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<0> uncreative \'
<0> Zider : configure that functionality in whatever graphical login manager you sue
<0> s/sue/use
<1> ananke: I suppose that would be xdm.. you wouldn't happen to know how..?
<2> ananke: hm i did try that, but it didn't seem to work for me: bash: /Users/uncreative/.profile: line 47: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
<0> Zider : dunno. i use kdm, and kcontrol gives you a nice interface for that
<1> mkay
<0> uncreative : did you escape both inner '? also, you may want to replace the outside ' with "
<0> anyway, time to go home
<2> ananke: yeah: alias pgstart='su - postgres -c \'/usr/local/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl -D /usr/local/pgsql/data -l logfile start\''
<2> ananke: ah replacing the outside ones with double quotes worked - thanks1
<2> s/1/!
<3> Blis***: dude
<4> spike: me? :-)
<4> spike: I am not really like the dude -- you are more like that... :-)
<3> ehehe
<3> Blis***: yessir
<3> btw, wtf is going on with this debiani initrd image? I thought I was supposed to gunzip it and mount it, but it turned out to be a cpio archive
<3> uncompressed it with pax, and I was expecting a linuxrc file in root, but there's no one
<3> what am I missing?
<4> spike: can't remember...
<5> Hello... any PPP / networking whizzes around? I'm looking for a good way to link a local LAN with PPP to the internet, providing routing between the two. This means I can't use proxyarp, correct?
<4> gschepens: what do you mean by link a local LAN?
<5> OK, I have a little island of a network on 192.168.1.x /12...
<5> This is ethernet. I also have a serial port which is going to connect to the outside world using ppp with a CDPD wireless modem.
<5> That serial port will, I ***ume, get an IP address, and I will have to set up a route between the network with the serial interface and the network off the Ethernet.
<5> This is all happening in an Intellicom netbiter (a little embedded linux box with two com ports and an ethernet port).
<4> gschepens: you want your LAN PCs to access the internet, or the internet to be able to access your LAN PCs?
<5> spike: aren't initrd images always gzipped cpio archives?
<5> Primarily the latter.
<5> (And they're better described as devices, just because none of them are what you'd consider PCs. One Windows CE thingy, and the netbiter.)
<4> gschepens: if you want hosts on the internet to be able to start connections to hosts on your LAN, that's hard work.
<5> They need to set up routes to the "non-routable" addresses; or there needs to be masquerading set up.
<5> Or ...?
<4> gschepens: you need to do one of two things: pay your ISP to give you a routable range, or get an IPv6 tunnel
<5> So, my hunch about proxyarp not working for this would be correct then?
<4> gschepens: you can do routes to non routable addresses, and masquerading solves the other problem, that of letting your LAN hosts access the internet, not viceversa.
<5> Hmm, what I don't know about IP tunneling could doubtless fill a large book.
<5> :-)
<4> gschepens: but I detect that your aims a bit confused. Try to make an example of something you would like to do (a ''use case'' or a ''story'').
<5> OK! I can do that.
<5> Case 1: The Netbiter establishes a connection to the Internet with a CDPD modem. An outside user then connects to the NetBiter on port 2000 to use the service sredird in order to remotely configure another serial device. The remote user performs his remote configuration tasks, and then disconnects, leaving the CDPD modem connection intact.
<5> Case 2: The Netbiter establishes a connection to the Internet with a CDPD modem. An outside user then connects from the Netbiter (192.168.1.10) to the Windows CE box (192.168.1.12) using an internal route set up in the Netbiter. The remote user downloads a new configuration to the Windows CE box and when he is finished, he disconnects, leaving the CDPD modem connection to the Netbiter intact.
<6> Hello
<6> Anyone got any idea of how I can bind my multimedia buttons on the keyboard?
<5> Case 3: The Netbiter establishes a connection to the Internet with a CDPD modem. An outside user then connects to the Netbiter and uses an application protocol to retrieve some live data from it. When he is finished, he disconnects, leaving the CDPD modem connection to the Netbiter intact.
<5> Laban: you running kde?
<5> I think you can do it by configuring Input Actions in the control centre, which can be found under Regional and Accessibility.
<5> You might have to experiment to find out what the key codes are for the special buttons tho.
<4> gschepens: wait I sec pondering...
<4> Laban: you need to invest some time into XKB setup, or 'xmodmap'.
<4> gschepens: both are slightly complicated cases, and you are running totally against the grain...
<6> gschepens: Yepp, KDE.
<6> Ah xmodmap. Heard that somewhere before.
<6> Will look into it.
<6> Thanks.
<4> gschepens: the Netbiter is designed to work around the unroutable address issue by connecting to each device using a serial line, that is treating it in effect as a peripheral
<5> CDPD and such technologies are all intended to be used with standalone machines on an island.
<5> Not necessarily. Say, the Windows CE box would be connected over Ethernet.
<5> However one use of the PPP connection that we hope to be able to take advantage of would be running sredird to allow a 'terminal server' style session to an rs-485 serial port.
