't the first page to come up on google
<2> perhaps there are 3 display capable nvidia cards
<7> Twinview works great but only supports 2 monitors
<7> I am trying to avoid using Windows to accomplish this
<3> pdub, ati?
<7> junior1, wont I still need xinerama?
<3> no idea :P
<7> hmm
<7> need to research Matrox
<3> matrox makes an external adapter for 3 heads
<8> oh this is for linux
<8> is there a windows nividia support channel?
<8> i have a question about ntune and fan speeds
<9> whups
<7> andkore you may want to try nvnews
<9> meant to connect to efnet
<8> ok
<10> I have some questions, but I don't quite know how to pose it.
<10> We are supporting a legacy system, originally developed on an SGI platform
<10> It now runs on older versions of Linux.
<2> lovely
<10> We're trying to migrate to modern h/w
<10> The system supports three monitors running OpenGL on nvidia cards.
<2> they likely have quadro cards
<10> Trying out various video boards and drivers and kernel versions we've run into some interesting problems.
<10> I think they are GForce cards, actually.
<10> We're trying to pinpoint where our problems are.
<10> an example of a problem is we get the displays to come up just fine, at least as far as the motif stuff goes.
<10> But all of the opengl windows are transparent.
<10> The application uses the performer API for opengl, from what I gather from the SGI site, they don't guarantee that it would
<10> run on any driver developed later than about 2002.
<10> I don't even know if performer is really the issue though.
<5> 06:01:57 < zinx> but word is it will be a while
<5> how horrible
<5> :/
<6> horrible how?
<6> do you really need bleeding edge software?
<5> how little importance nvidia gives to linux users
<6> do you really need the drivers to do render and xgl acceleration with said bleeding edge software?
<6> .....
<6> that isn't the issue at all.
<5> if it were a new windows' revision or something, the driver would have been out in a matter of hours at most
<5> and yet, it's been more than a month since Xorg 7.1
<10> I think it's more of a HW issue.
<6> new windows revisions don't come out every 3 months
<5> and still nothing... not even a beta for us to try
<5> zinx: Xorg's ABI isn't broken every week, either
<6> rvalles: actually....
<6> rvalles: it's broken pretty often.
<5> in the devel branch, maybe
<6> rvalles: XF86 broke it a few times, X.org 7.0 broke it, X.org 7.1 broke it..
<5> on releases, no. It has been release criteria up until now not to break it
<6> rvalles: and it's not as if the drivers don't work at all with X.org 7.1
<5> they deliveratelly broke it in 7.1 because it really was needed
<6> render accel is broken.
<5> not just render accel
<5> disabling render accel isn't enough
<6> *shrug*
<6> downgrade or wait
<5> there's still text that doesn't render
<5> everywhere...
<6> i somehow doubt you actually require X.org 7.1
<5> only gl works
<5> it's a matter of dependence hell in gentoo unstable
<5> downgrading would be a pain
<5> so what I'm doing now is run Xgl
<6> blame your distro :D
<5> but xgl has lotsa side effects...
<5> like, to play nwn or to watch movies (xv), I need to run a normal Xorg server
<2> xgl runs atop a normal X server
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