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<0> google
<1> yo!
<2> I'll chec google
<0> :)
<0> no seriously, tldp.org is your friend
<3> Hey I am working on a bash script and need to know if the command "script" records stderr
<2> windowsrefund: what should roots paths be normally
<0> bsims, should be easy enough to test right?
<3> windowsrefund: well ya'd think
<3> hrm I suppose I could check
<0> script is so cool. Someone showed me that a few weeks ago
<0> up until then I'd have used screen's logging feature
<0> I think script is better suited though
<0> chuckyp, it should normally include /sbin
<3> windowsrefund: hrm exit 2 is error isn't it?
<4> bsims : most of the time anything other than 0 is error. but check the man page
<3> ananke: any idea on what to gargle (Ia Ia Google) for?
<4> often man pages include error codes
<0> n0yd|LinuxScratc, you're makin me feel guilty
<5> whys that?
<0> n0yd|LinuxScratc, I've been meaning to take another crack at LFS for some time now :)
<2> windowsrefund: looking at .bash_profile it has PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
<3> ananke: heh most of my GNU man pages are terse to the point of uselessness and say to read the info page which has the same info as the man page
<5> hehe, must've been the hardest thing i've yet to accomplish
<5> GTK is being a bitch right now
<2> windowsrefund: so i just add :/sbin on the end?
<4> bsims : true that :)
<0> chuckyp, you want to find some documentation. You'll really benefit from spending some time at tldp.org
<0> the howtos and guides
<2> I know I've used a lot od their docs before.
<5> windowsrefund: what happened last time with LFS?
<2> I just googled them for path
<0> n0yd|LFS, I ran out of patience I think
<0> but I really want to do it
<0> such a great learning tool
<5> haha, im about to do the same pretty soon here
<6> got a question, i just got home and seen my cpu usage is at 99% so i checked top and it says it is python. is there some way i can find out what it is doing? ps -A|grep python gives pid# ? time python, that is it
<5> and go back to Gentoo
<7> probably a rogue program, just kill it
<0> antihc3, I'd cat /proc/$pid/environ
<3> ananke: I am tempted to chain the GNU people to the desk and make them write proper docs... and then I am going to M$ hq and beat the lead programer to death with his own keyboard and shove a copy of K&R C up a random oriface of the first QA person I meet
<2> windowsrefund: alright consulting documentation root's path allegedly should only contain /bin like it does. So that trusted bins are included. Its saying everything else should be done by symlink
<0> what doc are you referring to?
<2> right now i'm reading through a bunch of documents about path
<0> not online?
<2> yes. searched for setting root's path
<2> on tldp.org
<0> please don't make me track down a legit document that shows how to properly set up root's environment
<0> this has been public knowledge for the last 20 years or so
<5> hehe
<2> I ***umed that since this is a fresh install of FC4 it would be setup properly from the get go.
<5> FC4 is about as far from proper as you can get
<2> But its not so now I have to waste countless hours searching for a document.
<0> nothing wrong with that ***umption
<2> I know its an evironmental variable and I know its set by .bash-profile for root and /etc/profile for users.
<0> chuckyp, it's not about how much time you (may) need to invest in order to solve this specific issues. It's more about developing the right kind of trouble-shooting skills in order to save yourself countless hours later
<2> I just need to know what else I need to add other than /sbin
<2> I don't understand why this is a linux help channel either
<0> chuckyp, right, and that information is on atleast 5 billion web sites
<0> the last time I checked
<0> it's a help channel, not a spoon-feed channel
<2> The reason I came here was to look here instead of the countless websites.
<2> I'm sorry for asking a stupid nub question
<0> I understand why you came here
<0> and I'm happy that you did
<0> I just wish you'd go to tldp.org and read something that covers this fundemental aspect of the operating system you're using
<2> Okay i'll go there
<0> give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.........
<0> and all that
<2> I've been there the whole time that i'm here and their collection of documents is huge so I'm wasting more time searching for more crap about path
<2> Instead of someone just telling me how to do it so I know in the future.
