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<0> have it
<1> not a liveCD, an install one
<0> have it
<0> lol
<1> then why on earth are you trying to install knoppix?
<0> lol
<0> i've been trying to install the debian system from it
<0> but, i completely forgot that Ubuntu is based on the debian system
<0> lol
<0> can I install debian, not ubuntu, but debian from the cd?
<1> no
<0> ...hmm....
<2> ubuntu is not quite debian, just a lot of the software base is derived from it
<0> I don't really like Gnome. I like kde better
<0> but...



<2> nothing prevents you from installing kde on ubuntu
<2> or any other reasonable distro
<0> ...
<0> I wasnt aware i could install it as KDE...
<0> I thought you had to have Kbuntu for that
<2> no
<0> o... How do i install it as kde then
<2> ubuntu just comes with gnome installed, kubuntu comes with kde installed. that's the only difference
<0> aww
<2> install ubuntu, then install kde
<0> would i have to download kde or is it already on the cd
<2> you'd have to download it. you'd probably have to download parts of gnome too, since there are probably updates by now
<0> yeah
<0> alright, thanx. I'll go try that now, since i have nothing better to do.
<0> lol
<0> bbl
<3> hey guys, i have ssh running, how come there is no secure file in /var/log ?
<1> there is no what?
<3> "secure" file
<3> a file called secure
<1> and why do you expect such thing to be there?
<3> the file secure is a file for ssh connections, attempts, ssh logs.
<1> that it entirely depends on the distro you're running, sounds like RH-ish stuff
<3> hmm yeah.
<1> eheh
<3> i had that setup on fedora before
<3> im on gentoo now.,
<1> well, it's not unix standard, so you shouldnt be looking for it on other distros
<4> gentoo has a very easy setup for logfiles
<3> spike: i didn't know, thanks though. there must be some type of log that logs failed attempts on tcp ports connections
<4> some are in /var/log/, all the rest is strewn over the place like /var/www/$apache_hostname/$programname/var/log/ or /dev/null/var/log/
<3> RichiH: hmm ok then.
<4> to summarize, whoever thought that system up needs to be shot with a elephant gun
<5> good morning
<1> RichiH: since we such persons deserve a quick death?
<1> they should be tortured, cured and then tortured again
<4> heh
<6> what is the command to login to imap?
<2> sorin_: are you trying to use an imap server manually? don't
<6> i'm tryng to see if i can change my p*** so i'm telneting to 143 but i don't know how to login
<7> sorin, testing imap?
<7> . login $username $p***word
<7> sorry. its 1 login $username $p***word
<7> then to see if it was successful, try
<7> 2 list "" "%"
<1> he cant change his p***word anyway
<6> _sho_, thanks
<7> surely
<7> what imap you using
<6> dovecot
<7> ah
<7> i hate dovecot
<7> its probably very powerful
<7> but third party auth is a pain in the *** (it has to be built into dovecot, and isnt external)
<6> i wanna make a plugin for squirrelmail working
<6> changep*** plugin
<3> hey guys, how can i check for failed attempts on ssh ?
<2> figure out where it logs to
<2> openssh uses syslog so you need to check your syslog configuration
<3> ahhh, thats right.
<3> thanks



<7> wow.
<7> someone moved /var/log to someplace else, and syslog wont log anymore
<7> go figure
<3> Triskelios: do i just create a file in syslog-ng.conf for syslog to log to?
<3> for ssh that is
<2> it doesn't have something configured already?
<3> Triskelios: no it doesn't.
<3> why?
<2> usually there is a default log setup
<3> Triskelios: not for gentoo :
<3> Triskelios: there is no log file for ssh.
<8> I can't see any text from the other person when I pm someone in xchat... any idea how to fix it?
<2> lesshaste: are you sure it's not just a umode preventing them from messaging you?
<8> Triskelios: it could easily be... I had this problem once before ages ago and I needed to change something at my end
<8> Triskelios: but I can't remember what
<7> i have a question about hardware!
<7> will dual channel ddr work in my box? i run 3200 ddr, but no clue if my board supports it
<2> stark: feel free to create one, then
<7> doesnt dual channel just mean "if your board supports it..." ?
<2> yes, afaik
<3> Triskelios: Ok I've create a file sshd.log in /var/log
<3> and then edited syslog-ng.conf with the correct parameters
<3> now its saying "facility unknown"
<3> :\
<2> read the manpage
<3> which one
<2> for the config file
<2> I'm not familiar with syslog-ng
<3> oh ok..
<8> Triskelios: they weren't registered on freenode
<8> that's the trick I forgot
<2> lesshaste: you need to unset a specific mode to allow them to message you
<8> Triskelios: They just need to register
<8> that's it
<8> you can't pm in freenode if you are not registered
<2> duh
<2> I just explained how to accept pms anyway
<3> whats wrong with this line in syslog-ng.conf
<3> log { source(kernsrc); filter(f_kern); destination(kern); };
<9> Hi.
<9> when i add users, how do I make it automatically set their home dir permissions to 711?
<9> or better asked; where do I set the default permissions for new users' home dirs?
<2> bjornh-: probably just uses the permissions on the skel dir..
<10> bjornh-: /etc/skel
<11> users
<11> how does one find binary executables via the find command?
<12> you can use the -perm option to find executables, can't figure out how to determine whether a file is binary or not
<13> anyone happes to know where are the options for creating a "quiet" kernel located?
<14> Skype is fudging my sound setup
<14> How can I release /dev/dsp for use?
<14> I have already quit skype
<2> fuser /dev/dsp
<2> check what's using it
<14> thanks
<2> fuser -k kills the process too, but you should check first
<14> THat's handy to know, Trisk, thanks.
<14> Unfortunately, it returned nothing.. so nothing seems to be using it right now
<14> Yet my sound is still fuXored
<14> Skype is so annoying... they need to set up ALSA support
<2> you can try aoss
<2> not sure if that works for input, though
<14> Yeah.. there is no package for FC5
<2> it's part of alsa-oss
<14> And I don't want to mess about with unreliable packages
<14> I know, tried that too
<14> My sound config is just screwed. Now when I try to play mp3s with mplayer, I check with fuser and it is NOT being used
<14> Furthermore, mplayer just sits there, not playing anything
<2> something might be using the alsa interface and your card doesn't do multiplexing
<2> lsof | grep /dev/snd
<14> It returns kmix
<14> and xmms
<14> Can I not have kmix open? How absurd is that?
<14> Ok, nothing is using /dev/snd now, but mplayer still wont play my mp3s
<14> I'll try xmms


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