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<0> are they mostly quiet here?.. with all these nicks, would think it would be more lively
<0> I like to learn by watching .. <call me a lurker mostly>
<1> traffic comes in waves here
<0> traffic is here ... someone needs to start waving!
<1> hehe
<1> Kaybabe, if you are curious about a linux topic or if you have a question just ask away. sooner or later somebody will catch up
<0> "Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems" ... seems I can't chat with you in private
<1> awww
<1> how mean
<1> you could register your nick if you want to
<0> <frowns yet again>
<1> lol
<0> yeah, I'd register when I think it's worth it ... otherwise won't waste my time! <smiles>
<1> you dont need to mess around with emails and auth codes here
<0> what happened to blocks by the client if you don't want msgs?
<1> scripts for irssi and xchat still exist



<1> for mirc also
<0> shame, they should be included in the client
<1> on some networks you can set a mode on yourself that blocks all private messages
<1> something like a "friend list" of allowed senders would be fun
<0> sorry, maybe I'm being a bit over irritated ... just visiting and seem to get doors slammed
<1> you are fine, dont worry :)
<0> I use a 3rd party client on yahoo and that's what it has ... I have all msgs blocked that way
<0> seems mIRC is behind ..
<1> :p
<0> wow debian seems to be big here ... lots of channels
<1> yeah, debian and gentoo
<0> yes .. just saw the gentoo
<0> what distro you use?
<1> i use debian most of the time
<0> I like simple ... SUSE was way out of that
<0> ubuntu didn't like my puter .. wouldn't install, was about the only one of all I tried
<1> i never liked how suse did their stuff
<1> quite simple and smooth is Fedora Core 5
<0> this is my level .. I can install and move around in them ... but that's about all, never installed programs or such
<1> there are quite good books on the net for download these days
<1> books that guide you step by step deeper into the materia as long as you are curious
<0> Linux for Dummies ... <chuckles>
<1> lol
<1> those are not so bad!
<0> no, they aren't .. and really make you laugh at the same time
<0> thank you, elf, for being so kind .. gotta go right now, hope to see you in the future .. take care!
<2> . o O ( "Context" not "Language" )
<3> Blue-sky time! If you had lots of $$ and were going to buy a new system, what processor and mobo would you go with?
<4> Any graphics programs (other than gimp) that can do complex shapes? Anyone use OO for that?
<5> orbitron: very many, there is a review in the current issue of LinuxFormat.co.UK for example.
<3> Given a wheelbarrow of cash and a free choice, would you go for the AMD Opeteron? AMD Athlon 64? Intel Xeon?
<5> banyan: Opteron dual core of course, recently released.
<3> Yeah? They're 32 bit still are they not?
<5> banyan: oh no, no Opteron has even been 32 bit only.
<4> Blis***, thanks. I take it ordering the issue is the only way to read that article
<5> orbitron: or I can give you a list of names.... Do you want a bitmap or vector editor?
<3> Blis***, you'd still go for the Opteron anyway, even though it's not 64 bit?
<4> Blis***, vector editor. Primarily I want to draw a cubes, give sides different colors
<5> orbitron: there are quite a few, like Inkscape for GNOME or Karbon14 for KDE or sodipodi or Xfig or tgif
<4> Blis***, Inkscape looks very much what I want. Anyone in particular you prefer?
<5> orbitron: well, I usually prefer KDE stuff.
<5> orbitron: but in that review Inkscape got good results.
<5> orbitron: BTW to get lists of such programs usually a good idea is to just do a search on FreshMeat.net
<6> fantahey
<6> No accelerated colorspace coversion found
<6> how do i fix that
<6> im tryin to watch a dvd.. i tried with ogle, mplayer and zine
<6> xine* and they all skip around like crazy
<3> How about well-supported, non-PITA video cards? I like my nvidia but it can be a pain.
<7> banyan: how is it a pain?
<3> the kernel module primarily.
<3> has in the past been an issue.
<6> No accelerated IMDCT transform found
<6> has anyone seen that before>/
<6> ?
<7> banyan: in what way?
<3> using their builder thing messes up the packages in fedora.
<3> and you can only have one kernel outfitted with the kernel driver at a time.
<7> banyan: hm, never used fedora.. I haven't had any problems with it tho.. even with different kernels.. :P



