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<0> boot a floppy disk with stage1 and stage2 with no file system. then insert another disk with ext2 fs to install it on.
<1> Is there any way to install linux with iso images residing in the harddisk
<2> eljoemagnifico : short answer: no
<3> depends on which Hard disk.
<3> you can always multicast like RIS
<4> hey all, if im running a vnc server, is there any way that (as root) i can watch another users vnc session?
<5> Guys, I really need help, Anyone know why ubuntu picks up my DVD RW but doesnt recognise media in it. CD/Music/DVD-R's....
<6> Nullified: thanks for thinking that we are clairvoyant...
<5> i have faith in you
<7> Nullified: your flux capacitor is tuned wrong to the shield harmony
<5> O Rly???
<5> thats not good
<6> Nullified: more details...
<5> It appears to be mounted fine, Even burning programs pick up that its a pioneer writer,
<5> However if i place Cd's etc into the drive its like the drive thinks there is nothing there
<6> Nullified: drives don't think -- the drive may be recognized but perhaps the CD/DVD inside is not mounted.



<6> Nullified: usually things in Ubuntu are automounted, but you can alway mount them manually.
<5> Blis***, To be honest you may have already noticed but i really **** at this
<6> Nullified: OK, dont be depressed. The main thing is that you need to describe things as closely as possible, giving context, precisely, because we are not there.
<5> Blis***, I should really know better i give tech support over the phones for an ISP so i should know better hehe
<6> Nullified: usually the best thing is ''using A, I try to do B, and C happens instead of D as I want''
<6> Nullified: ahhhh so you are a victim too :-)
<6> Nullified: for example, from what do you detect that the CD is not recognized?
<5> For instance, I place my CD into the drive, a blank disc, I try to burn data to it using gnomebaker or a similar program, And it repeatadly asks me to place blank media into the drive, When blank media is there.
<5> I try to open the CD drive via the gui and it returns this error message if its of any help "mount: block device /dev/hdb is write-protected, mounting read-only
<5> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,"
<6> Nullified: ahhhh, thats completely different from what I was guessing. You should have said it was about _recording_, not reading the disk.
<6> Nullified: you cannot mount/open blank media...
<6> Nullified: are you at the very same PC?
<5> Yes, the media isnt blank, its an audio CD at the moment, Im just trying to open it to view the music files, and it returns the message above
<6> Nullified: guessing wildly either your CDs are in effect not blank, or you are giving the wrong device name.
<6> Nullified: you cannot read music CDs.
<6> Nullified: unless you install a special driver module.
<5> Well **** me, wait there I'll try a data CD instead
<6> Nullified: music CDs are in a special format that is not the same as data CDs.
<6> Nullified: to rip/read music CDs you should use the command line 'cdparanoia' or one of its many front ends, like GrIP
<5> Ahh i see what you mean. Ok wait there I will try placing a blank CD into the drive and burning a DATA CD, thanks for this help
<6> Nullified: go by stages...
<6> Nullified: first put in an already written, pressed (not burned) data CD, and see if you can read it. This establishes that at least _something_ works and you are using the right device name etc.
<5> Yes thats working,
<6> Nullified: then try a music CD, and use a GUI music CD control program or a ripper. If you have GrIP, use that, it is very good and does both.
<5> Blis***, I tried to use sound juicer to rip the audio CD's and it gives the error that "CD-Rom Device'/dev/hdb' Reason permission denied.
<6> Nullified: thats a lot better. Try to do the same as 'root'
<5> This is where i fail, i really dont know how as i dont have a root gui account
<5> ill have a look on google if i can do it
<6> Nullified: 'sudo' or 'run as'
<5> Blis***, Took me long enough but it was as easy as start sound-juicer, Seems to be working fine.
<6> Nullified: now that reading data and music CDs seems to be working, you have to investigate burning. Usually you must have 'root' privileges to burn too...
<5> Blis***, It appears to only be extracting the cd at 2.9 to 3.0x speed....Isnt that very slow
<6> Nullified: depends _a lot_ on the specific drive and how accurate you want extraction to be.
<6> Nullified: most MS Windows extractors by default run in an inaccurate mode. Most GNU/Linux ones usually run in an accurate mode.
<5> Right, I think to be honest this mobo is a bit ****ty, ill be replacing it next month
<6> Nullified: it is not a motherboard problem that one, it is a drive/accuracy problem.
<8> cdparanoia has that name for a reason
<6> Nullified: there are websites with endless discussions of which drive is best for direct audio extraction, performance and accuracy are very very varying.
<8> anyway, Nullified should not need to be using sudo for reading/writing CDs. this is particularly odd as he's using ubunu
<5> Ah right, thanks, i just thought it was underperforming, i mean even burning 16x dvd's its doing it at like 4x
<5> Is CD paranoia a tool to test speeds?
<6> Nullified: ahhh in the burning case probably it is missing DMA.
<8> cdparanoia is the audio cd ripping backend
<8> Nullified: can you open a terminal and do ls -l /dev/hdb?
<5> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 3, 64 2006-05-14 18:27 /dev/hdb
<8> so your user is probably not in the cdrom group for some reason. that's highly unusual
<8> how was your current user added?
<5> indeed, seeming though its the only account on the computer, other than root itself
<5> It was added on setup
<8> strange
<8> that's the first time I've heard of that not working
<6> Nullified: Triskelios: there are TWO ways to give access to devices, and some distros use one and some use the other.
<6> Nullified: and your distro seems to use the other one :-)
<5> hehe, Just my luck eh
<6> Nullified: not luck etc.; just different ways, and one needs you to do some manual setup, and thats the one you got.
<8> Blis***: well, no. this is normally supposed to have been done. I've done dozens of ubuntu installs
<6> Nullified: Debian/Ubuntu/... use method #2: each group of devices can be accessed by a special group. You need to put your user in that group.
<6> Triskelios: ideally :-) Mishaps to happen.
<6> Nullified: BTW, still in the command line, just to make sure, type 'groups' and tell us the output.
<8> cosmic radiation =x



