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<0> Hrm...
<0> ... GPF again.
<0> Ah. hairy-data-vector-ref.
<1> wow, I've just spent an hour trying to play a network game of doom.
<1> basically, every doom port is broken.
<0> You mean your effort was doomed from the start?
<1> huhuhu, yes/
<1> prboom, zdoom, zdaemon, all utterly broken
<2> prboom works on my /zaurus/
<3> my doom works very well
<3> let me find out which one it is
<0> It's the virus one ,remember? ^_-
<4> <offtopic>bah, what a crappy world championship. is it me or were the last matches all won or lost through penalties?
<3> oh wait nm
<3> I was thinking quake



<5> antifuchs: I don't care, as long as Portugal wins...
<4> luis: hah
<4> luis: I want to see germany lose in the finals. (:
<3> antifuchs I'll kill you!
<4> what? because it means italy must go? small price (:
<5> antifuchs: I'd rather see a Germany vs. Portugal than Italy vs. Portugal in the final. I think Italy is a very tough team for Portugal.
<5> tougher than Germany.
<4> voidengineer: oh, it's because it means germany has to lose (:
<4> voidengineer: get over it. it's bound to happen sooner or later
<4> (:
<3> germany MUST win!
<3> or else I kill you all! Hahahahahahaha
<4> hey, I activated godwin's law (:
<4> </offtopic> (:
<3> lol
<3> </offtopic> http://home.comcast.net/~marks-man1/guidos.jpg
<3> hahaha
<4> tee hee
<0> Heh.
<5> wth?
<0> Hrm... There are still a few bugs in my display driver... :-/
<3> can emails have a ' in them like o'connor@foobarbaz.com ?
<6> nyef: did you get d-x sap args to work?
<3> bah wtf is wrong with me today
<3> nm
<0> nfroyd: Nope.
<4> voidengineer: you may find http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5132393607458883973 funny. the two commentors are pretty famous comedians in .at (:
<0> So I just split the underlying integer into 16-bit pieces and p***ed them.
<7> voidengineer: At a guess, yes, if you can get it to the recipient, and it accepts it. (I don't think it was illegal in RFC 822, perhaps in 2822.)
<6> nyef: bummer
<8> ' is used as a quote character, something like 'Peter BARAAS' <foo@bar>
<3> damn, I need to get flash working on this machine
<4> you do. (:
<7> z0d: That's an oversimplification, at least of 822.
<3> I just don't remember how I had it workin on linux+firefox before
<7> (2822 restricts addresses a lot more, IIRC.)
<7> For instance, the way my address is written when I post, "rydis (Martin Rydstr|m) @CD.Chalmers.SE", is legal in 822, but not in 2822, I've been told. :)
<5> yay, Italy scores
<4> voidengineer: you can download the video, too (:
<4> har
<4> semi-finals is as good as any, of course
<8> I use http://search.cpan.org/dist/Email-Valid/lib/Email/Valid.pm to test
<4> haha. screams of joy on the street (:
<7> z0d: Checking it out.
<8> I don't know whether it tests against 2822 though
<3> cool
<7> z0d: Gawd. It uses a 100-line regexp to check whether an address is valid.
<8> rydis: yup
<0> ... Isn't that regexp famous?
<8> nyef: It is
<7> I'm /not/ going to trust that. :)
<8> rydis: Paranoid android you are <-:
<7> Would /you/ trust anyone who uses a 100-line regexp in "production" code?
<8> I trust the code, not its author.
<7> z0d: OK. Does it say that "rydis (Martin Rydstr|m) @CD.Chalmers.SE" is a valid address or not?
<7> (It claims to do 822, not 2822.)
<8> Let me see.
<4> rydis: and 822 is the authoritative standard with regards to smtp.
<0> What's 2822 authoritative with regards to?