<5> dao: make sure your X driver supports the XVideo extension for overlays, and tell your player to use it.
<5> dao: also, try VLC as a player, it is often a bit faster anyhow.
<6> how do i do that?
<5> banyan: just about any card works easily in 2d mode. in 3D mode all are rather painful.
<6> Blis***: how do i do that? are there switches for it in mplayer or ogle?
<5> dao: unfortunately you have to google a fair bit... But start checking with 'xdpyinfo | less'.
<5> dao: and yes, all those players have some option to set the type of video overlay.
<6> and its called XVideo?
<5> dao: yes, and the option for MPLayer is '-vo'. Read a tutorial as the situation is somewhat complex.
<6> ack
<8> how would I get the total number of lines of all files ending in .cpp in a directory tree?
<9> palomer: wc *.cpp
<10> find . -name "*.cpp" -exec wc -l {} \;
<11> wc -l *.cpp **/*.cpp in zsh ;)
<11> | sort -n
<8> inv_Arp: yeah, but then you need to add'em
<10> palomer:find . -name "*.cpp" -exec wc -l {} \; | awk '{ total+=$1 }; END { print total }'
<12> How do i take p***wd file and strip out everything but username? I need to catch xxx<-:*: before :*:
<13> Penguin: print and sort the login names of all users awk -F ":" '{ print $1 | "sort" }' /etc/p***wd http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/awk/awk1line.txt
<14> is there a repo that's not supported by debian that has the j2se jre 5.0?
<14> using debian etch (testing)
<14> will the ubuntu deb work on debian etch?
<8> unix_infidel: http://serios.net/content/debian/java.php
<14> palomer: i just added debian unofficial to sources.list
<14> and after i did an apt-get update
<14> i still cant apt-cache search jre and get a hit.
<14> deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian etch main contrib non-free restricted
<14> that's my sources.list entry for unofficial.
<8> strange
<8> I have j2sdk1.5 in my apt-cache
<8> that should be impossible
<8> anyways, follow the link I gave you
<14> palomer: i'm already THERE.
<14> that's where i got the unofficial repo.
<14> does it matter that i replaced sarge with etch or testing?
<8> hrmph, follow their instructions _exactly_
<8> and everything should be ok
<14> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2se5.0-jre-binary
<8> apt-cache search java | grep sun
<14> even when i keep sarge
<14> sun-j2se1.4-doc-en - Sun Java 2 Platform Standard Edition 1.4 Documentation (English)
<14> i get a couple of doc lines :P
<8> here, try my sources.list:
<8> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/m6ORON33.html
<8> I make no guarantees
<8> and I can't help you anymore
<8> cheerio
<15> hi, i was considering either getting webhosting or a unixshell with a domain. any suggestions to a host?
<15> around 10/month is good for me
<16> .oO( man I hate coming right into a room and asking questions... )
<17> i look for how-to about cross-over-office
<17> who helps me?
<17> I am in the way of a migration of system...
<18> :P
<17> Dr_Willis you use cross-over-office ?
<18> I tend to use Cedega or the normal wine
<18> Not messed with CrossOver in years
<19> \quit
<19> quit
<18> lol
<17> rsrsrs
<18> he got it on the 3rd try
<17> after the 3rd try, the command it would have to be blocked
<17> rsrsrsrs
<17> :]
<20> i love 64bit!!!
<18> somthing with these huge 'bugs' destroying the earth and the people liveing in space trying to take back the planet.. :P
<18> had a cute blond chick as a main char.. (doesent this describt 99% of all anime?)
<14> how do i decrease the font size in aterm?
<14> and make it permanent, i just discovered, shift and plus minus.
<18> heh - never noticed shift + and -
<18> i tend to use xterm. ya could use the -fn whateverfont kind of argument. Or aterm may use the .Xdefaults file for options


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