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<0> the main file is here: http://hg.stiq.it/index.cgi/infinite/?f=197ec30cd915;file=reactor.lisp;style=gitweb and the function for which I need this array is do-write and write-data
<1> clhs 3.4.2
<2> http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/03_db.htm
<3> hi... i have separated my program into separate files, and use (load "file.lisp") to access them
<3> but this doesn't seem right
<3> for one thing, multiple inclusions of the same file lead to errors
<4> a common solution is to use ASDF to create a definition of the relationships between your files
<4> then there is an asdf function to compile and load everything in the proper order.
<4> many, many lisp libraries written in the past several years have .asd files
<3> :o
<3> thanks for the tip!
<4> i tend to
<4> make an .asd file whenever my project grows to two files
<5> Hell, I write my asd before I write any code ... where else am I going to put my unit tests ;)
<6> is (dribble) supposed to work with SLIME?
<3> how's this asdf system related to makefiles?
<3> do they accomplish approximately same kinds of things, and is one better than the other?
<7> Yes, yes and yes.
<0> I have another problem now... unfortunately subseq returns a simple-array instead of an array which is a different type than what is stored in the cl*** at the beginning and breaks the code after subseq is called once
<8> use replace
<0> now... I thought of using make-string-output-stream but it is for strings and not for unsigned-bytes
<8> or (setf subseq)
<0> jsnell: ok let's say I write (replace buffer buffer :start1 0 :start2 last-sent) will the new buffer contain just what is inside buffer from start2 onwards? it seems to me that the answer is no
<8> (decf (fill-pointer buffer) last-sent)
<0> uh right
<7> otherwise, the behavior of replace is perfectly specified in CLHS...
<0> it works now :) thanks
<0> I just need to discover my next bug
<9> Hmm, anybody used ltk with sbcl?
<10> so is there a package alive that installs in clisp with asdf without barfing
<7> sohail: most of them.
<10> really
<10> not been my experience :(
<10> i must be doing it wrong
<10> like latest was mcclim
<7> McCLIM doesn't work on clisp because it needs threads, IIRC.
<7> That's why I've not used any McCLIM application yet.
<10> ah
<10> so what clim do you use on clisp then?
<7> None. I've tried Garnet, it works well, but since then I didn't have a need for GUI...
<7> Otherwise, Ltk seems to work too.
<7> The advantage of Ltk is that you get native GUI on the various platform, thanks to TclTk.
<8> my understading is that mcclim should work with clisp
<10> native UI on linux is quite unfortunate
<10> oh im sure it might work... but it barfs
<10> brb
<8> the issue used to be the lack of a mop, but that shouldn't be a problem anymore
<11> btw. how can i detect a window resize done by the window manager in (mc)clim? i d like to scale the content of my application pane when the user change the size of the window.
<7> matley: I know nothing of McClim, but there must be a X event sent to the application. Check how you can catch these X events.
<12> clim handle-repaint
<2> http://bauhh.dyndns.org:8000/clim-spec/8-4.html#_429
<12> no, that's not it, but this is
<12> clim window-configuration-event
<2> http://bauhh.dyndns.org:8000/clim-spec/8-2.html#_369
<13> I just was thinking of something that might be cool
<13> regarding TIME
<13> I think there would be a great benifit if TIME did a few different things
<13> it would be system specific how it's implemented
<13> anywho
<13> what would be nice is if TIME were a generic function
<13> that did two things normally
<13> had a print method that did what sbcl does right now when one uses time
<13> and
<13> also returned an object with slot values using the values in the print method
<13> then you could write statistics gathering data easily
<13> without writing a parser
<14> You could have it display the statistics in a READable way.
<13> adeht, indeed
<15> chkno pasted "Best way to uffi 128-bit integers?" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/25289
<7> chkno: why don't you cffi instead?
<14> voidengineer: Well, what prevents you from writing that :)
<13> I could always look
<13> PAIP is keeping me very busy lately
<13> read read read
<16> Why are Lisp programmers referred to as "Lisp hackers?"
