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<0> http://cale.yi.org/autoshare/Screenshot-1.png -- might be rather slow, as my network connection is maxed out and slow to begin with. Only a few more days until we get a new connection put in though. :)
<1> Cale: is that thing near the bottom some fancy cellular automata thing?
<0> which thing?
<0> my pager?
<0> oh, the puzzle
<0> :)
<0> That's a Nurikabe puzzle
<2> Cale: is that a button for Quake 3 in the top left :)
<0> yes
<2> well done, well done
<3> Cale: it's raining where you reside?
<0> Manyfold: nope, mine is the 25C and sunny :)
<4> ..so many things from a single screenshot.. :P
<4> Cale: is this your guitar? :P
<4> heh
<0> thief_grr: no, that's a standard Gnome icon



<0> I think it's in /usr/share/pixmaps/large
<4> Cale: i was kidding..
<0> That's one thing I haven't yet bothered doing is installing all the album cover images on my music directories.
<4> yikes
<0> I wish Gnome had a more permanent way to set folder icons.
<0> I lost all the configuration there when I reinstalled with Ubuntu.
<4> for all a, b>0, 1+ab|a^2+b^2 implies (a^2+b^2)/1+ab is k^2 for some k
<4> dont like folders :P
<4> any hints anyone?
<3> why did you reinstall?
<5> http://xmouse.ithium.net/dmh-source/emacs-bad-glyph-rendering.jpg -- that's how poorly the glyphs show with my font
<3> and has anyone here tried gentoo ?
<5> Left hand side, about half way down
<4> Manyfold: i bet a lot of people..
<0> Manyfold: well, I'd been running debian for 5 years, and there was a lot of cruft that I wanted to get rid of all at once. Also, Ubuntu's default config was nicer than my current one :)
<0> (current at the time :)
<6> you probably could ahve copied the config stuff over if you knew which files
<0> _llll_: yeah, probably
<5> Copying configs over is often more painful than worth it unless it's automated
<5> And someone wrote the automation script other than myself. :)
<6> yes
<6> gnome makes it easy to set thigns up again anyway
<0> dmhouse: that's odd, the Greek letters and symbol characters are not antialiased
<4> never had probs with windowmaker and keeping-configs..
<7> Cale: i've got an array of expressions, but i'd like them to be functions of a common variable t
<7> actually a list and not an array
<0> Windowmaker doesn't have that much configuration data to keep though.
<7> Function[t,x] doesn't seem to work
<4> one of the reasons i like it :)
<0> Isn't it just a windowmanager anyway?
<4> yep
<8> mbot: 2^5000
<0> My windowmanager at the moment is probably more trivial than windowmaker.
<0> (I'm just using Metacity)
<5> > 2^5000
<8> % Solve[2^5000]
<9> 1412467032139426036835209667016147333668896175184541116813688085857118169842...
<9> chessguy: Solve[1412467032139426036835209667016147333668896175184541116813688085857118169842707512558089126316711526373356032084313660827642038380699793383359711857266399234310517778518653990118779996
<9> 45131707069373498212631323752553111215372844035950900535954860733418453405575566736801565587405464699640499050849699472357900905617571376618228216434213181520991556677126498651782204174061830939239176
<9> 86134138329401824022583869272559614700514424328107527562949533909381319896673563360632969102384245412583588865687313398128724098000883807366822180426443291089403078902021944057819848826733976823887227
<9> 99021574203072475705104238458688725967358918058187277964357530185180866413560128513025467268230092502183280182519073402454498631832656379878621985110463629854619495872811191399072280043859428809539588
<9> 16554567625296086916885774828934449941362416588675326940332561103664556982622206834474219811081872404929503481991376740379825998791411879802717583885498575115299471743469241117070230398103378615232793
<9> [3 @more lines]
<6> arrrgh
<4> chessguy: /help /msg
<10> chessguy--
<9> chessguy's karma lowered to 0.
<7> sorry ... X crashed :-(
<8> sorry, i thought it would give an abbreviated version
<4> chessguy: what's more abbr. than 2^5000?
<0> It was abbreviated :)
<3> http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k163/Manyfold/chaos.jpg <- windows looks nicer :)
<11> is there a free decent textbased calculator for linux/unix, like bc? bc is ok but it doesn't seem to work with irrational exponents.
<6> would mbot ever need to output lines?
<6> 6 lines, that was meant to say
<6> manyfold - ha ha, that is the ugliest desktop i ever saw
<3> _llll_: let's see yours :)
<6> am not at my comptuer right now
<0> Manyfold: change the theme for your controls
<0> :)
<3> Cale: how to do that?



