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<0> MrNaz: Are you watching the discussion in the channel? Look in /proc or /sys
<1> Dagmar: which is why i'm trying to find out the difference
<1> Dagmar: :)
<2> or whatever device id it starts on
<0> litage: One is short the other is thin
<3> Dagmar i am.... i tried doing cat /dev/sdb but that throws alot of data onto the screen and hangs the system
<1> thanks Dagmar
<0> half height cards are literally half as tall as usual. They're usually put into 1U cases
<0> Half-length ones I don't know where they'd go
<0> Never seen a need for that
<2> mancdaz, i probably shouldn't be boozing it up while in a linux help channel.
<0> PCI is already really short
<1> Dagmar: 1U or 2U? i thought you usually use a riser card in 1Us
<2> MrNaz, i think you're damaged.
<3> litecode me? personally?
<0> litage: Most of the ones I've seen that were 1U the card went in sideways
<0> 1U is *really* cramped for space inside
<1> Dagmar: "sideways" as in parallel to the mobo?
<0> Yeah
<1> thanks
<0> Riser card and skinny
<2> MrNaz, you will read the actual device starting at block 0 if you cat /dev/sdb
<1> Dagmar: skinny?
<0> Skinny, as in not stout.
<1> hah
<3> litecode / Dagmar just for laughs... this is my server: 1ru http://www.mrnaz.com/?mode=photos&disp=browse&albumid=29
<2> MrNaz, use lsscsi or type cat /sys/bus/scsi/devices/*/model
<0> No X at the moment here. working on X7
<2> Dagmar, whats the geekboner points of X7?
<2> other that the modulization
<0> ***XGL PORN***
<2> rock on
<0> I gotta gotta have windows that jiggle like warm cheese when I move 'em
<2> no kidding
<2> and they go all squirelly when you close them right?
<0> I don't know.
<2> i saw those vids of some gl implementation.
<0> I'm hoping I can figure out how to make them do things of my own devising
<2> i was like... ewww wasting cpu cycles has never been more mac'isized
<0> Ah but that's the beauty of it
<4> Dagmar: I can't find it anywhere ?
<0> They're not CPU cycles you're wasting
<2> Dagmar, ipmlement some kind of AI have them do things they want to.
<0> It's GPU cycles that would otherwise never even be used
<2> Dagmar, fine. gpu cycles ;)
<5> uhm... where can i read more on how to use the stdin option? i tried p***wd yoko --stdin < echo "ono" but that obviously didnt cut it
<2> SyberSol, you probably mean echo "myp***" | p***wd yoko --stdin
<5> oh, it needs to be before? what is the < operator for then ?
<2> file redirection
<0> babo: If you can't then there's no helping you. You should probably take up knitting
<5> hm aaahh .. ok .. it always has to be a file ....
<2> echo "boobs" > porn; p***wd yoko --stdin < porn
<5> well thanks
<2> no problem.
<6> sybariten: echo "$ans" | ( p***wd --stdin wsa${us} ) > /dev/null 2>&1
<6> sybariten: in that example the variable $ans contains the new p***word.
<0> I have to Google that guide myself at least once a month, specifically to remember how to do reading from external files. I *know damn well* it's there
<5> bronze: ok .. but in what stage is it fed into ans ?
<6> sybariten: In that script ans is a regular shell variable and can be set anytime you want.
<6> sybariten: note the "wsa${us}" is a user name.
<5> ok why then the extra bling bling with the wsa-thing, the parentheses and the output to dev null ?
<6> sybariten: Where are your new p***wds?
<4> Dagmar: knitting ... screw that - I don't need to ... I'm still wearing the sweater your mom gave me for christmas
<5> bronze they are gonna be the same each time actually, they could be in the script file or somethign .... or i could maybe call this script with two variables?
<5> (i am changing the PW of root + another user)
<4> Dagmar: only joking dude, thanks for the help anyway though ;-)
<5> bronze: why ?
<6> sybariten: Yes you can call the scripts with two variables.
<6> sybariten: if your script changes root p***wd to something you weren't expecting you will have to doi a hardware shutdown and boot to single user to recover (unless you havea root shell running on the system somewhee when it happens)
<4> \quit
<2> bronze: heh, if his init doesn't require a p***word for single or emergency ;)
<5> bronze: oh, well this is run off a CDr ... its not critical really, i reboot that machine every now and then
<5> but thanks for your concern
<6> litecode: Yeah, the you have to move the dribe to another system and edit the p***wd /shadow files
<6> sybariten: Aha, good then. I was a leetle worried.. :)
<2> bronze: gotta love those days.
