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<0> my imac has arrived <0> unfortunately, I'm at work now <1> "The types RATIONAL and FLOAT are disjoint subtypes of REAL." --clhs. But it does not say that they are an exhaustive partitioning of REAL. So does this mean there are/could be REAL that are neither RATIONAL or FLOAT? <1> s/or/nor/ <2> rr--: there could be, yes <1> in current cmucl/sbcl, is there <2> no <3> for what it's worth, it looks like the issue was one line left over from an uninstalled package, left in /etc/ldap/ldap.conf : TLS_CACERTDIR/var/lib/ultrapossum/tls # after commenting-out that line, then slapd can run <3> SSL certificate management could be another thing to clean up in a new os, fwiw <4> eek, ldap <3> yeah, it's used by the gforge setup. funny thing is, though, the gforge setup populates the ldap directory on an sql database <3> finally, finally got one broken package fixed <0> lichtblau: ((-: <0> eekdap (: <3> now this is funny: Gforge base DN is knotes_4%3a3.5.3-2_i386.deb knotes_4%3a3.5.3-3_i386.deb notification-daemon_0.3.4-4+b1_i386.deb under the existing server base DN -- fail
<0> using ldapvi makes it the lichtblau directory access protocol (: <0> ntpd problems? (: <2> does anyone remember what the variable in clsql that needs to be changed from its default setting is? <5> Is it reasonable to use (ldb (byte 4 27) #b1011000000000000000000000000000) to get the 4 highest bits of a 32-bit number? <2> I think that's what ldb is for, yes <5> Thanks. <6> I'm trying to get the following code running with sbcl http://www.norvig.com/paip/clos.lisp <6> (the last part with define-cl***) <6> the first thing is that sbcl says it couldn't expand the macro (define-cl***) because make-clause is missing. <6> I could fix it <6> with swapping the macro and the function definition <6> But now SBCL can't find a rest2 function (in make-clause) <6> there is symbol called rest2 but it is not a function and it is not in hyperspec <2> you know that there's quite a lot of support code in the PAIP tarball? <2> (there are one or two things that need to be fixed in it, like defining functions called IGNORE and SYMBOL, but it's straightforward to make it work) <7> kingruedi: rest2 is probably a utility function Norvig wrote that drops the first two elements of a list. <8> rydis, memo from michaelw: you mentioned pools when I was looking for fast resizable arrays. do you have any pointers for them? <6> oh, ok <6> ok, actually it is obvious if you look at the code (d'oh) <9> hi all, I'm trying to get cl-opengl examples running on sbcl 0.9.14 with cffi 0.9.1 but I'm getting (SB-KERNEL::UNDEFINED-ALIEN-FUNCTION-ERROR)s...anyone with ideas on how to resolve this? <2> load whatever shared library you haven't yet loaded <9> would this be a lisp library or the alien C library ? <2> the alien C library <9> alright... thanks, I'll have to look up how to do that with cffi then... <10> minion, logs? <8> logs: #lisp logs are available at http://meme.b9.com/ (searchable,customizable filtering & highlighting); http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/ (text); and http://tunes.org/~coreyr/ (prettified version of ~nef) <10> tom_elam, did you get it set up? <11> kire, <11> which? <11> you're talking about trac, right? <10> your clnet login <11> no, i've been in a meeting all day... ;-) <11> i will try a bit later. thanks. <10> ok, you should be able to decrypt that message I sent you and see all info you need there. if it doesn't work, let me know. <11> i need to eat something now, then have a phone call... <11> thanks! <11> kire, what about trac? can i get access to that? <10> tom_elam, yes just decrypt and read that message. <11> will do. i will try it right now. should only take a minute, i guess. <12> Xach: around? <11> kire, I am using KGpg and it seemed to have died some time ago. now I can't find my private key in its database. i will try to figure out where the key is. <10> ok <11> kire, kgpg is acting strangely: every kgpg process i start exits but it looks like abnormal exits: the init process (pid 1) is taking ownership. <11> these processes are exiting immediately. <10> tom_elam, i've never used kgpg so i wouldn't know. why not just use gpg? <11> kire, i will try, but first i need to find my key. <10> are you sure it doesn't store it in the same database as gpg? <11> i would bet it does. where would that be? <10> try gpg --list-keys <10> probably ~/.gnupg/ <11> yes, it's there. <5> Doing "(defvar *aaa* (make-array 1 :element-type '(integer 0 31))) (setf (aref *aaa* 0) 222)" I get this error: "The value 222 is not of type (UNSIGNED-BYTE 7)". Is something wrong with the element-type I used? <7> z0d: Yes, (integer 0 31) is integers between 0 and 31, inclusive. 222 isn't such an integer. <5> Oh. Thank you. Somehow I thought it's the number of bits. Silly me. <13> z0d: that's (unsigned-byte 32) <5> Thank you. <11> kire, ok, i got the message decrypted. thanks. <11> kire, need to make my phone call now... <11> nick tom_elam-away
