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<0> i thought harming the software industry bore a positive connotation
<1> Yes, that's why those who don't want to harm the software industry must pay.
<2> GPL harms the software industry if you ask me :P
<0> pjb, how does that help preventing harming it? quite the contrary, i guess...
<1> If you don't like GPL, I can sell you my software with a nice Microsoft like license, but this will cost you money.
<0> oh
<0> this can be a metaphysical question
<0> what is the balance of harm than good in this model
<0> s/than/and/
<3> Lenolium: for a pane you can draw on with no output recording, subcl*** basic-gadget, implement the handle repaint method, and if you really want to avoid flicker you can use climi::with-double-buffering
<4> luis: Do I need to define load-directory in each package?
<5> Hey folks, is the owner of http://paste.lisp.org/ around? :)
<6> hello
<7> hefner, Thanks. I'll give that a try.
<1> Hello!
<6> pjb gug
<4> _deepfire: OK, try lispbuilder-image from SVN now.
<4> It should fix the image path problem in common-lisp-controller, I hope.
<8> spiaggia: around?
<9> is there a current summary of thread support for common lisp on darwin/x86? I've tried googling but was wondering if someone could point me to something up to date and definitive ("sbcl: no, ask again in a month; openmcl: no; clisp: no; blah: no" or similar would be good)
<10> archaelus: There's Bordeaux-Threads ... but that will probably be merging with the (as yet unimplemented) SSC in a while.
<10> http://common-lisp.net/project/bordeaux-threads/
<10> With a matrix that lists _some_ of the platform support for threads.
<9> ok, so sbcl 0.9.13+ has threads on darwin/x86? for some value of threads?
<10> Yep.
<10> Thanks to slyrus.
<11> archaelus: working on CL again?
<11> luis: yes
<12> luis pasted "metaphone implementation for dyslexia" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/23180
<8> spiaggia: I thought you'd be interested in this :)
<9> spiaggia: yeah, I want to get my client/server tiddlywiki project going again. Web frameworks for common lisp are a lot more advanced than the erlang ones
<9> plus there's a whole lot of neat common lisp libraries I'd like to try (montezuma, rucksack etc)
<11> luis: did you do that? What is metaphone?
<11> archaelus: good luck!
<8> spiaggia: Well, it's a way to enconde english phonetically so that you can make suggestions for misspelt words based on how they sound. It's one of the things that aspell and its descendents do.
<13> hi luis.
<8> hello yain
<11> luis: looks interesting!
<8> Next step is the Levenshtein thing.
<11> luis: I guess that could be applied to the phonetic encoding as well
<8> spiaggia: from what I've read that would probably generate bogus suggestions
<8> But it's something we should try.
<11> yeah, I guess Levenshtein distance is more adapted to typos and such.
<8> Oh well, I'll get back to dyslexia sometime soon. I have other stuff to do now. :/
<14> good evening
<15> morning
<16> has anyone made a "Lisp Inside" logo
<17> http://www.hypermeta.com/ has a great big "Powered by Lisp" logo
<1> yes.
<18> and is done in comic sans
<19> rofl
<20> morning
<14> good morning mvilleneuve
<20> hello beach, how are you?
<14> fine, preparing to return
<20> not too sad about leaving NZ?
<14> a bit, sure.
<1> So, was it worthwhile? Have you made a radical discovery?
<14> pjb: time will tell
<20> I guess paperwork was less boring there, at least... :)
<14> much
<21> good morning
<22> Does anyone ever get that annoying feeling where you really really wanna code something but you just can't think of what to write? :(
<22> It's bugging me a lot - I really wanna write something but I have nothing to write.
<1> write an AI
<22> I would love to but I don't know if I'm good enough at LISP yet. That's another thing..I feel so limited when it comes to LISP <_<
<10> Lisp.
