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<0> hello, is it a valid configuration to have two 2.6.x masquarading gateways being ipsec tunnel partners with each other? <0> it works when i turn masq off <1> http://www.valvehacks.zaccum.com/ - great cs dod hl2 (valve) hacks <2> can anyone point me to some docs of how to use the new 4th arg in ip_rcv() in ip.h? <3> gug <4> I am trying to deal with a specific setup, but due to some annoying limitations with the REDIRECT target (namely it can't be used past PREROUTING, I can't figure it out) <5> "gug <5> Ikarus, after PREROUTING, a decision has to be made where the packet will go <5> after that point it will be too late to do any suggestions (with REDIRECT) because the decision has already been made <5> why would you like to do REDIRECT somewhere else ? <4> xkr47: well, that is nice, but I need to do the following (let me C/P a few lines of description) <4> traffic incoming on eth0 with destination port 80 <4> if this traffic is outgoing on interface internet has to be REDIRECTed to localhost port 80 <4> if it is outgoing on interface dmz has to simply be routed <4> if the traffic is directed at the localhost (other then in the first case) it has to be rejected <5> in that case I would create rules like this
<5> for each localhost ip: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d $localhostip --dport 80 -j DROP <5> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp ! -d $dmznetwork --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 80 <5> or something <5> you can also use "ACCEPT" in the nat table to indicate that you want no NAT to be done <5> so the last line can be rewritten in two: <5> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d $dmznetwork --dport 80 -j ACCEPT <5> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 80 <5> I agree that it would be nice to have a chain that comes after routing where you could use the outgoing interface already <6> Hi all <7> hi chentschel, how are you? <6> hi gandalf! quite fine <6> just back from vacations. <7> chentschel: ah, nice <6> yes,. but short :( <6> and you what about u there!? <8> I guess Gandalf's just enjoying the usual mild winter in Sweden :) <8> greetings, BTW <7> chentschel: everythings fine here, maybe a bit cold sometimes, working like always (at an ISP) <7> hi Hidden <8> hi Gandalf_ <6> hi hidden! <7> chentschel: iirc you live in .ar, is that correct? <6> yes! <6> Argentina.. it's hot here!. now about 32 degrees. :S <7> argh, be quiet, it's <0 here :( <7> :) <6> :) <7> it's not the cold that starts to get annoying after a while during the winter, it's all the ice on the car in the morning that's annoying :) <8> :) <8> that's one of the problems I don't have -- not having a car has positive side effects sometimes :) <7> :) <6> jeje.. i agree <7> maybe we should have the next workshop far up in the north of sweden during winter... I wonder how long you can have a laptop outside without the crystals in the lcd display freezing... <8> I'd prefer summer :) <7> :) <6> jajaaj <7> heh, I only use it :) <6> hidden: why!? <8> because of all kinds of disgusting interoperability problems :) <6> with?! <8> and I'm starting to feel that there won't be a single SIP-related project without those problems <6> ahh but u mean sip-sip ? <8> yes, now we have a project where the SIP implementation of the softswitch looks quite interesting <8> they send Via headers without the 'branch' parameter <6> and what's the project about!? <8> installing SIP-capable firewalls for an organization <6> interesting. <6> and how's the sip capable solution!? <8> it's a plugin for Zorp, our firewall software <6> ahh i think we spoke about .. <6> big implementation, an ISP or so!? <8> unfortunately I'm not allowed to disclose that <8> but yes, it's quite big (although 'big' is relative) <7> probably bigger than the ISP I work for :) <8> how many subscribers do you have? <7> around 10k <8> that's not that small <7> mostly adsl <9> For me is quite big :>
<8> especially here, where the percentage of the population using the net is relatively low compared to western europe and especially scandinavia <8> an isp with 10k users is certainly considered medium size <7> the competition between ISPs here in .se is pretty intense <8> here the main problem is that 90% of the telephone lines is owned by a single company <7> they are always lowering the price and increasing the bandwidth <9> .pl have the same problem <9> or the same nightmare <7> same in sweden <7> one company owns all the copper wires used for telephones <8> and especially smaller ISPs are very vulnerable to policy changes of this telco giant <7> same problem here :) <7> we are fighting them every day <8> and the majority of the people here think that 25 euro a month is too much for having internet access <10> Gandalf_: your company is leasing copper wires from bigger telco , or have own wires? <8> but there are _no_ cheaper services <7> their technicans mess up the adsl install pretty often (rewiring in the telephone station in order to get the phoneline to go through our adsl equipment) <7> dflow: leasing the copper wires from the telco that owns all the telephone copper wires <8> experts say that internet usage would increase drastically if prices were around 10-15 euro per month <8> Gandalf_: not unusual at all :) <10> hehe <7> Hidden: and then we complain and their technicians look at it again and still don't find the fault, then our technician looks at it and find the problem in 2 minutes :) <8> :) <10> :) <8> oh, another funny thing here is switching over to a new ISP if you're using ADSL <8> this usually means a couple of weeks without internet access <8> because for some strange reason the the company owning the wires completely uninstalls the modem first <8> then after a few weeks they come back and re-install it <10> hehe <10> they want to both company pays installation fees <7> they did that here as well earlier <8> and this pretty much means that few people are thinking about changing their ISP, even if the new one would provide cheaper services <7> but now you can "move" an ADSL connection from one ISP to another with just a few minutes downtime <8> needless to say, the biggest ADSL-based ISP is owned by the telco company itself :) <7> just some rewiring in the telephone station <7> same here :) <10> yeah <7> or the telco is actually split into two companies, one that plays ISP and one that owns all the copper wires <7> but they go hand-in-hand most of the time <8> and a third one lobbying at the government :) <7> :) <10> in .pl the biggers telco have some crazy ideas for makeing money, they cut down bandwidth for other company if they are using abroad uplinks <8> sometimes I suspect this third one is the most dangerous :) <8> dflow: ? <10> Hidden: for example you are company A and you have connection to telia sonnera , (but not to tpsa), all traffic is comming back to tpsa via tranzit , bandwidth is produced by tpsa customers <10> they cut you down becouse you have external connection , and you don't pay them <10> and of course uplink to tpsa is very expensive , they have very high prices for connection biger >E1 <7> here in sweden it's the opposite, here we have to pay telia sonera in order to peer with them to avoid sending all traffic to them through transit (which is a little bit more expensive) :) <7> telia sonera is a strange beast (they are the big telco here) <8> :) <8> all big telcos are strange beasts <10> yes this is normal , most of the isp in .pl have local peering , to avoid sending traffic to tpsa <7> jk-: hi jeremy <11> hey Gandalf <8> gug jeremy <7> we peer with all other isps that want to peer with us (if it's a sane isp that is :) <11> hiya Hidden <10> strange indeed, strange and they are like the sleepy monster... <8> jk-: back from linux.conf.au? <11> Hidden: yerp, got back on Sunday <8> I've seen davem's pictures today, it must have been a spectacular event :) <7> jk-: how was lca? <11> Gandalf: awesome! <11> :) <11> had a great time, some really cool stuff happening at the moment. <11> esp. Van Jacobson's net channels :) <8> I've only read about those in davem's blog <8> are the slides for the talks available somewhere? <7> Hidden: davem has a link to the slides in his blog now <7> just saw the link <8> oh, it wasn't there a couple of hours ago <8> I'll check it <7> rusty looks weird without his moustache <8> indeed :)
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