<14> voidengineer: hi <15> Anyone with Climacs loaded who'd attempt something for me? <15> Just start Climacs and press yank (C-y) with an empty kill ring. <16> RFFi pasted "C (client) <-=socket=-> Lisp (server)" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/23082 <17> Hi! There is a new scene in the net ftp://all:q1w2e3@netherworld.is-a-geek.net:5000 if you like it, please consider uploading any related and relevant material. No porno, no movies, no musics! 100GB purely educational! <18> one hour before the end of the ICFP. <19> in ASDF, how do i specify that file A may only be compiled if file B is loaded? <5> :depends-on <19> i tried using in-order-to but it has no effect <5> (defsystem #:foo :depends-on (#:bar) ...) <0> yay, new imac! <20> announced or you got? <19> z0d, so should the two files be in separate defsystems? <0> JKnecht: one I got (: <19> z0d, that would be irritating, as there's 15 files with dependencies on each other <19> using defsys, i had :uses-definitions-from and that worked fine <21> wilm: have you read http://common-lisp.net/~mmommer/asdf-howto.shtml ? <21> wilm: "A more complex example" looks similar to what you are saying <10> wilm, you could use :serial t <19> sqweek, that's what i have.. compiling the files is done in the correct order, but it want asdf to _load_ each file immediately after that <21> alright, sorry for the distraction <21> i'm new at lisp, and was just linking together two things that sounded similar <19> thanks anyway :-) <10> wilm, how do you call asdf:oos? <19> (asdf:operate 'asdf:compile-op 'clpython) <19> or load-op <19> in both cases it goes wrong <19> :depends-on seems not to imply "load" <10> perhaps i don't understand. i have a system x with file a and b where file b depends on functions defined in file a. i have (:file "b" :depends-on ("a")) and that works fine. is that your situation except it doesn't work? <22> how can I ensure that certain slots in a cl*** are of a certain type? <19> i have metacl***es and stuff, so a must be loaded before b is compiled <7> beef: check-type/***ert when ***igning them. The :type option to slot definitions isn't guaranteed to be checked. <22> good to know <7> (I'm fairly certain there are other ways, too, that I don't think of, right now, such as writing methods for ***ignment that are specialized on the wanted type, and one specialized on t that errors.) <22> I'm creating make-xxx constructors anyway <7> Oh, you're writing a porn-site generator? ;) <23> Hey... there's an idea. <23> Could probably make quite a bit of money with an automatic porn-site generator... <7> nyef: There was a porn search engine that was running under CMUCL; I don't remember the name, though. <7> booble.com, it seems. <23> That'd be the one. <10> it uses cmucl? ***y <24> I guess that porn doesn't have too many lexemes in it :) <25> ha ha <20> wonder what web server booble.com uses (w lisp)? <0> it's a porn site. pound. <22> lol <22> dammit at work, can't check it out ;) <22> probably mod_lisp or something similar <20> they definitely use Apache and errant URL on the main site don <20> 't annouse a lisp server. <20> s/annouse/announce/ <7> <meta name="generator" content="cmucl-19a cl-html-template EMs Pg module and emacs" /> is about all I know. <20> yeah, that doesn't imply anything about the HTTP server. Seems to be a Edi Weitz pkg (HTML-TEMPLATE). <5> Is there a way to specify the endianness when reading from a stream? <26> unfortunately not <24> :external-format might <27> z0d: this is implementation specific. In clisp, you can choose between charset:utf-16le or charset:utf-16be for example. <24> but only for character streams <5> I'm reading numbers <27> An implementation could interpret these parameters: :external-type (unsigned-byte 16) :external-format :little-endian <27> clisp always use little endian for numbers. <27> You can easily swap them, or just use bytes and build the numbers yourself. <27> (to stay portable) <28> How similar is emacs lisp to common lisp, and would learning emacs lisp help with learning common lisp? <27> cn28h: if your purpose is to write common lisp programs, why shouldn't you learn directly common lisp? <28> pjb, well, I found a great doc on emacs lisp, which I wouldn't mind learning also :) <5> cn28h: there are great books for CL too <5> , pclbook <20> cn28h: not much and not really. <28> ahh, okay <27> supperficially, they're close (both lisp-2), but since native emacs lisp lacks lexical scope and closures, one could argue that scheme is closer to cl than emacs is. <5> minion: tell cn28h about pcl-book <28> can you guys recommend a good book for CL then?
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