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<0> yeah it's intel
<1> SuSE is the best distro for newbies afaiac
<0> I tried ubuntu about half a year ago and gave me a headache
<1> Try SuSE.
<1> Ubuntu is ****ty.
<0> Alright
<0> It didn't detect that my monitor was capable of 85 hz, and that option wasn't available, so I spent 2-3 hours in eye bleeding 60 hz trying to find some obscure configuration file to manually change it to some values I found for my monitor online :P
<1> Xorg -configure
<2> i just looked at ubuntu's home page for the first time....i would never install that on my box
<0> BUT THE PEOPLE ARE HUGGING
<2> thats what im saying
<2> its like a walmart commercial
<3> *group hug*
<3> there now you are part of the ubuntu home page



<3> :p
<3> oh and just so you know the basis of linux is that
<3> err rather any Floss
<3> not just linux
<4> hello
<4> dont understand nohup
<5> I have a dual head system running X using separate frame buffers (non-Xinerama), meaning windows can't be moved from one screen to the other. Is there any way to suspend an application, and restart it on the other head?
<4> i thought it was supposed to allow user to close a consol, and keep opened program on
<6> Fser: screen is better for that
<5> Fser: did you run your program in the background using & ?
<4> hubick, let me try again
<4> hubick, doesnt work either
<4> EdLin, my debian doesnt know screen command
<6> Fser: apt-get install screen
<4> i've tryed nohup at school with mandrake, and that works.fear :)
<4> i'm doing it :p
<5> "nohup gftp &" keeps it from closing when i kill my console
<7> hubick have you tried running it from a screen console?
<5> i don't use screen
<5> but nohup works for me there
<5> Fser: you are going "nohup <program> &" ?
<4> yes
<1> # chown infinitus:users *
<1> chown: invalid option -- l
<1> Try `chown --help' for more information.
<1> wtf?
<4> screen works for me ... trying nohup again
<6> infinitus: does one of the files start with a dash?
<1> oh maybe yah.
<8> I like screen, prefer twin thoug.
<4> nohup has just worked to ...
<4> i've tryed links2 and gaim
<4> works with gaim
<5> shogunx: oh, i think you were answering my question, not helping Fser .... i could try screen... but i have already run this irc without screen :)
<8> ahhh.
<4> breakfeast time for me
<4> thanks for helping :)
<6> Viking667: I've never run twin, what makes it better than screen?
<8> EdLin: fully movable windows.
<9> off
<8> no weird keystrokes to have to remember, as you define those yourself.
<10> why did you hide the channel ? :)
<8> EdLin: well, I like it, anyhow. It's got warts, and some bad warts, but I can live with those.
<6> Viking667: I rarely use movable windows, the definable keystrokes sound like a good feature though
<8> EdLin: well, I can create another window at the press of <Alt-Pgup> (like screen's C-a C-C
<6> Viking667: just one user-definable keystroke, that sounds good.
<6> Viking667: what are the warts you refered to?
<8> well, you define any of the keystrokes you want, to bind to behaviour you want, mostly.
<11> hellow world
<8> ever done a menu for mwm or fvwm?
<6> Viking667: I mostly let Debian do that for me. :-)
<8> the menu syntax is anal. You define it exactly precisely, or you don't get twin to work like you want.
<8> One of the GREAT things is: there is a console client (fb) and two GUI clients (x or gfx)
<8> so you can run a twin in console, and see that same twin in X as well in a window
<8> that's the way I'm running it now, in fact.
<10> has anyone tethered a CDMA phone before ?
<8> that way, if I start an X program, and if X dies for any reason, I still have all my console stuff running.
<6> Viking667: the same thing is true of screen of course
<6> Viking667: I'm getting twin now and will give it a try.



<8> correct, only, you have to start an xterm to get to see the screen from within X
<8> EdLin: if you can get the 0.5.1 version, do so.
<6> I have 0.4.0
<8> EdLin: also, these windows are FULLY independent. not just horizonnal splits
<8> EdLin: get a later one. 0.5.1 is much better.
<12> should i set my server so root cant log in via ssh or telnet and only users can?
<12> or is that not necessary with ssh?
<13> tobmoox: most distros default to disabling root logins
<12> even over ssh?
<8> tobmoox: you need to tell sshd not to allow root logins. Users can still of course "su -" if they have the root p***word.
<13> yes
<12> k
<8> If the distro install sshd, go check for yourself.
<12> its probably in securetty right?
<8> huh? no.
<12> o
<6> tobmoox: ssh allows root login by default in Debian :-( You should check to see if it's enabled.
<8> sshd doesn't have anything to do with securetty
<12> its enabled on my slack box
<8> tobmoox: go look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
<12> kk
<8> Time I went. Night, all.
<2> hmmm coffee
<12> hm so whats the point of securetty? just to specify root logins over telnet?
<14> hello, if there is nothing in my /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ does that mean i have incorrectly configured my kernel?
<2> pretty much...it was from before ssh
<12> o ok
<2> therea are alot of things in unix/linux/posix that could be made better, but they just stay the way they are for compatibilities sake....like dos/windows
<14> am i correct to ***ume that since I have a pentium m centrino laptop, i should have temp sensors?
<12> windows loses more security when they do that though :)
<4> has somebody allready install raid0 using asus a8n motherboard ?
<2> i didnt think they had any to lose ;)
<10> hehe
<4> reboot x server
<15> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/aWXA6f66.html <---xgl fails with reason! No idea why though.
<4> back
<15> Hm.
<16> morn
<15> Morning.
<15> Bah.
<15> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/aWXA6f66.html ,_,
<16> i tried glxgears last night, i got tween 50-100 fps
<15> lol
<16> dont laf, it's a target
<16> i have a small box here on that scale
<15> :o
<2> thats almost as good as the wang chung video that sends epileptics into seizures ;)
<16> which video is that?
<16> remind me
<2> everybody have fun tonight....everybody wang chung tonight
<16> i remember the words, but not the vid
<2> they cut the video so the people switched locations in the room at an extremely annoying rate
<16> k
<2> and it reportedly sent some epileptics into seizures
<2> because it caused the brain to switch at some critical rate
<2> it was like 3 or 4 stop motion edits interweaved together
<16> what's the word
<16> 3 flashes/s
<2> Quiznos, http://www.wangchung.com/archive/wc/videos/ehft.shtml
<17> I am having an annoying problem, I have my sound driver emu10k1 built into the kernel, sound is working properly, I am using /etc/init.d/alsasound to save and restore mixer levels, but whenever it starts it tries to load alsa modules and outputs these errors to screen "WARNING: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.16-gentoo-r7/alsa-driver/acore/snd.ko): Invalid module format" any ideas?
<16> cant do vudeo yet, ty
<2> "It's reported that this music video was actually banned in England, over fears that it might induce epileptic seizures in the television viewing m***es"
<16> fear sux
<16> that's parens patria for you
<16> the state is the parent
<16> it is the height of arrogance on govt (people's) part
<2> anyway...you dont remember the video...so you didnt get the joke ;)
<16> well i got the point
<2> yes..government people are arrogant.....they answer to noone and they think they are saving us from ourselves
<16> but they can be amde to answer to us
<16> made
<2> they live in a constant state of denial....and are in need of m*** qty's of therapy
<18> if you wnat to see something that will give you seizures, I think I have it
<16> heh


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