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<0> that's why I'm still trying to optimize things
<1> You're half employed?
<2> between full time work, and my own startup i are double employed
<0> stedios: we cannot know it
<0> groundup: part time
<2> stedios: it could be
<3> stedios: last time I had to do similar was on a different rdbms - something like SELECT * from FOO SELECT @@IDENTITY
<3> stedios ignore what i just said
<4> well, it returns '1' but it should be 18 or so.. $result=mysql_query($sql); echo $result; is what i'm doing
<2> mikere: the api says use last_insert_id or mysql_insert_id
<3> I made zero sense
<4> mikere: ok
<1> I don't know what is harder, being an Army recruiter or trying to find a programmer.
<2> stedios: that's giving you TRUE
<3> alphablue: yah, it also says you can use @@identity as a synonym as of some recent upgrade.
<2> mikere: ahh cool
<4> alphablue: figured, how do i get the id number
<1> alphablue: where have you been looking?
<2> stedious: $last_id = mysql_insert_id(); echo $last_id;
<2> groundup: DC/VA area and we have recruiters looking for us
<5> I need a Web graphic designer.
<0> groundup: you need to explain what the army must do and if the soldiers are capable to manage the mission
<5> Contender, Kill the bad guys
<2> will: i can recommend someone really good to you for that
<1> Contender: you lost me.
<5> alphablue, $?
<2> $50/hr
<0> will: sorry, I don't kill persons
<0> $50/h ????????
<0> lol
<5> alphablue, brb, going to get something to eat.
<2> contender: what's so funny ?
<5> Looking for simplestuff.
<2> ahh
<0> alphablue: it's really alot
<2> for him ? i don't think so
<2> i've worked with him on several projects over the past 1.5 yrs, he's really fast, dependable and just gets it the first time around. plus he's been doing it for 10yrs or so. so he's used to dealing with programmer types
<1> alphablue: what do you need people for?
<2> groundup: people who know php/mysql and some java
<1> I want a contractor, nothing FT.
<2> i'm a contractor, i used to be FT
<3> $50/hr is cheap for someone who's good.
<1> Considering that it shouldn't take more than an hour to come up with a simple web graphic, $50 is average.
<1> I would pay by the product, not the time. That is the normal way of paying someone for a 'commissioned' artwork.
<1> alphablue: on-site?
<2> groundup: the company i contract for is looking for some peeps.
<0> groundup: that's the best way to do business
<1> I know.
<2> i'm not, but they want the new guys to be on-site
<2> i kinda quit, and they told me i was invaluable, so they let me work from wherever :)
<1> All of this 'virtual office' **** is just that - ****. It ****s managing via the web.
<0> anyway if someone is interested into a freelancer I'm here :)
<3> Heh - anyone wanted me to code in a cube and they'd lose me
<2> so the onsite location is herndon, va i'm in san antonio, tx
<3> stedios: did you check http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/odbc-and-last-insert-id.html ?
<2> groundup: you have a req sheet or something ?
<1> mikere: person to person meetings are best. You can go off and do whatever you want after that. So long as you show production.
<2> yep, i travel to va once a month for a week just for that stuff
<1> alphablue: I have been looking inside of our little group and haven't come up with anything definite.
<2> i get my fill of heavy traffic, and then go back to tx
<2> groundup: php 4, 5 ? mysql 4 or 5 ?
<1> PHP 5, MySQL 5
<3> groundup: yeah, I understand what you are saying on that. Most progress can be done without - but there are a few stages where you want to meet people.
<2> heh those guys are really hard to find
<0> in the company where I'm actually working part time are searching for commercial figures
<2> i get called by a certain company in Cali once a week for php 5 and mysql 5
<1> alphablue: PHP & MySQL in general. I am looking for someone on the lower end of the market that I can mentor so I don't have to pay as much.
<2> contender: commercial figures ?
<2> like celebrity coders ?
<1> lol
<0> alphablue: sorry maybe I've used the wrong terms, my english is not really good
<3> groundup: heh if you were around here I could have suggested some very bright students
<2> you thought actors and actresses were prima donnas, the programmer who thinks he's the **** is the worst person to ever work with
<2> contender: ahh , what did you mean then ?
<0> alphablue: people that should care about the sales of the services and products
<1> My estimated budget is $5000 for this project. Not a lot for what I want, but I am obviously not looking for a 12 y/o or some stoner with no work ethic.
