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<0> won't starting bash cause it to wait for input?
<0> like when you boot with init=/bin/sh as a kernel argument
<0> ?
<1> nah
<0> how is that even possible? doesn't the kernel have to wait for linuxrc to exit before goign on, so that you know the drivers have loaded in a standard initrd?
<0> ...oof, that was terrible english.
<1> yeah, I get what you mean, and it someway makes sense to me, but I cant tell you much about it, never tried anything like that
<1> all the initrd I've built were supposed to aid booting on lvm, raid, or from usb devices
<0> but, you got in initrd to do *something* which is more than i can seem to get
<1> so I never put anything in that was supposed to ask for input
<0> i can't get any output either
<0> i tried echo "blahblahblah", and echo "blahbalhblah">/dev/console, and neither seemed to work
<0> so i feel like i'm doing something stupid
<1> have you tried to mount something from it and write to a file instead of /dev/console?
<0> hmm... no, but there's no filesystem on the box
<1> have you got a usb key?
<0> and i don't have the dev entries until udev starts
<0> yeah, i think so
<1> but again, I'm not sure how that'd work, I've used it for normal stuff only, and there the flow is "do something,like activating lvm volumes, then p*** control to the kernel"
<0> sure sure
<1> actually yes, it should wait for input now that you make me think of that...
<0> where did you put your 'do stuff' script?
<1> just thought of encrypted root fs setups
<0> yeah
<1> initrd is supposed to boot and ask you for a pwd so it can decrypt root partition before it goes on
<1> Nedlinpopo: /etc/mkinitrd/
<1> put everything there and run mkinitrd
<0> ?
<0> on my local FS?
<0> or in the initrd image
<1> Nedlinpopo: local FS, always built my initrd on my debian workstation.
<1> anyway, I'm supposed to leave for work, c ya later
<0> later
<2> I'm running a backup on my mailserver, RH9, using tar to a network directory, but it keeps failing because the host machine runs out of space, but there is plenty on the network drive. I'm presuming this is the temp directory. Is there a way to make tar use a different temp directory?
<0> uhh, i though tar was in-place
<0> are you sure you're not hitting a filesize limit on the network share?
<2> well it stope after different sizes. 131MB or 51MB different every time
<2> ^stops
<0> what is the share?
<0> SMB? AFS? NFS?
<2> standard share on a Win2003 server machine
<2> SMB
<0> what does df report as being the free space on the device?
<2> the share?
<0> yeah
<0> df -hk will tell you what linux thinks it has available
<2> 2.9G
<0> hmm
<0> what's your tar command look like?
<2> tar -czps -f /mnt/linuxbackup/adminlinuxbackup.tar.gz /boot/ /etc/ /home/ /root/ /var/spool/mail/ /var/log/
<2> it's the gzip....
<2> isn't it?
<3> Hi. Program X needs Program A, B, C. Program C needs Program D, E, F. I think you see what I mean. :) My question is, is there an application that can draw graphical dependency trees? (for instance, save it as a .png file automagically)
<0> shevegen: probably you can make one with graphviz and appropriate awk
<0> ******in5: i dunno
<0> it looks like it's probably okay
<3> "Graph visualization is a way of representing structural information as diagrams of abstract graphs and networks." cool, thanks. gonna dig in
<0> do you have enough space locally to try the job instead of to the network share?
<2> no i don't
<0> not even in /tmp?
<2> oh actually I might,
<2> not in tmp though
<2> okay, just trying it local. got a edirectory I can use.
<0> cool, see if that works
<2> never really had a problem before.
<0> I can't remember any specific reason for not liking it, but on the back of my brain i have a vague feeling of uneasiness with it
<2> I can understand that. I've got a few things that do that to me...
<0> heh
<2> 800MB and still going....
