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<0> Currently, I don't really bother with whatever charset my linux boxes use. Selecting utf8 in putty / konsole / screen / irssi works well
<1> Sonderblade: blame gentoo, utf8 should be used
<1> Aldaron: dd'ing zeroes and whatever is pointless, everything is pointless
<1> as RichiH already pointed out, either you do it properly or you just waste time
<2> depends on who you need to guard against, of course
<1> but actually, having some true source of randomness, 7 p***es like recommended by NSA seems sufficient to me to make recovery hard enough to not be worth (same principle of cryptography and long keys)
<2> it's 7 these days? /me thought 5
<3> stark : www.freshmeat.net, go search for keyword 'wipe'
<3> tons of software that does it, and much faster than /dev/urandom. if you're going to use /dev/random or urandom, it's faster to just take a chunk, then repeat it N of times
<1> with the same limitations in terms of security, tho
<0> spike: it might be useful to do it half-properly if you're for example selling a personal laptop or something. The buyer will probably check if you left your porn there but won't go through serious problem to recover it ;)
<0> spike, then again, I'd be rather happy with rm. Maybe zeroes once if I had more personal pr0n there ;)
<4> I'm trying to find any file modified in the last 24 hours but this isn't working "find ./ -mtime +1" or "find ./ -ctime +1"
<5> hi. is there a way i can record sound coming through the line-in on my sound card?
<6> I've got an rsync server running, and I just put my CPAN mirror behind it. For some reason, when I try to pull this module over, I get errors because the directories that are on CPAN (direct mirror) are 0711, and I can't read into them.
<6> Any idea how I can fix this, without having to change the dirs to 0755 after every hourly mirror?
<6> ah, ownership
<6> I was chrooting the tree
<7> hey guys whats entropy?
<3> stark : look it up in a dictionary
<3> and/or encyclopedia
<8> i wonder why he asks here :>
<7> TheBonsai: entropy/entropy pool/ /dev/unrandom
<8> stark: entropy is a mathematical term in this case. check math lexica
<2> TheBonsai: because he wants to erase his disk
<2> stark: you could be half finished, by now
<7> RichiH: heh, yes.
<7> RichiH: I just want to understand everything
<2> there is not much to understand. /dev/urandom will calculate pseudorandom bits and you put them onto your disk
<7> oh ok.. :) good
<2> and both entropy and pseudorandomness have good articles on wikipedia ;)
<7> urandom uses entropy regardless, whether there is any entropy or not, and uses pseudorandom to generate the numbers
<9> Hi all...
<9> I have a 1.5 Mhz Athalon with 512M memory and it locks up from time to time.
<9> It's locked up now and I've logged in from another PC to see if I can see why
<9> It had 3 instances of firefox running, and I shut those down, and it has OO running too but will leave that running for now
<9> X is running and it's consuming 99% CPU and 11.6% memory
<9> Would like to be able to recover from this lock-up without shutting down OO ...if there is any way to.
<9> The wife started a document last night, "Untitled1", and I'm quite sure she has not saved it.
<10> amrit|zzz wh***up
<10> usr13: just reboot the box. oo has document recovery
<9> I'm gonna be in deep dodo when she gets up.
<10> and tell your wife to save regularly
<10> seriously, just reboot and recover
<10> ive done it dozens of times
<10> ok, maybe not dozens, but like 7
<9> Does oo v1.1.4 have document recovery?
<9> _sho_ ?
<10> shrug
<10> is that an old or a new version of open office
<9> Well, it's not old, but it's not new
<10> then probably
<9> I have v1.9.10 on this machine.
<11> hey'all, i suppose there is no such thing as a universal solution to getting the desired keyboard setup on linux? i have a vague memory that theres like 8 differnt ways to do it
<11> i run ubuntu, and asked in that chan, but they are all wanking over the new dapper so theyre not really contactable
<9> _sho_ I'm pretty sure that older versions of OO do not have document recovery.
<9> (I just did a search for Untitled1 and did not find it.
<10> you dont search.
<10> open swriter
<10> when you open swriter, it will say something about a file left open
<9> swriter: command not found
<10> its in your open office path
<10> so wherever oo is, you will find swriter in that directory
<10> should be like /opt/openoffice/program/
<9> cd /opt/OpenOffice.org1.1.4/program/ and then swriter?
<10> yes
<9> switer: command not found
<9> swriter: command not found
<9> I just tried swriter on this machine and it just starts oo
<9> Is that what it's supposed to do?
<10> its supposed to start writer
<10> it should mention there was an unclosed file and ask if you want to recover it
<9> swriter: command not found
<10> <9> I just tried swriter on this machine and it just starts oo
<9> I don't think v1.1.4 has document recovery.
<10> either you found it and it started open office, or you didnt find it
<9> I just tried swriter on _this_ machine and it just starts oo
<9> I am on my slackbox, the redhatbox is the one that is locked up
<9> I have a secure shell session into the redhatbox and
<9> it says: swriter: command not found
<10> you have to specifically go to the directory where it was installed
<10> do a locate swriter
<12> provided he has an updated file search database thingie :P
<9> Ok, I'll try that. But need to reboot first?
<10> whats locked up, open office or the whole machine
<9> how can I restart X
<10> ctrl-alt-f1
<9> The machine is locked up
<10> log in as root
<10> telinit 3; telinit 5
<9> I can log in via ssh
<10> whats the load like
<10> you can find that in the output of w
<9> but if I go to the machine, there is no response from keyboard or mousse.
<9> 12785 root 25 0 200M 58M 776 R 99.5 11.6 531:18 0 X
<10> via ssh, its log in, su root, telinit 3; telinit 5
<10> no, not ps
<10> w
<10> very first line
<9> 07:32:15 up 8 days, 9:50, 3 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00
<10> load is low
<10> yeah, telinit 3 as root
<9> # telnet 3
<9> telnet: 3: Name or service not known
<9> 3: Unknown host
<10> look what you typed. look what i typed
<9> and show w again?
<9> 07:34:49 up 8 days, 9:53, 2 users, load average: 1.40, 1.09, 1.03
<10> no, telinit 3 put it at cli only
<10> it shut x down
<9> o
<10> go check the box, see if you have a screen now
<10> itll just be a login prompt
<9> still locked up
<9> still showing oo on the screen
<10> so x never shut down?
<9> ]# runlevel
<9> 5 3
<10> kill -15 xinit
<9> ps -aux |grep X
<9> root 12785 12.8 11.6 210484 59780 ? RL May29 536:16 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth vt7
<10> sorry, killall -15 xinit
<9> killall -15 xinit
<9> xinit: no process killed
<10> you use startx to start x?
<10> or you using a kdm or something
<9> kdm or gdm
<9> probably kdm
<10> hmm.
<10> killall -15 X then
<10> but thats less advised
<10> after it kills, telinit 3
<10> and you run gdm from your string above
<9> # killall -9 X
<9> X: no process killed
<9> (-15 did not work)
<9> I've killed X
<10> then telinit 3 and wait for it to shut everything down
<10> once its all down, telinit 5
<9> # telinit 3 does not work...???
<9> # runlevel
<10> does not work how
<9> 5 3
<9> just tried again
<9> still not working
<9> It's apparrently still in runlevel 5
<10> runlevel is specific to whatever you are doing. i have no clue what it is or what it does
<10> runlevel here on my rhes box says N 3
<10> do who -r
<9> I just gave command: telinit 5 and it's starting KDE again
<10> before you did that, did you do who -r?
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