<2> contender: ahh ok sales staff
<1> mikere: where is here?
<0> groundup: can you please explain the project ?
<3> groundup The wilds of British Columbia (vancouver Island)
<1> Contender: www.boardnation.com
<2> heh you don't want canadians. all they do is smoke pot
<2> groundup: heh good thing we didn't talk.. we're competitors :)
<1> No, what I want is Indians or Mexicans.
<1> alphablue: ?
<3> haha
<1> Pakistanis are also feasible.
<2> www.boardserver.com
<2> :)
<0> uhm
<2> contender ?
<3> After all the free support I've given to programmers from India over the last 2 years I feel confident they won't supplant the good programmers in the US and Canada.
<2> groundup: i'm thinking of calling on my indian roots and establishing connections back home
<2> mikere: we already are
<6> I'
<2> i'm indian, and i'm replacing computer jobs of americans. but I also live in america, and charge american rates
<6> I've been feeling supplanted lately
<2> by silicone ?
<3> alphablue: and are becoming american too I suspect =)
<1> They don't have to be the best programmers. Reliable is the number one quality. There is a lot of repetition in programming. I need someone that can do that.
<3> repetition in programming should be automated.
<2> mikere: been here since 1991 , very much so. i spell poorly, and i forgot my manners, not to mention grammar
<2> i are american
<1> mikere: you can create a regular expression to do a lot of my work, but that might cause a lot of problems.
<1> I am definitely American. When you know you can do something yourself, but realize that someone in a third world country can do it for less than what you'd make working at McDonalds, you outsource.
<0> and sometimes regexp are not the best way to do things if you need speed
<1> The second biggest quality is someone that can optimize their code and has an excellent coding style. I can't stand ****ty code.
<3> groundup: as long as you can get a product with acceptable quality it's a given
<2> groundup: if you're interested in getting some indian people to outsource to, send me an email vid@phpcult.com, and i'll get you in touch with an acquantance of mine who has 3 people working for him at 1200/month
<1> *jaw drops*
<3> I'd take readable and maintainable code over optimized most days
<1> I'd prefer both.
<2> groundup: yea
<1> PHP isn't hard to do both. You can write the same thing 100 different ways, but one of those ways will be most readable.
<2> i prefer optimized if it's standardized and well documented
<2> otherwise, go for the readable
<0> optimized and secure should be at the first place
<1> With what I need, the only thing that will need to be optimized is queries and schema. In those cases, I would prefer if I wrote those.
<3> I wonder if India is a viable retirement destination
<1> I am sure the CAD will go a long way in most parts of India
<3> Arthur C Clarke retired to Sri Lanka.
<3> It must be late. I'm rambling
<2> mikere: if you have a few hundred k saved up, india is an awesome place to retire
<0> depends in which part of india
<2> 1 CAD = 37.04 CAD
<0> the same goes for the usa
<2> contender: price wise ? not really.. temperature wise..definitely.
<6> yes it is late
<3> alphablue: have a nice ocean view home fully payed for here + pension + rrsp (=401k in the US?)
<2> i would retire in the himalayas, Sikkim or Kalimpong
<2> mike: oh.. then stay there :)
<3> alphablue: yeah, but it rains 5 months of the year!
<6> g'night y'all
<3> night. blob!
<2> in vancouver ? oh..
<2> night boobyfield
<3> Vancouver Island - so close to Vancouver
<7> has anyone here got a copy of the new replication conflict resolution proposal referenced here: http://www.planetmysql.org/robin/?p=12
<2> then you don't want bombay/goa :) monsoons are bad
<2> not i, todo
<2> mikere: move to rajasthan, india .. you'll be the first to get attacked in case of a war with pakistan, but you'll also enjoy the dry desert :)
<7> multi-source replication sounds very interesting.
<2> actually, a lot of americans seem to dig Jaipur
<3> alphablue: thanks for the heads up. Perhaps I will at least visit there some day
<2> np. i prefer mountains etc, so i would recommend sikkim, as Nepal would not be a good place to be right now
<2> unless you're into getting yourself in danger and watching maoist rebels try to oust the king
<1> going to bed. night
<2> night
<2> todointx: multi-source = 1 slave multiple masters ?
<3> night
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