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<0> unless you install ubunutu and run fluxbox on a slower laptop
<1> defcon8: I wish I could remember exactly. I read an article about it a few weeks ago.
<2> what about e17?
<1> e17 uses a non-standard widget set
<3> maqu1na, that segfaults on ubuntu :(
<2> well, its still like early alpha :P
<2> but i have found it to be very good on my fedora boxes
<1> I wish KDE had a version done in GTK+
<1> eventually they will have to find some way to integrate it because most of the better programs (GAIM, Inkscape, OpenOffice) use GTK+. and that GTK-QT theme doesn't work all that great
<0> why
<0> kde in gtk would be horrible imho
<2> i agree Ringwraith`
<0> some signalling integration would be nice tho
<2> dbus?
<0> well does dbus handle application communication
<0> like signal emitting and such
<0> im talking about qt's signals/slots stuff and gnomes whatever ****ty implementation of it
<1> is there an app to port a GTK+ theme to QT?
<0> probably a lot of ****ing c callbacks
<1> Ringwraith`: actually GTK using C++ is great. Better approach at objects than QT. it just came out too late and now Mono is gaining on it
<2> i remember reading about someone using the event loop of one in the other
<2> http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/qtgtk/main.html
<4> what's the opposite of basename?
<4> that returns the directory the file is in...
<2> i think mono is great actually
<0> pathname?
<4> no
<4> dirname
<4> heh
<5> Aye, 3 weeks, 4 tabs... new record for an instance of FF
<2> PeterFA, FF seems to randomly start consuming cpu after a while, for some reason, whenever i leave it open for long stretches of time
<6> linux security camera app?
<4> PeterFA, heh
<4> PeterFA, what's your uptime?
<1> I use Konq for my browsing. I like the integration it provides too
<4> maqu1na, for me as well that happens
<5> oopse
<5> 22:04:06 up 17 days, 5:34, 6 users, load average: 0.59, 0.77, 0.71
<5> Ok, not three weeks.
<5> I thought it was.
<4> heh
<7> you guys know analog is better than digital
<4> yes
<4> analog rules
<4> no DRM in analog
<7> praise analog
<2> didnt everyone know that?
<8> yes infinitus, we know
<4> analog is easier to hack too.
<5> Analog has potentially infinite quality.
<5> But, it's really easy to corrupt.
<8> analog is just better to begin with, forget about the 'possabilities'
<4> what about that noise-based-encryption
<4> that was easier and simpler than, but does the same as quantum encryption
<5> X seems to never need rebooting, always as snappy as when I first boot
<5> Ah, Linux... I don't reboot, it doesn't get sluggish, why do they say Windows is better/
<5> ??
<2> beats me, i have a windows box that i have to reboot every other day cause it gets sluggish otherwise
<8> PeterFA: because you can look striaght through it while it doesn't move.
<9> So, I'm running a home business and I want to offer a messanger service ... kinda like the thing that comes with gmail. What's the best and most open on out there ? I want it to run independent of what website I happen to be on at the time. Do I have to run four or five different messanger services ... ?
<8> babo: what do you mean exactly? you want one client for multiple services, or you want a server that people can connect to?
<9> tonsofpcs: hmm ... I dunno, I just want people to be able to message me. I guess I could run a service on my server if there were advantages to doing that, but it might only get used once a day ...
<10> how can I find what process is hogging my sound card?
<8> babo: I use gaim with accounts on all of the major messaging services
<9> is gaim better than jabber ?
<8> gaim is a multi-protocol client
<10> gaim includes jabber.
<8> it supports the jabber protocol as well as many others
<8> (AIM, ICQ [same as AIM really], Y!, MSN, SILC, IRC, etc.)
<9> ok cool thanks I'll have a look at jabber ...
<10> :\
<8> ....
<8> so you came to ask about things and suggested one to yourself, good job ;)
<10> babo: ?
<11> heh. i don't think i fully understand just what he was after
<9> konrad``, ??
