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<0> macka: idles at ~35C instead of ~45C <1> http://www.deater.net/john/powernowd.html <1> nice... that's what I'm looking for <1> actually, no it's not :-) <1> it just does the same thing as echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor <0> yeah, I use the ondeman governor - the conservative governor in later kernels is said to be better <1> which kernel's it in? <2> Ok, thanks anyway <2> ciao. <0> macka: I forget which it came in, .14 perhaps? maybe .12 even <1> 2.6 right? <0> yeah <1> so I'd have it <1> 15/2 <3> you need cpufreq <3> or cpufreq-tils
<3> utils* <0> should do - cat scaling_available_governors <3> amphi: on what proc <3> are you getting those temps? <1> unix_infidel: I've got that <1> root@sleeper:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq# cat scaling_available_governors <0> unix_infidel: pentium m <1> conservative ondemand powersave userspace performance <0> there ya go <1> it seems that none of them will let it drop below 1Ghz <3> amphi: you've got it running on 35C on a pM, what speed? <1> I'd love it to run at say 500Mhz... <3> amphi: what speed proc i mean. <3> and what kinda laptop? <0> unix_infidel: 1.6GHz dothan I believe <0> stinkpad <3> amphi: never been able to get the thinkad below 40C idle. <3> that's rediculous, wait till it heats up. <0> 'Thermal 1: ok, 36.0 degrees C' quoth acpi now <3> what's the ambient temp? <0> ~20C probably <0> maybe a bit less <0> I'm using the ondemand governor, so it's probably .6 or .8 GHz most of the time <3> 20C? <3> lol. <3> no wonder, i'm at about 76 in this house. <3> F <0> well, between 10 & 20 C at any rate ;) <3> no wonder, the ambient temp is gonna cool that ****er down tons, wait for it to heat up. <1> it was all well and good at my old house... was normally about 10c ambient :) <3> mine is about 25-26 in my house, its winter time here. <0> unix_infidel: did you under-volt your cpu? <3> amphi: nope. you did? <3> how? <3> in bios or in windows... <0> yeah - there's a patch that lets you change the freq voltage pairs via sysfs <0> kernel patch <0> windows, pfft ;) <4> is there a term app that can convert metrics? <3> iono, your ambient temp DEF has a lot to do with the CPUtemps. <3> my ambient temp in F is about 10 degrees higher or more and my temp on the CPU is 10C higher. <0> definitely, but reducing the cpu voltage makes a considerable difference <3> amphi: got a tutorial on it? <3> undervolting? <1> amphi: and do I do that in the BIOS? <0> macka: do what? undervolting? <1> just chuck a resistor over a couple of the pins, she'll be 'right <1> :-) <1> even better - a trimpot <3> amphi: btw, what distro you on? <0> unix_infidel: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Pentium_M_undervolting_and_underclocking <0> debian <4> what is the name of sci calc in linux? does it work in a terminal, or its a GUI thing? <3> ubuntu here, cloes enough. <3> xcalc has a sci mode. <3> kcalc does too. <0> unix_infidel: BTW, I used the patch in 'alternative 3', centrino-voltages.diff <0> I haven't tried the other methods <3> amphi: i'm gonna try specific voltages in windows first then try them in linux. <4> unix_infidel: I need something that works from a terminal. I don't have X installed. <0> and then trial and error with mprime
<0> what's windows got to do with anything? <3> amphi: they have apps in windows to easily undervolt. <3> i'm gonna test out different voltages in windows then try them in linux with the module. <0> just apply the patch, dump scaling_voltages, and echo away until it moreorless works ;) <3> ill mess with it later. <0> dump the default scaling_voltages after boot, I mean - for instance, swsusp didn't like the undervolting at all, so my acpi script restores the defaults, and then restores the lower voltages on wake up <4> unix_infidel: I'm using powernowd for thinkpad CPU frequency spcaling. <3> beered: already got freq scaling. <3> need voltage scaling. <4> LOL <0> for small values of 'need' ;) <0> this patch makes it easy to mess with the voltages with echo and sysfs: http://avkrok.net/nw8240/centrino-voltages.diff <4> unix_infidel: CPU frequency scaling controls voltage. That's the whole point. I think if you mess with voltage and don't scale CPU you are likley to fry something. <3> beered: voltage and cpufreq scaling are different entirely. <0> beered: you can reduce the voltage for each freq <5> ok cool dudes, how do I use find to find the newest file recursively and return only that newest file, don't want to see scrolling etc... <0> beered: there's a table of freq/voltage pairs <0> xp_: ctrl-s will prevent scrolling <3> xp_: ls -la | grep blah blah. <3> where blah=date of most recent :P <3> or just use konq to sort by newest. <0> or find <4> xp_: ls -lrt <4> xp_: to see only the newest files pipe it with xargs. <4> whats the coolest terminal application out there? I need to impress a windows person. <4> windows = dos <0> ls <4> pfft. <4> :) <0> cat? ;) <4> no, i need something like fortune, or dict. <0> mplayer with the aalib driver? <4> that's pretty good, but I need a termianl app. <0> that's console, text driver <4> ahh... let me check that out. <4> thanks! <0> you want a pretty hi-res console for best results, 128x48 isn't really enough <6> hello <1> beered: http://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ <4> macka: text mode quake? that's awesome! <1> that's what I thought :-D <4> "people are starving to death in this world... and somebody had time for this....." <1> hehehe <1> "Rarely do I see something on the web that makes me scream OUT LOUD, but I saw this page and yelled, "Oh Jesus God, NO!" like I had just seen Rosemary's Baby. I don't know what the contest was, but YOU WIN!" <1> http://icculus.org/~chunky/ut/aaut/ <4> > http://icculus.org/~chunky/ut/aaut/ <4> ooops <1> :) <7> I just installed postfix yesterday and I had some issues with getting it working so now I have some mail in the queue that says "(delivery temporarily suspended: transport is unavailable)". The mail server is workin now but I can't get thos messages to send. I tried postfix flush but that did not work. Does anyone know what I can do to get postfix to send these messages? <8> i grabbed a document that's in sgml format. how can i read this? <9> Smoked1: you may have b0rked up the master.cf entries for the transport service, or done something nasty to the default transport in main.cf. postfix flush just tells postfix to retry delivery, it won't clear problems. what do you have in /var/log/{messages,maillog}? <3> hey, using cpufreq-utils to manage cpufreqd in UbuntuLinux. I've set the max freq, min freq and governor to userspace, but sometimes randomly it automatically sets the governor back to performance which brings the cpufreq back up to 1.7ghz. <3> is there a way to stop this from happening <10> greetings everyone :) <1> Smoked1: www.xmailserver.org <-- very nice piece of software <9> bleh <1> better than post**** <9> postfix rocks. you just have to know how to use it <1> hehehe <1> all comes down to personal preferance <9> i run more than one enterprise production mailserver w/ postfix 24/7 x 365 for an isp where i'm head sys admin <9> it's always done a great job <1> xmail has a teriffic API and has several tools available for management. www.alouria.com has made a very good one. <1> See, I (used to) install a lot of server that were to be maintained by windows users, so that kind of stuff was great for me <11> how do i loop a movie in xine? <1> hi smicke, how are you? <9> postfix is also very extensible. PostfixAdmin is still coming along, but promising. and a fully integrated ldap or sql db driver for mail and other user info is great <1> Rith: yes, LDAP is a great bonus. That's one of the reasons we use it here <11> macka: good. do you know how to loop thing in xine? <1> no <11> eh <1> you might get better responses if you attempt some form of greeting <1> instead of just joining and asking
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