<0> yeah
<0> that's kinda what i thought
<0> i wish i could tell you why though
<2> I guess I can change the script to do the compress then copy to the share
<2> I think it's because there is 173MB on the / partition, so doing it direct to an SMB drive does something locally first
<0> maybe
<0> i don't know that much about SMB caches and such
<2> I'm gonna try it again, but change directory to somewhere with enough space first.
<2> hmmm I got: tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors at the end
<2> 1.4GB file though
<0> what did it error on?
<2> not sure. I got a few 'file changed as we read it' messages and then that as the last line.
<0> that could be
<0> since the smb share is undoubtably slower
<0> it might not have made it so far
<2> I've not done it to the share yet, that was all local
<2> just trying to copy it now.
<2> well, well, well.... cp: writing `/mnt/linuxbackup/adminlinuxbackup-test.tar.gz': Input/output error
<2> only managed to copy 50mb
<0> yeah, the tar error may be nasty, and a timigh type problem
<0> but that's ****taculat too
<0> s/****taculat/****taculat
<0> ...dammit.
<0> ****tacular
<2> still, if there is 3GB free on the share, I should at least be able to copy to it.
<2> whats a timigh problem?
<0> you'd think that wouldn't you
<0> that's a typo for "timing problem" as in the amount of time tar takes to run affects where it stops, as opposed to a filesize problem
<2> thought so.
<0> it's late, and i can't type anymore it seems
<2> still if I run the tar locally and then copy, tar cannot have a prob with the SMB share.
<2> sok. It's early for me and I can't type properlly anyway
<0> heh
<0> i think you have 2 problems. the timing of tar, and craptitude of SMB
<4> Hello, there are 2 webradios we want to download just once, and then the people on our local network should be able to listen to these streams. This way we want to reduce the download usage
<4> what can you suggest?
<0> a cisco content engine
<2> Nedlinpopo, yeah it's looking that way. Gonna try different things. see what sticks. maybe a different compressor.
<0> if it's mostly text, bzip2 is really good at that
<2> mostly is, so I'll give it a go
<2> note to self: do not run the tar to a location that is being compressed. :P
<0> hahah
<0> yes.
<2> I'm gonna try it without compressing...
<0> try it with a smaller test set to save yourself time
<2> failed instatly this time.
<2> tar: /mnt/linuxbackup/adminlinuxbackup-test.tar.gz: Wrote only 2048 of 10240 bytes
<2> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
<2> ouch
<0> add a -v to tar for testing
<2> got to be smb. it's fine to local
<2> yeah. it behaves different everytime if I tar to the share.
<0> i'm still concerned about the file accessed while tar is running
<2> it's a live system, so it makes sense that it would happen now. peoiple checking theor emails and such.
<0> yeah
<0> i think there's some tricks you can do to lock the files and such, but i'm a bit rust
<0> yt
<2> I'm gonna give bzip2 a shot. I guess I can compress directlly to the share...
<0> possiblly
<0> but the share is unreliable, no?
<2> of course. see my brain not working correctlly.......
<0> yes.
<0> which is amazing because it hink i'm burned out for today
<0> if this doesnt' work in the next 20 minutes i'm goign to go to sleep
<0> ....****.
<0> is swearing allowed in this channel?
<2> you go dude. I've got a bit of a handle on this now....
<0> i think i just figured it out.
<0> it looks like the dynamic linker in the kernel doesn't work
<0> the pain
<0> i have been fighting this for 16 hours now, and i think i just proved it was impossible.
<4> Hello, we want to use an ubuntu server to relay two internet webradio streams to our local network so users can listen to it on the local network , but so that the streams only get downloaded once. What can I use on ubuntu to do this. Note that both radio's use windows media format. I tried installing SlimServer but doesn't work on ubuntu
<0> TimothyP: clever. I take it you got a price quote on the cisco box :P
<0> okay i've had it. I'm going home.
<4> huh ?
<0> night all. thanks for the help
<4> oh that cisco reply was for me???
<0> yes.
<0> it's a magic box that should do that
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