<7> antifuchs: I thought it was 2822, these days.
<4> rydis: afaik, 822 is still the std and 2822 isn't
<4> that may have changed in the past year or so. let me see
<7> Good, then I'm not in breach of standards. :)
<8> rydis: Valid according to the module
<7> z0d: Good. Then I'll think about spending some time coming up with a bang-path, %-bounced, tunneled-through-bitnet address. ;)
<8> I used _@mydomain as my e-mail address. Most spambots didn't recognize it as an e-mail address
<7> z0d: I'm sure a lot of web-registration pages didn't accept it either. :)
<4> rydis: if I'm reading that right, 822 is STD10, but is obsoleted by 2822; but 2822 isn't STD10 yet.
<8> Silly mutt rewrites "_ (PB) @foo" to "PB <_@foo>"
<7> z0d: sendmail would rewrite it, anyway, probably. :)
<7> antifuchs: OK. Thanks for the research. I'm not sure what that means, though.
<8> rydis: Indeed :-(
<8> These boring, overzealous MTAs
<0> ... Like trying to start a line with "from"?
<8> Like rewriting addresses
<9> evening, #lisp. does anybody use the SERIES package?
<10> kreuter: I always planned to, but never actually get around to do it :)
<3> holy ****. An OpenVMS system on an alpha box has been running without reboot for over 10 years!!!
<9> I'm trying it out now. seems somehow nifty, but maybe that's just novely.
<9> novelty*.
<7> kreuter: I'm pretty much in the same position as blitz.
<11> Isn't exceptional stability the hallmark of VMS?
<12> voidengineer, im sure FreeBSD could also do this
<10> voidengineer: most systems can run for 10 years, if they don't do much :)
<13> Yeah, I have series in our system at work, but haven't actually used it yet :)
<9> I see.
<3> Google warned on Tuesday it will not hesitate to file anti-trust complaints in the United States if high-speed Internet providers abuse the market power they could receive from U.S. legislators.
<13> blitz_: Yeah, unless they have an uptime counter that overflows after about 6 weeks ;)
<8> also note the exceptional power supply
<9> I'm confused. does the VMS machine have a Common Lisp on it? if not, um, who cares?
<3> yeah, power would need to be solid
<11> mc__: For 10+ years of uptime, I think the hardware would also need to be exceptional. Does FreeBSD run on any super-stable hardware - and did it 10 years ago? :)
<3> Athas thank you!
<3> yeah, the alpha was and is still such a king
<12> Athas, well than lets take NetBSD,i think i ran on alpha 10 years ago
<7> kreuter: There has been CL implementations (from DEC) for VMS in the past, at least. Dunno if they ran on OpenVMS without some magic translation stuff, though.
<7> NIL might run, too. ;)
<3> yeah DEC did lisp work
<10> an old version of clisp ran on VMS if I am not mistaken
<9> ah. very well then. please continue.
<12> are there any cl icq libs? didnt find anythin on cliki
<14> please don't
<15> lhz pasted "splice, use what instead ?" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/22074
<16> i've made my own splice, but there must exist something better ?
<7> mc: Not that I'm aware of. ICQ seemed to use UDP, when I looked at it, and there is very little portable support for ICQ. Would using one of the Jabber libs and talking through a Jabber->ICQ bridge work?
<7> mc: Most jabber servers have bridges to ICQ and MSN, it seems.
<12> rydis, ill try that
<2> hoboy, I got a spam-request mail, too!
<7> lhz: Is that some sort of destructuring-bind you're doing there?
<16> yes, multiple-value-setq, but for lists
<7> Does (destructuring-bind (a b c &rest ignore) (list 1 2 3 4)) do what you want?
<5> kreuter: heh, kmr's mailserver doesn't like you
<9> I know.
<9> actually, is it me, or gmail?
<9> gmane*
<5> you/gmane :)
<16> rydis, it will do, maybe how do I declare (a b c) ?
<7> lhz: I don't understand that question.
<16> a b c, is already defined by let, and also (declare (a b c float)) something
<17> whoa! this channel is *huge*!
<0> No it isn't. There are much larger channels out there.
<7> You don't need to let-bind a, b, and c if you destructuring-bind them. (destructuring-bind (a b c . junk) (some-fun-returning-a-list-of-three-floats) (declare (ignore junk) (float a b c)) ...).
<17> I was actually expecting a tiny channel devoted to Lisp.
<17> I'm quite plesently surprised!
<4> har. lots of us are AIs that broke through to consciousness
<11> Lisp is dead, remember, we're all just corpses.
<11> Corpses can't /part.
<7> lhz: Does that answer your question?
<2> doctorshim - alas, this channel is largely devoted to Common Lisp
<16> rydis: yes thanks, i'm trying it out in sbcl
<17> ayrnieu: What's bad about Common Lisp?


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