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<0> i mean, how to use it... not how to program it... <1> oh please, there aren't any ****ing lawyers in here <2> kuja: Huh? ;) <1> so let's just not go there. <2> kuja: It's under the GPL as indicated by the various licenses and copyrights splattered everywhere <2> Commercial license text is not to my knowledge publically available <3> Therion: So the legal binding is indicated by what? <1> Therion, the dear boy is ban evading <1> he just PM'd me with contents after you kick-banned <3> Therion: I'm quite curious about the legal stuff. <2> Sneaky_Bastard: That's fine <1> just advising you <2> kuja: I have no idea what you mean byu "legal binding is indicated by what"...by the license text. ;) <2> If you need to test it, take it to court. <3> Therion: I know the policy page... is just a page, but it's the only source that officially states that you must obtain a license for closed source (distributed) software. <4> muhoo: there is a bit of information on this page: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/type-conversion.html
<1> kuja: you ain't no lawyer either <3> Therion: So there's license text released with MySQL that states it? <1> maybe you should shut up <2> kuja: The text of the GPL. <3> Therion: Ah, okay. <5> actually MySQL is using a backdoor of GPL. the spirit of GPL is that once GPLed, that's forever. now MySQL says if you buy a commercial license, the database isn't GPLed anymore <2> cookoo: You are mistaken. <3> Therion: That's more clear. I just wanted to make sure that the text is somewhere, and not missing. <2> The copyright holder can do whatever it wants. As MySQL is the copyright holder, it can choose to release a non-GPL version of the product, and does so. <2> Even RMS concurs that this is perfectly valid and logical. <1> yep <2> So, can we all shut the **** up on this ridiculously simple topic? <2> ;) <2> pr0n! <3> Was kind of complex at first lmao <2> It's simple <2> PRoduct is released under GPL <2> You obey the terms of that <5> OK, guess GPL 3 won't change much <3> Therion: You old man, lol. tsume was writing an GTK IRC client for me using my lib, unban!! T_T <2> If you don't want to obey the terms of it, you don't use it, or you get the comm. license <1> Therion: where is the MySQL function to index pr0n images by "nastiness" or "hotness" <1> ? <1> surely there must be one by now <1> I mean there is geo indexing, FFS ! <2> MATCH(image_description) AGAINST ('hot teen bitches') <6> is mysql5 faster than mysql4? <2> "it depends" <6> btw, I forgot my sense of humor in my other pants, can I still ask questions? <7> MySQL 5 does make better muffins however. <2> there are major optimizer improvements so under certain circumstances it is radically faster <2> OTOH triggers and such incurred an unavoidable performance hit <8> it is faster if you use stored procedures! <6> we never use triggers yet <2> does not matter <6> I saw the eweek graph showing mysql stomping all over sql2k <6> I'm ***uming that MS didn't optimize sql2k5 _that_ much over the last 3 years <2> The graph is largely crap <2> Though MySQL is generally faster than MSSQL <2> Except where it isn't :P <6> I don't think we really tax our dbs anyway <6> if it ends up being that slow, for the price of mssql enterprise, we can get 5 mysql servers <6> platinum support <2> :) <6> and oracle pricing is obscene, especially when you factor in the dba <2> You say that as if you only need one DBA <2> 99% of Oracle deployments i've seen had a whole fleet of them. ;) <6> a = administration :) <8> =) <6> does the OS factor a lot into the performance of mysql? <5> make non sense to compare Oracle and MySQL... <6> oracle is not needed here <2> frb: mmm Linux/Solaris are the most tested/deployed and generally have better performance for the type sof things MySQL does <9> could anyone tell me why i am getting a 1064 error from this <9> $sql = "SELECT * FROM ' . MEDALS_TABLE . ' <9> WHERE medal_id = $user[airmedal]"; <2> It works reasoanbly well on Windows though <3> Therion: You grumpy old man! <3> !kick Therion <3> That's right! pwned
<9> its giving me syntax but i;ve used it in so many other places <2> Lord_Loki: Print out the generated query, or examine the spot (to the left) where the message says the syntax error is located <2> kuja: can I go back to annoying my wife now, boss? ;) <3> Therion: No, you are MY wife. <3> :D <9> you mean this? near '' . MEDALS_TABLE . ' WHERE medal_id =' at line 1 <6> how is the commercial support? <2> Lord_Loki: echo $sql <3> bzzzz bzZzz <2> frb: best in the industry! <3> Go back to your wife! :P <2> frb: Responsive, high quality, attentive! <9> sec <6> Therion, you work there? :P <3> Keep in mind, Therion probably works for MySQL. <3> So don't trust him lol <3> He's just trying to get brownie points :D <2> ;) <6> I'm just trying to put together a case for our webdev upgrade <6> old = Win2k+IIS5+SQL2k+ASP3 <6> new can be anything we want <9> I am echoing , just getting the same general error debug mode etc etc <2> Lots of 64 bit Linux deployments these days <5> Therion: how's the progress of on-disk cluster in 5.1? <6> so I'm looking at WAMP, LAMP, and WINS (Win2k3, IIS6, .NET2, SQL2k5) <2> Lord_Loki: I want to see the query which is stored in $sql . <2> cookoo: code is there; haven't tested it <6> personally, I prefer LAMP out of principle, but .net does have some really good points <2> 5.1 has lots of yummy goodness <5> yumy yumy <7> IIS 6. <6> mono scares me, and it's only .net 1.1, I can use mysql with .net and the rest, but then we need either mysql on windows, or separately admined servers which may be a big downpoint <9> I must be a tard, its not echoing <2> Plenty of people using it on Windows <6> are there nifty gui tools like MS has? <2> Not as nifty as Enterprise Manager and Query Analyzer <6> I've grown really fond of the Query Analyzer and SQL Enterprise Manager <9> it shouldnt matter where i put the echo statement should it? <2> Unless you go with Toad or something other similar 3rd party tool <6> I only do basic stuff though, no profiling or anything <2> Lord_Loki: well you want it after you ahve constructed the query :) <9> right <6> I'd rather suggest we pay mysql to optimize our db anyway :) <2> hehe <10> ok so what i want (it may not exist, oh well) is a version of REPLACE() which takes a regexp <6> cheaper than a dba, and more experienced <10> REGEXP_REPLACE() basically <2> Perf tuning needs Platinum, or a consulting gig <6> I know <2> AND IT IS WORTH EVERY DOLLAR <10> i.e. i want to replace() all the [A-Za-z] with '' <6> $5k/year/server is still hella cheaper than $80k/dba/year <2> Help Leverage Your Existing eSomething <2> frb: That's arguable <11> My existing eWhat? <10> dba's make $80k/year? damn. <6> muhoo, the cheap ones <2> mhillyer: Was that your blog talking about Linden Labs' at UC? <11> I think so. <2> muhoo: I was making more than that as DBA in 2001, I hope its' at least similar today :P <6> in the early 2000s I saw oracle dbas entry level at $120 <2> mhillyer: Second Life thing :P I just glanced over and didn't catch who was talking about it <10> i've heard that all tech job salaries crashed around that time, and haven't recovered, probably never will <2> Depends on the area, the person, the company, the job <11> I'd be interested in seeing the session if I was not already speaking in that slot. <6> good dbas never really dropped in price <2> mhillyer: AHhh THAT'S it <6> programmers are a dime a dozen <10> yeah, in 2000, last time i worked, dba's were making $120+, and most of the ones i worked with had no ****ing clue what they were doing. <2> mhillyer: That's what made me think of you <2> mhillyer: as I have to skip your hierarchical talk to see it ;) <11> Oh you ****.
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