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<0> Did NASA decide whether or not to hire seven more astronauts?
<1> I didn't realize the caltrain 10-ride p*** was only good for four hours, so now I ride all the way to work (15 miles)
<1> oh, and I don't think I would ever buy a new bike.. there are plenty of used ones to be had from the people ready to get the next shiny model
<2> 4 hours?!
<1> yeah, I almost got fined $280 for it too
<2> they do a 10 ride p*** in london called a carnet, it doesn't have a time/date limit iirc.
<1> the irony is it takes the same to ride to work as it does to take the train
<0> xarq: I suppose the train ride is less stressful?
<2> id ride, but its 90f in the morning and the route is uphill
<2> so i take the bus
<3> Ok, please discuss this in #lisp.blather
<1> sledge: I get to hack lisp on the train
<0> Xach: Sorry, #lisp is a configurable IRC channel. :)
<3> Don't be sorry, just shut up.
<0> xarq: well, at least we're back "on track" now.
<4> attila_lendvai: That looks a lot like the Kinesis that I have.
<5> can it be that symbol macros with side effects are slightly vile?
<4> (the TypeMatrix)
<6> Hello. I've got a quick question. I'm using clisp and I'm playing with sockets (first time with lisp! :P) anyways, when I try to use the function open-socket CLISP says it's a undefined function. But SLIME will tab-complete it and such...has anyone ran into this before? (Well maybe I'm just using it wrong or something.. O_o)
<7> michaelw: a little
<7> Yawgmoth7: where is this function documented?
<4> Yawgmoth7: The _symbol_ is in the package, but not a function with that name.
<6> Oh
<6> Well I was just looking at: http://cl-cookbook.sourceforge.net/sockets.html
<6> wait
<6> nevermind
<6> I see what I was doing wrong
<6> Sorry to bug everyone
<6> :)
<7> Yawgmoth7: perhaps you could relate your Lisp experiences to tales of commuting? ;)
<8> S11001001: I run emacs at the airport today... when transit
<8> slime-eval-region saves battery
<6> hrm, I didn't even have cl-port emerged
<6> in-package says there is not package port.
<3> Yawgmoth7: did you load the lisp source code that defines that package?
<6> Xach, nope. Didn't take that step :P. First time I've ever had to do something like this :)
<6> All I did was emerge cl-ports then try (in-package :port)
<9> Yawgmoth7: the package system does not deal with software packages
<9> it is a namespace tool only
<9> (the cl package system, that is)
<9> you may want to read more of that-dead-***y-book (and I'm not referring to the cl cookbook (:)
<9> night (:
<6> night
<10> Ugh. There are too many instructions that require CPL0. :-/
<3> hi lemonodor
<11> hi there
<12> any clisp experts around? could it be that loop in clisp does not support initially? enve more it silently ignores it?!
<12> there's not even an initially symbol in cl:
<3> attila_lendvai: clisp's loop support is complete
<13> attila pasted "loop/initially in clisp" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/22028
<12> this is definately a bug
<14> hello
<14> when will sbcl support threads on fbsd
<15> $#! lists that silently drop email...
<16> after M-x slime-disconnect i cannot connect to the image anymore. Is this by design? or should i detach slime from lisp in some other way?
<16> on the lisp end swank says slime-protocol-error - unexpected eof.
<17> I usually use ,quit. I don't have this problem.
<18> rtoym: You hero you.
<15> oudeis_: you need to restart swank
<17> kingspawn: What?
<18> rtoym: You just solved something I've been stupid enough to wonder about
<17> I did? Cool. Nothing like solving a problem you didn't even know existed. :-)
<18> :)
<18> I'd actually entirely forgotten about ,
<17> Heh. ,quit is the only thing I use.
<16> thanks!
<18> see, you solved alot of problems tonight
<18> remember this when you're old and gray
<17> I already have (some) gray hair. :-)
<18> Heh. My girlfriend says mine are ***y, so I'll just go with that =)
<18> She likes "the intellectual man"
<18> Pff.