<6> litecode: oh yeah... :)
<6> litecode: whats a "dribe" ?
<5> however that whole wsa thing does mesmerize me (as always, when i dont understand zip jack squat turd) .... or, to be precise, i am mainly disturbed by those parenthesis ... what are they necessary for ?
<2> bronze: i imagine you're miss of v :P
<5> why wouldnt echo "$ans" | p***wd --stdin wsa${us} > /dev/null 2>&1 work ?
<2> bronze: i'd just boot a removable media :P
<2> or use my leet hax0r skills to stare the p***word into submission.
<6> sybariten: replace the "wsa${us}" with the user name. (I was changing multiple user p***word in a loop and they all started with wsa)
<6> litecode: ooo, staring. cool. very leet.
<2> yah.. hidden talent.
<6> sybariten: I'm not sure. It might. I just grabbed a line of code from an old script.
<5> oh ok
<7> how does a livecd work ? is it possible to write into a file ?
<2> god this conversation is going down hill quickly.
<5> jazzanova_: generally, no
<0> Someone please teach me to read
<2> jazzanova_, you can mount a tmpfs and write there :P
<5> jazzanova_: you could write to the HD though, if you have one ... or to a USB memory
<7> sybariten: so what happens when syslog wants to write into logfile ?
<7> in /var
<5> jazzanova__: hm, how do you mean ... logs that normally appear in a *nix system ?
<7> yes.
<5> uhm, its all sort of fake mounted into RAM i think
<5> linux doesnt see that though .... but ... it gets written allright. But you wont have it there after a reboot.
<0> ie... tmpfs
<7> i want to have livecd share a directory over nfs, for some oter system to be used as nfsroot.
<2> jazzanova_, usually you mount var, tmp, and /home on tmpfs on a livecd.
<2> similiar to how high security systems mount /usr and / as read only, you're usr and / would be read only
<7> ah, isee.
<0> If you're already going to be risking the p***words on the command line (which means they're viewable via ps!) you might as well just use usermod
<8> hiyas
<0> ...but I still say it's easier to just use perl
<2> Dagmar, i think they are trying to avoid the crypt call
<0> I'll betcha someone's got a CPAN module to just make it a function call
<5> Dagmar: hm, i dont know the idea behind usermod
<0> litecode: They shouldn't be afraid of crypt
<2> You should be.
<5> if you were suggesting to me
<2> very, very very very... okay i stop now.
<0> sybariten: `usermod`. It will tell you
<7> so machine is A is a livecd, and machine B nfsboots from A:/rootfs_for_B
<0> ...as in usermod -u uid -p p***wd
<2> note: and p***wd has to be encrypted already.
<0> Oh, forgot about that
<0> USE PERL ALREADY
<5> Dagmar: yeah but ... ok, it can appearently change the PW for users .... well... so does p***wd ?
<0> I'll reboot into something with a GUI and look at CPAN. By now someone's probably made a Shadow.pm
<2> Dagmar, or python!
<9> to correctly intall eclipse is it yum install eclipse-pde-devel or something else
<2> sorry, just trying to complicate things.
<8> mmm python
<0> sybariten: scribbledy shell scripts are never very easy to fix when they break
<0> Perl code tends to run everywhere you throw it
<2> q_w_e, yay for programming languages gone buzzword.
<2> *scripting
<5> mhmm ? this is gonna be a very very basic shell script
<0> If it were that basic, you would be done with it by now, or you've padded the hell out of your resume
<5> you've read it ?
<2> mind melded with it
<8> if my machine is READING from a RAID 1 (mirroring) array will it just read from the first disk in the array?
<5> its kind of american, yes ... but arent they all
<7> I have rightnow tmpfs mounted on / (a computer that I nfsbooted). What does this mean ? How does it work. ?
<2> q_w_e: raid 1 uses striped reads :P
<5> plus i dont think straight at this hour .... thats my e
<5> xcuse
<8> litecode: thats raid0 ?
<5> but, perl ... nah ... i prefer python too ...
<2> q_w_e: raid0 is linear
<10> cd #xmms
<2> byte 1 -> drive1 byte2 -> drive2
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