<0> Manyfold: haven't a clue :)
<7> anyway, i have a list of expressions involving the variable "t" in Mathematica and I want to convert that list of expressions to a list of functions of this variable "t"
<6> it's the windoze xp fisher-price theme
<5> I have a whole two icons on my desktop. Firefox and Emacs.
<5> I get at my files through a shortcut I've set up in KHotKeys: Win+F
<5> And start a terminal with F4.
<5> Things like Kopete and Amarok live permanently in the system tray. I don't really use anything else.
<0> Manyfold: does windows have a feature where you can hover over a music file to hear it yet?
<0> or multiple desktops?
<3> no
<5> I couldn't live without multiple desktops
<5> It's like moving from IE to a tabbed browser.
<0> I think last time I saw a windows desktop it at least had image previews as icons, so that's something.
<0> I also can't live without point-to-focus
<6> windows just isnt quite ready for the desktop imo
<0> _llll_: yeah :)
<12> Windows has point to focus if you get its Power Tools or whatever.
<5> Cale: does it point-to-focus if you point at the desktop?
<0> Olathe: yeah, I remember that thing, but there was something funky about it such that it never quite worked correctly
<0> dmhouse: no, it's sloppy focus
<0> Olathe: but yeah, it was definitely something to turn on
<4> i think there are multi-desktop addons for windows not sure though
<4> and since this went into a miss-screenshot, mine's cuter http://zermelo.sians.org/shot.jpg :P
<0> yeah, it's a trivial feature to implement (at least if you don't care how well it's implemented)
<4> like remote controls though, once you get used to it cant work without it ;)
<0> oh interesting, you use mplayer to play music? I suppose that works :)
<4> soo.. no hints on that number theory problem.., anyone
<4> Cale: never liked anything else ;)
<0> xmms works decently. I'd use beep, but there's a single annoying bug which I'm waiting to become fixed :)
<0> really, all I need is a drag and drop target for directories :)
<4> dont like my mouse a lot :P
<4> woohoo advertising at the same time, didnt notice that :)
<0> advertising?
<6> quod libet is the fashionable thing to use
<5> I couldn't stand xmms's UI.
<4> Cale: the track's playing on the shot's mine ;)
<5> I had to toggle the switch that doubled the size of everything, even then it was ugly.
<0> aha
<6> dmhouse: i agree completely
<13> what's inverse of 2*n ?
<0> glen_quagmire: what kind of inverse?
<3> is the sequence (-1)^n also called divergent?
<0> Manyfold: yes
<6> inverse for which operation?
<14> Cale: isn't it periodic?
<4> Manyfold: depends on the writer
<0> ihope: that too
<13> n/2
<0> A sequence is said to diverge if it doesn't converge.
<4> depends on the writter.. some call divergent if -> +/- oo and the one in (-1)^n is calle dfinitely oscillating..
<3> quote from a text : It is also worth noting that the sequence does not diverge either. Then p would
<3> increase beyond all bounds and tend towards +co or -03.
<15> i need to "xor each byte in a string with the equivalent modulo byte in the 2nd string" how would i do that ?
<0> but something might not oscillate or converge
<4> Cale: finitely oscillating, infinitely oscillating, convergent, divergent is one cl***ification..
<0> thief_grr: what's the distinction between finitely and infinitely oscillating?
<0> (btw, I've never heard this convention used)
<6> what about a_n -->infty, b_n-->-infty and then set c_n=a_n if n even, and b_n otehrwise
<12> ChrOnX : That means to XOR the first two bytes, the second two bytes, etc. If you run out of bytes in the second string, wrap around to the beginning of it.
<4> Cale: it's kinda old, hardy uses it
<6> i dot see how you copuld call c_n "oscillating" with a straight face
<4> Cale: 1,0,1,0,... is finit. osc, while 1,0,2,0 is inf. osc.
<4> _llll_: thats inf. osc. ;)
<0> That's a silly convention :)
<6> hmm, oh then a-n-->A>0 and b_n-->C <0
<6> or add a third sequence converging to somewhere else
<4> sounds better than the more modern one to me.. *shrug*
<0> Or how about a sequence in R which has no cluster points, but which also doesn't tend to + or - infinity?
<0> actually, llll's example was one of those
<4> yes
<0> (probably)
<0> actually, certainly :)
<0> http://cale.yi.org/autoshare/Screenshot-2.png


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