<5> but this is a semi-transparent serial connection from the remote machine.
<5> I agree that the wrinkle here is that we want to allow incoming connections which is opposite how these situations typically are.
<5> How about a little ip-to-ip tunnel to a remote server?
<5> That could be established from the field side.
<4> gschepens: as long as connections are initiated from the LAN side it is fine. But the addressability problem remains...
<5> Right, what do we call the local devices from the internet side?
<4> gschepens: thats the problem :-)
<5> Well, if the Netbiter was set up as an ip masquerading firewall, specific services could be mapped to specific ports on other machines.
<5> In the way that the DLink firewall / routers work.
<4> gschepens: ah but masqueranding works from LAN to internet, not viceversa.
<4> gschepens: the typical solution to access inner services is to run a proxy on the router.
<5> This would really be the same would it not? that whole setting up virtual services on the router that get forwarded to lan boxes.
<4> gschepens: that is: internet connects to port N on the router, a proxy listen on port N, and then connects to port X on another device on the LAN.
<5> Right.
<5> Now, how the heck can a guy do that?
<4> gschepens: that's different from masq, because masq is dynamic; it ''sees'' packets flowing from inside to internet and notices the mappings. To do the opposite you need it static.
<5> The other question is, the CDPD probably just does masquerading of its own. So will this approach work anyway?
<4> gschepens: well, if your router were a Linux PC it would be dead easy: there are plenty of service-level proxies.
<5> CDPD modems get ***igned a static IP address I believe (or at least you can get them that way, which we probably would.)
<4> gschepens: but that IP address would not be routable...
<6> Hm. I'm having issues mounting a usb-memstick over here. The kernel finds and identifies it, but if I try mounting sda1 it just gives me "not a valid block device". Any idea on what to do?
<6> Kernel is 2.6.15.6, with USB-support/usb block devices and vfat.
<7> what makes you think the kernel finds and identifies it?
<6> Well, I guess that's what's thrown into /var/log/messages
<7> does sda show up in /proc/partitions?
<6> Nope
<7> what modules are loaded?
<6> Some soundmods, joystick and nvidia drivers.
<6> USB stuff is compiled in.
<7> how about you list them since I'm trying to make sure you have the right usb modules loaded? unless you built them in
<7> k
<7> and you compiled in CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD ?
<6> http://ogaboga.lan2k.org/lsmod http://ogaboga.lan2k.org/dmesg
<1> does anyone here use an old ati cards video-out?
<6> Hmmm
<6> root@ogaboga:/usr/src/linux# grep CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD .config
<6> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD is not set
<7> i think that's all you need (module or builtin)
<6> d'oh
<6> Can just that module be built?
<8> anyone know of a program that like grep, but instead of stripping non-matches, just hilights the matches?
<6> uhh
<6> oh
<7> Laban: yeah, should be fine
<6> nimaj: Now I just have to figure out how to do that ;)
<7> Laban: Device Drivers-> SCSI -> SCSI disk support
<6> I meant how to build only that module, could be good to know sometime I guess.
<7> highlight it, and hit M
<7> or if you're manually editing your .config, ....=m
<7> then you can do 'make modules && make modules_install'
<7> or 'make && make modules_install'
<6> Hey, this looks neat :D
<7> ?
<6> I set it to M, make modules && make modules_install
<6> and modprobed sd
<6> or sd_mod
<6> and now it appears some stuff in /proc/partitions :)
<6> Aaaand, the led on the memstick fades/glows rather than flickering.
<6> Thank you!
<7> no problem
<7> then you can just make an entry in /etc/fstab so your user can get to it
<7> enjoy
<6> :)
<7> sorry if i seemed testy, just got out of cl*** and back to work
<6> Nah, I think you were helpful.
<9> any reason why i umounted my /win partition but still can't resize it
<9> and cat /proc/mounts doesn't show it
<9> but still says umount /win/C before resizing
<9> i even set it to not mount on boot and restarted
<9> stilll says its mounted
<9> but its not
<7> is that partition on the same hard drive you're using?
<9> yeah
<9> split
<9> but now i want to just have maybe 5 gig for win and 55 for linux
<9> hopefully soon 0 and 60
<7> you can't modify a drive that's in use (basically)
<7> try doing this from a live cd
<9> good idea
<9> finding disk 1
<9> bbl
<5> Blis***: what are the ways a person can route port X on your local machine to port Y on a specific remote machine?
<5> Ah, Blis*** left.
<3> gschepens: iptables, rinetd like daemons
<3> netcat + script
<3> ssh tunnel
<3> gschepens: enough? :)
<5> Which would work most like the dlink business where incoming connections are just forwarded into the lan?
<5> iptables would behave most like that would it not? where external connections established to the gateway would be forwarded to the specified LAN computer?
<3> that makes almost no sense, but anyway, ***uming we're talking dlink modem/router, iptables
<5> that's what I am talking about, yeah, where you set up the "virtual server" on the dlink...
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