<17> pjb: Because I didn't know about it. Checking it out now. Thanks.
<7> No problem, it's relatively new.
<18> Cin: programmers are often referred to as hackers
<7> Cin: you nearly have to be a hacker to program in lisp.
<16> mrMister, I thought it might be something to do Lisp being the "programmable programming language."
<7> knowing lisp is the first step to become a hacker.
<16> pjb, hehe.
<18> Cin: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
<19> god
<19> don't link to that crappy site
<13> haha
<13> here we go
<19> esr = lame
<19> where is brx when you need him?
<19> HACKER [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] n. 1. A person who enjoys learning the details of programming systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. 2. One who programs enthusiastically, or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. 3. A person capable of appreciating hack value (q.v.). 4. A person
<19> who is good at programming quickly. Not everything a hacker produces is a hack. 5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; example: "A SAIL hacker". (Definitions 1 to 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.) 6. A malicious or inquisitive meddler who tries to discover information by poking around. Hence "p***word hacker", "network hacker".
<19> from the REAL hackers dictionary :P
<16> Who's BRX?
<19> that guy over there
<16> srsly
<19> brx: wake up
<16> (defun foo (n) (lambda (i) (incf n i))) ; Can someone please explain
<16> Oh right.
<16> foo returns a function that increments n by i
<3> eww, the jargon file :<
<19> see
<3> udolpho had a nice rebuttal of it, http://www.udolpho.com/weblog/?id=00712&title=Why-you-should-never-listen-to-geeks-and-in-fact-should-despise-them
<19> heh
<10> ah crap
<10> the 15 year old clothes
<10> i'm coming up on 8
<7> If only I could find clothes that lasted 15 years!
<10> well its only my jeans
<10> theres a guy at work tho that totally fits this
<10> he comes to work with shirts with holes in the armpits
<10> and then he lifts up his arms
<7> t-shirts are particularly weak there.
<10> yes
<10> i couldnt imagine walking out of the house with a ripped T
<10> unless i was ***y
<10> which i can't imagine either, but...
<7> Why isn't he telecomuting?
<10> my company is old school
<10> computers are evil
<10> except we're a software company
<19> cholesky: that guy seems worse than esr :P
<10> i'll be telecommuting some point soon i hope
<3> mbishop, worse in what aspect?
<19> His holier-than-thou attitude
<10> i noticed at some point i developed this holier than thou attitude when i wrote a compiler for work, then i stopped
<3> well, as they say, when you hate someone, you really only hate yourself
<19> probably, he seems really bitter
<19> some nerd probably made fun of him, and he's been crushed ever since
<10> yeah
<10> but really, the holier than thou attitude is annoying
<19> yeah
<19> lots of religious people tend to have a holier-than-thou attitude
<19> "I've found Jesus, I'm way better!"
<20> They sure do :/
<10> sorry religion isnt allowed to exist anymore
<7> This udolpho character, he sounds just like another xahlee...
<7> "In the early 80s, I think my junior high school had all of two computers, and access to them was fiercely contested in between copying out our D&D character sheets in study hall. I think the only thing I learned from them was how to play Oregon Trail, a game of random encounters that had the same educational value as dodging traffic. In high school, I and my cl***mates learned to touch type on manual typewriters and later IBM S
<7> electrics, and the computer science cl*** even had a few PETs and one Amiga that no one was really allowed to use. " No wonder he doesn't like or understand geeks...
<19> pjb: you're such a geeker!
<10> yo oregon trail was awesome
<19> yeah anyone that doesn't lik oregon trail is clearly demented
<20> ...
<10> you better not be joking
<10> that was a wicked waste of time
<19> pfft
<19> oregon trail was the shiznite
<19> Course it could just be the fact I was like, 8 when I played it
<10> yep
<10> that and lemonade stand
<21> hmm, what exactly does: (mp::startup-idle-and-top-level-loops) do on cmucl?
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