<10> nevermidn then
<8> AzianFlu: he wants to be reachable by a large customer base
<11> independent of the website he happens to be on?? things like that statement confused me
<9> konrad``, oh, sorry I missed your post ... basically what tonsofpcs said ...
<11> i couldn't tell if he was looking for an all-in-one client, or a specific service, or what
<9> AzianFlu: well, the gmail service just runs when I'm on my gmail account right ?
<11> i actually thought at first that he wanted to offer his *own* service
<11> no
<8> AzianFlu: I did too, but read what I asked and his reply
<11> ah. i had stepped away and missed that
<12> lol
<9> tonsofpcs: no, someone suggested jabber on another channel ...
<11> doh
<8> babo: I strongly suggest you get one client that supports multiple protocols and get accounts set up with the major instant messaging providers (AIM, Y!, MSN, ICQ, ...)
<9> tonsofpcs: ok, that sounds like a good idea ... first I'm going to install dapper, then I'll get gaim ... :-) .. thanks
<11> that is probably a very wise suggestion since you want to communicate with clients. you don't want to force them to use a service they might not like
<9> so if I was to click on a messanger link on someones website ... and I only have gmail and irc as messanger services. What exactly would happen ? ... sorry for the newbie questions ... I'm clueless about messanger services ...
<8> you don't usually use links to messengers, you use screen-/user- names
<9> So I can use my gmail messanger service then, without logging into gmail ?
<8> people with links usually just have a link to a proprietary protocol header that the windows clients hack into the parsing of (not exactly, but close enough to explain it) and load it
<8> babo: yes
<9> tonsfpcs: cool, like skype and the callto: link ...
<8> and those links are usually human decipherable (like aim://screenname )
<8> gtalk setup for gaim: http://www.system7designs.com/blog/configure-gaim-for-googletalk/
<13> what file do i create in etc to make a shell alias? (i want to make ll = ls -l)
<11> alias ll="ls -l"
<11> oh
<14> my gui ide has made me stupid
<11> heh. i cheat and generally put it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
<11> or ==
<9> tonsofpcs: ok thanks ...
<15> qweqweqwe: /etc/bash.bashrc ?
<15> if you are using bash...
<16> qweqweqwe: What shell are you on?
<17> ive got a challenge for you guys
<17> i recently purchased a penguin computing blade server
<14> as if we arent challenged already
<17> heh
<13> bash
<17> im trying to boot off the ide channel to a linux hard drive
<17> hard drive im currently booted to to talk to you guys in fact (however its currently in a different system)
<9> does anyone know how secure exactly those subscription guards offered by domain registrars are ? I mean how easy/hard is it for someone to find out the real registrar .. ?
<17> anyway, it was working fine then suddenly i cant boot to it any more in the blade
<18> hi all! Is there a way to find all files whose modification date is between a.b.c. and x.y.z ?
<9> s/registrar/registrant/
<11> babo, farly good. i have one secured, and when i do a whois against it, it displays a mock company
<11> TravisBarker, that seems pretty odd.
<9> AzianFlu: so what do people need to find out the real one then ? A warrant ? ... or is the registrar company still obliged to give out the real details if asked ...
<11> what kind of errors or odd activity do you get when you boot it in the blade?
<11> babo, i don't know anything more detailed than that, but i am certain you could find that kind of information from a retailers website, such as godaddy.com
<9> I'm not a spammer or anything like that, but I do want to know how secure the thing is ...
<9> AzianFlu, ok cool thanks ...
<11> yw
<7> anybody in here that can help me write a perl script?
<19> anyone here familiar with multiseat usage of Xorg 7.x ?
<19> having a few oddities
<7> hey samuel
<7> whoops.
<7> I meant hey Samus_Aran
<19> infinitus: allo
<7> Long time no speak.
<7> You married now man?
<19> yes. we're back in Vancouver now
<7> wow awesome congrats man.
<19> your nickname lost its capital I
<20> Just that arch doesn't allow caps in the usernames.
<20> So xchat uses the default username for me to connect with.
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