<3> "the chatty man"
<16> hmmm, although in my case ,quit exhibits the same behaviour :(((
<15> oudeis_: how are you starting swank?
<16> swank:create-server
<18> Xach: Heh, I know you don't like me. That's okay, and I'm sorry for being chatty.
<18> I just enjoy conversation.
<15> oudeis_: p*** the :dont-close t option
<16> wow it is even capable of killing openmcl image!
<3> kingspawn: it has little to do with you
<18> Xach: It's okay either way. Usually I shut up, sometimes I "chat up".
<16> ok, with dont-close sliem-disconnect/connect works. ,quit however quits lisp for good. thanks luis!
<15> oudeis_: yeah, that's what quit does. :)
<16> i was conned by rtoym's ***ertion that he doesn't have this problem. probably misunderstood
<18> Hm, he might have had the same issue as me, since this solved mine, but I wasnt really following conv. from the start
<17> Ah, I didn't understand what you wanted.
<16> anyway now i am empowered by newly aquired understanding :)
<19> hello
<18> oudeis_: You and me both :)
<20> hello
<20> 1
<6> 2
<20> irssi
<20> heh
<20> getting the hang of it
<20> hey yawg
<6> Hey
<20> hey do you use lisp for and web stuff?
<20> any
<20> 2:
<6> Well I'm pretty new to LISP. I've just gotten into playing with sockets today. But I have a friend who has a job writing web apps in LISP.
<6> :/
<21> he quit :P
<6> yep
<6> :P
<21> teampcs? do you work for sprint or something? :P
<6> <6> Well I'm pretty new to LISP. I've just gotten into playing with
<6> sockets today. But I have a friend who has a job writing web apps
<6> in LISP.
<6> crappy formatting
<6> but that was to you..right after you left
<20> heh
<20> thx
<6> hey, I have Nextel...they just mered with sprint. You should give me a discount or extra minutes or something :D
<20> practical coomon lisp
<20> hm
<21> heh
<20> paul graham seems to have a nicer book but its hard
<6> merged*
<20> nice
<6> Practical Common LISP is good.
<6> So is Common LISP the Language 2. I use it for looking up functions and macros and stuff.
<21> yeah I like PCL, I also have PAIP which is good
<6> :)
<6> Yeah, I use hyperspec sometimes too. (I should use it all the time...since, it would be quicker and more efficient)
<21> I'm using ERC Version 5.1.2 with GNU Emacs 22.0.50.2 (i386-unknown-netbsdelf3.0, X toolkit) of 2006-07-02.
<6> I'm using ERC too.
<6> I LOVE ERC
<6> :)
<21> indeed
<2> hmm theres a job going in brea that wants a scheme head.. wonder who the company is
<2> (it was posted by an agency)
<3> dpb/ldb
<21> damn pretty quick?
<6> http://constantly.at/lisp/asdf/Using-asdf-to-load-systems.html#Using%20asdf%20to%20load%20systems <-- where they say to put that in your Lisp's init file, would that mean clisp's init file? (since I use CLISP). An... I can't seem to find a clisp.init on my system. (I looked around andd it seems that people use clisp.init)
<6> And*
<22> I seem to remember a package that provides a trivial MOP compatibility package for multiple Lisps. What am I thinking of?
<6> And when I lookup "Lisp Init File" all I get is stuff about emacs init files :P.
<23> chandler: closer-mop
<3> chandler: closer is not quite trivial
<22> ah. that is what I was thinking of, though
<22> all I really need are funcallable-instances
<6> hrm
<24> hello
<10> Hello.
<2> hi
<6> heyo, so I was about to load and compile port with asdf and then I got that error about a package being locked, well I know how to fix it..with ext:without-package-lock. But I'm not sure what package to unlock, I tried "COMMON-LISP" and "PORT"
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