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<0> wait <0> xerxes1358: you are doing GoF now? <1> Yes <2> How can (-1s^11)/7 not be in its simplest form ?? <0> oh <0> okay, carry on <2> Hawkes Learning says it isn't simple enough..... <0> Defender: maybe just write it as -(1/7) s^11 <3> -(s^11)/7 <1> so that is 3t+4t^(1/2)+2 <1> ? <2> ok <0> Defender: yeah or like Meldon says <3> Defender they might want it in a specific form <3> like i showed <3> mymathlab for me requires that too
<0> xerxes1358: right <1> is it possible to further add 3t+4t^(1/2) <3> JohnFlux I forget how 3 Sqrt[t]^2 reduces to 3t <3> xerxes1358 yea <1> sqrt == ^(1/2) <1> Meldon, how <3> 4t^(1/2) = 4 Sqrt[t] <0> xerxes1358: you can't reduce that further <0> xerxes1358: you basically have a polynomial <3> but the latter is considered "simpler" <0> right <0> i prefer to write 4t <0> :P <0> but then the windows luddites can't read it <3> JohnFlux nvm i remember <3> JohnFlux i can <3> JohnFlux how do you type math expressions <1> ah if I cant further simplkify I must have typed something wrong to mbot <4> My brain doesn't feel like working so I'm having a little trouble with this problem I've come up with. Lets say you can make an investment in tomatoes whatever. It doesn't really matter. It costs n + 6/5x where n is the number of other investments currently and x is the number of tomatoes you invest in. You can only invest in multiples of 5. Every even 5 produces 12 dollars and every odd... <4> ...produces 13. So if you x is 10 then you will recieve 25 dollars back. Also if there are say 6 other investments and x is 10 then you will have to spend 18 on the investment. For a given x when will equilbrium be reached. When would making an investment not be worth the money. <3> 2 + 4 Sqrt[t] + 3t is simplest <3> xerxes1358 <4> That's the best way I've figured out how to put it so far. <3> unless you want to solve for t <1> Meldon, may I ask why you dont get out the sqrt ? <3> why would you want to <2> Well I have another very similar error. It says that (-1z^4)/3 is not in its simplest form. What am I doing wrong this time? <3> you could write 2 + 4*t^(1/2) + 3t <5> Defender: drop the 1 <2> ok <3> but doing anything else changes what that expression represents given any t <5> Defender: 1x is the same as x <3> yea so z^4/3 <6> except with a negative sign <3> yea sorry <3> -z^4/3 <3> they should have made there website with JLink mathematica <1> whats is JLink ? <3> allows Java to interface with a mathematica kernal on a computer/server <3> kernel <1> I see <3> you can program a java app to tell mathematica to solve something and return it <3> liek what im doing <3> but im not using JLink <3> im using MathLink (for apps) <7> anyone knows about graph drawing software? dot/graphviz is very good but i need to create an animated sequences of graphs which allows dinamical edge insertion/deletion <5> charlls: flash? :) <8> Ok - got another problem I'm stuck on <8> I'm supposed to calc the kinectic energy on this one <9> Hmm... <8> Ok - so an object weighing 10^9 smashed into some other object at 50 km/s <9> There's a set {{},{{}},{{{}}},{{{{}}}}...}, right? <10> iratsu: yep <10> ihope_: you just wrote it down :) <8> Ok - so the object is traveling at 50,000 m/sec <10> err <8> so - the energy released is .5 * m*** * Velocity^2 <8> So - ahh 1/2 * 10^9 * 50,0000 <8> Right? <8> the result is in joules <9> JabberWalkie: eh, I'll take that as a "yes".
<10> Cpudan80: sounds ok....but i fail to see how this is math <1> % inverse g(x)=2x+1 <11> xerxes1358: 1 + 2*x <9> And it's clearly infinite. <9> I'm thinking the whatchamie is omega. <8> I could toss it over to the physics channel I guess <10> ihope_: i dont know about that....mabey it ends and some point ;) <8> JabberWalkie: So - you think that's right (the answer is 2.5E13 joules)? <8> This damn computer <8> It gives you no clue as to wether or not your answer is right <8> or - ehh - close to right <10> Cpudan80: 1.25E18 <8> JabberWalkie: where did I screw up? <10> Cpudan80: you forgot to square the veloctity <8> I did? <10> yes <8> hmm <7> JohnFlux2, thats actually a good idea i wouldn't have thought... i'll search to see if there is some graph drawing stuff for flash <8> AH HA! <8> Thanks Jabber <10> np ;) <1> Is inverse g(x)=2x+1 correct syntax ? <10> looks ok <10> errr <10> wait <1> I get (manually) 1/2x-1/2 <10> you want g^-1(x) for the inverse of g(x) <1> I get (manually) 1/2(x)-(1/2) <1> Yes <1> g^-1 <1> JabberWalkie, I have to type g^-1(x) ? <1> like g^-1(x)=2x+1 ? <1> night all <8> Ok everybody - one more question <8> If a star collapses inward until it is 4 times smaller than it was originally (while losing no m***), how many times faster will its surface be moving? <8> Conservation of momentum says that it can't be lost <8> so - I say the speed has to up by a factor of 4 <12> hmm, cute question <8> But that isn't right <8> Thomas2_: lol <12> 4 times smaller by total volume? <8> That's the exact question <8> I ***ume so - conservation of m*** takes presedence here <3> -(Pi/6000) Sqrt[64 h] <12> right. if it's 4 times smaller by volume, I think the answer should be the cube root of 4 <3> How do I simplify that? <3> I forgot how to take 64 out. <12> 64 = 8^2 <3> Thomas2_ so how do you write it in terms of Sqrt[h] <12> Cpudan80: think about any given particle, and figure out how the radius of its orbit changes <12> Meldon: sqrt (a x b) = sqrt (a) x sqrt (b) <8> Well I mean <8> it's 4 times smaller - but it could be by like radius <8> so then it would just get heavier <12> no, I think the point is that its m*** doesn't change, but its volume does, no? <3> ok so -(Pi/6000) Sqrt[8] Sqrt[8 h] <12> erm, no, just move the 64 <3> well that is correct <8> Well this question has a follow up <12> you want sqrt [h] in your answer, no? <3> yes <8> If it was spinning around once every 100 hours initially, how long will it take to spin around after it collapses? <8> I say that it would take 25 hours <8> I mean think about it <8> If the sun did something nuts and became 1/4 of its size <8> and its m*** didnt change <8> I donno <8> this is a strange question <3> So -(Pi/6000) Sqrt[64] Sqrt[h] <3> How do I simplify -(Pi/6000) Sqrt[64]? <12> Cpudan80: sure. I think you need to distinguish between volume and diameter though <12> Meldon: do you know what sqrt[64] is? <3> 64^(1/2) <8> Well volume = 4/3 pi r^3 right?
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