<0> ok
<0> I've got a question for you
<0> if I give you the answer, you'll be happy right?
<0> what happens when you want to change your ulimit values?
<0> and there's noone around to give you the quick fix?
<0> you'll be helpless
<8> damn, why does my / keep filling up, its baffling
<0> you need to learn how and where to look for information that is available
<2> Exactly and I figured a #linuxhelp channel would be the place but aparently not
<0> grepper, pr0n? :)
<0> chuckyp, I'm sorry you don't understand the point I'm making
<8> its 1.9 gigs and /usr /var/cache /home /usr/local /usr/src are all on their own partitions
<2> I understand your point you know how but I don't so instead of just ****ing telling me you are going to send me on two hour excursion through documents.
<8> none of the suspects like /var/log or /var/mail or /var/anything seem to be the culprits
<2> That I don't care about.
<0> grepper: cd /; du -sh | sort -n | head
<2> Right now all I care about is the path after that if it works I don't care to ever change anything so it doesn't matter.
<0> no
<0> grepper: cd /; du -s | sort -n | head
<8> already du'ed everything
<0> chuckyp, you're boring me
<8> no sense du'ing another filesystem
<5> chuckyp: maybe going back to windows will help :)
<8> I wonder if I've done something stupid like mounting the root device twice - dunno how that could have happened
<0> chuckyp, if you don't want to learn how to manage your operating system, install XP. I hear that little dog never tells you to read a manual
<0> not that I'd know
<5> i still run windows :(
<5> only on my htpc
<0> that stupid dog
<0> lol
<2> windowsrefund: it's not a matter of not wanting to learn its just right now at this point I don't care. Its a set topo box that I could care less if it has all sorts of errors.
<5> linux wasn't meant to be a multimedia system
<2> and descrepencies from the proper way.
<0> first time I saw that, I figured it would be only days until someone released an animated .gif that had the dog lift his leg and piss on a file or directory :)
<2> I've read multiple documents but the documents are even more stuck up then some linux users.
<7> n0yd|LFS, yet tons of people do it successfully...
<2> I don't understand a lot of this terminology ,
<2> here you want a good example.
<0> chucky, linuxnewbie.org
<2> www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.html#_root
<5> i didnt say it cant be done, i do multimedia stuff on my linux boxes besides my htpc
<2> look at that document and explain how the hell I would understand anything that says having never set path before.
<0> chuckyp, see hold on
<5> i was rather trying to hint to chuckyp that he should maybe give windows another chance :P
<0> chuckyp, had you SAID that you didn't understand the documentation you were reading, the proper question would have been "Can anyone point me to a resource that offers documentation geared for newbies?"
<0> chuckyp, and then you probably would have received some references
<0> chuckyp, but that's not how you approached it
<2> And your point at the proper documentation was tldp.
<0> based off what you were telling me....... yes
<2> which a search of root path what ever you want to type results in about 1 billion documents
<0> you need to learn how to ask the right question
<2> none of which are whta I want to do.
<2> Okay where do I find a document that explains how to set path for some one that has never done it before for ROOT?
<0> try linuxnewbies.org
<0> or linuxnewbie.org?
<2> linuxnewbie.org is not a document
<2> its a website
<0> really?
<5> no ****
<5> jesus christ
<0> damn
<0> OH
<0> I"M SORRY
<0> I'm supposed to go find the doc myself and then point you to it
<0> let me go do that righ tnow
<2> What r****ing document on linuxnewbie.org shows how to change roots path? Specifically how windowsrefund thinks path should be set?
<5> search around the site
<0> please be patient with me chuckyp
<2> for my specific problem?
<0> I'm searching for an answer for your specific problem
<2> here's a better question why is the path wrong in the first place? Its set from the install. Why am I changing anyh00t?
<0> I can only look for 1 answer at a time
<0> please bear with me
<0> I'm getting close
<0> I found it
<0> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
<5> chuckyp, http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/
<2> I give up you guys are just wasting my time.
<5> widnowsrefund, you should've just pointed him here: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html
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