<22> But I read all the time..so much reading and no writing
<22> Oh well
<1> Yawgmoth7: doesn't matter. You'll become more proficient at writing lisp, writing more lisp.
<22> Yeah
<22> Well I guess I could try a simple AI.
<23> just don't put a chain-gun on it
<14> mvilleneuve: I recommend the paper by Tomita
<12> wwk3492 annotated #10119 with "10119" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/10119#1
<20> beach: are you talking about his "efficient parsing for natural language" book?
<14> mvilleneuve: that is the long version of a paper that has a similar title, I would think.
<20> beach: that's good (the book is pretty expensive). Do you know if the paper is available on the Internet?
<14> mvilleneuve: An Efficient Augmented-Context-Free Parsing Algorithm
<14> mvilleneuve: it is
<14> 16 pages, very easy to read
<24> has anyone read the book "Paradigms of Artificial Intelligence Programming"?
<14> kotrin: yes
<20> kotrin: yes, a very good book
<24> good to hear...i will purchase it tomorrow...or later today if you will
<20> beach: found the paper, thanks
<25> mvilleneuve: can you spare others a link?
<20> jdz: http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/588758.html
<25> thanks
<22> Doesn't tea have caffine in it?
<22> oops
<22> caffeine*
<24> i dont believe so
<24> eat an apple
<22> Apple's have caffeine?
<26> It does have some
<24> apple's help you stay awake
<12> loproc pasted "frameprob" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/23182
<22> Adrinael, apple's or tea?
<26> Tea, some caffeine =)
<22> kotrin, too bad I don't have some apple's
<22> score! Mom made some iced tea earlier and I found it in the fridge
<0> tea does have caffeine, and iirc natural tea has more caffeine more than natural coffee
<14> Yawgmoth7: it does. Type "tea caffeine" to Google and follow some of the links
<22> I doubt Lipton tea is natural :D
<22> beach, sure. I'm doin' anything to kill some time until I think of something to do.
<22> I should just go sleep since I'm going surfing tomorrow
<22> But I haven't written any lisp or been on the computer much for over two weeks so I wanna get something done ;P
<24> apple's are still a better stimulant than tea
<24> but sense you don't have an apple...drink away!
<22> kotrin, sure thing!
<0> well, apples divert blood from brain to stomach, by activating bovel motion/stimulating stomach activity
<0> and at some point you get full
<23> and it may cause problems in people unused to eating healthy food
<24> yeah
<24> you can get some good acidic build ups
<24> thats fun fun times
<0> same problem with sugared coffee
<27> Heh, the number one Google hit for "CFFI" is http://www.www.www.www.www.www.remove.these.four.words.common-lisp.net/project/cffi/, which works. (Go wildcard DNS entries!)
<27> But I want to know who linked to it like that. :)
<28> !
<28> it doesn't seem to know
<14> Yawgmoth7: did you look at the "suggested projects" page on Cliki?
<29> "apples"
<22> beach, don't think I noticed anything like that
<14> that should give you plenty of things to do
<14> hello Xof
<22> Cool thanks
<29> morning
<30> welcome to #foodstuff, Xof
<14> hello rudi, how are things?
<30> splendid; I'm learning a tiny bit of Prolog atm
<29> rudi: you might be interested in a side project of my colleague's
<30> Jon?
<24> anyone do much work with cl-irc?
<14> rudi: that's always useful. No Lisp hacking?
<29> who took my clim tutorial from ecoop, joined it together with climacs and paiprolog, and has a clim prolog shell :-)
<29> not Jon, no, Marcus Pearce
<14> kotrin: it is used in Beirc that some of use use.
<30> Xof: cool
<14> s/use/us/
<25> beach: it's funny -- my brain did the substitution on its own for me :)
<30> beach: nothing of interest in the last month, lisp-wise
<14> jdz: so did my fingers :)
<14> rudi: :(
<14> Yawgmoth7: some of the project descriptions are outdated. Check here before taking anything on.
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