<5> be back in just a minute, need the toilet, Thanks for all your help guys!
<5> nullified@Linux:~$ groups
<5> admin audio
<5> nullified@Linux:~$
<5> Blis***, ^^
<6> Nullified: you are already in the 'audio' group for the sound devices.
<6> Nullified: so add yourself to the 'cdrom' group too.
<8> sudo usermod -G admin,cdrom,floppy,audio,video,plugdev,lpadmin scanner nullified
<8> those are more or less the default groups you should be a member of
<6> yes, thats a good list just incase.
<8> oops, missing a comma there
<8> sudo usermod -G admin,cdrom,floppy,audio,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner nullified
<5> hmm i typed that in Triskelios, it seemed to go through fine, typed groups again to see what groups i belong to and its still admin and audio
<6> Nullified: login again
<5> ok brb
<5> Thanks guys that seems to have solved it
<5> Well we learn new things every day
<8> as for CD burning (and also hard disk) performance you can enable DMA to improve that
<5> I cant look that up, I get a weird error message everytime i log in apparently my home directory has incorrect user permissions,
<5> pain in the ***
<8> is this a recent change?
<5> yea, all in the same day, I lost the mounting for my external HDD, CD drive access and sound
<5> I manged to solve each one peice by peice
<8> oh, you didn't mention that before..
<8> so something really weird happened regarding your account I guess
<5> Well i had this error message, all the settings appeared the same, I noticed the sound first, Run some commands rebooted that solved it, then the next day i noticed my HDD had dissapeard....
<5> they were probably all interlinked looking back on it
<8> so what are your home directory permissions right now?
<8> ls -ld ~nullified
<5> drwxrwxrwx 47 nullified nullified 4096 2006-05-15 00:01 /home/nullified
<8> whoa, that's world-writable. ouch
<8> did you change the permissions at some point?
<5> Nope I dont belive i've ever messed around much in CLI before today
<5> obviously....world writeable is bad?
<8> yes. anyone can change your home dir (this is more of a concern on multi-user machine, but it's still not a good thing)
<5> What should i change it to?
<8> so what exactly did that error message say?
<5> um ill relog now and give it to you
<5> Triskelios, Your $Home/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored yada yada, This file should have 644 permissions this is preventing you from saving your session or language settings
<8> Nullified: chmod og-w ~ && chmod 644 ~/.dmrc
<9> Triskelios: Thank you very much its solved! One last thing, Im in love with this girl from russia....think you could fix that too?
<10> umount /dev/heart
<10> done
<10> anything else?
<8> haha
<9> hehe if only it was that simple
<9> <3 Lena katina
<8> oh, man... that group
<9> i dont like the brunette, I just love the ginger one. Shes so......dreamy
<11> does lspci list pcmcia cards?
<3> Toba: sure
<11> hmm
<12> to run dhcpcd i have to open udp port 67+68 for both outgoing and incoming traffic ?
<13> Can anyone offer some help with wireless? I'm having some issues figuring out how to connect to a network
<3> ask.
<13> I dunno. I can see wireless networks, but not seem to connect to any.
<3> CHodapp: iwconfig eth1 essid ESSID
<3> erm.
<3> iwconfig [interface] essid [desired essid]
<13> I tried that...
<13> It got good signal quality, but none would connect
<13> I ***ume I need to get an IP somehow?
<3> CHodapp: wouldnt connect?
<13> I dunno.... can't seem to get an IP with dhcpcd
<3> dhclient or dhcpcd [interface]
<13> yes.
<3> are you sure you're not using mac filtering.
<3> maybe you dont have a free ip address in your range to lease.
<13> These, to my knowledge, are open networks that shouldn't bother with that
<3> maybe your router doesnt to dhcp or doesnt have it enabled.
<3> i could go on.
<13> It's a bunch of open access points on campus, including the official campus one.
<3> it could be encrypted ( a big one)
<3> dhcpcd should spit out some errors.


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