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<0> lgp-michael i dun mind, but I believe your comment to be off the cuff and not minfdully considered
<0> lgp-michael a loop is not overhead
<1> Quiznos: Ive been coding in C for 16 years, its overhead
<0> hardly
<2> well he's got a point though. considering whether a function could benefit from infinite arguments upon making each function might cause you to write more flexible code
<0> it also allows one to take advantage of lazy eval in c
<0> Accius that's one, yes
<1> its worth doing in functions that need it - but why on earth do it on the 99.9% of functions that dont
<0> lgp-michael you're not digesting all that i wrote
<0> (void), (int n), or, (type **argv)
<0> that is, void, wholevar or list
<0> qweqweqwe switch to another
<1> oh hold on, you dont mean have ALL functions of type function(...)
<0> lgp-michael right
<3> another what?
<0> dist
<2> qweqweqwe, why do you need to install it again? O_o
<3> what wrong with gentoo64 (drools)
<1> ok, well, thats less unrealistic, cos type ... *is* a m***ive overhead when yoy dont need it
<0> qweqweqwe nuttin if you have the bit width
<3> Accius: i uninstalled it and went back to my old fc4 because no time to migrate databases etc.
<3> Quiznos: that's the boring bit lol
<2> oh that makes sense
<0> lgp-michael yes, i'm not suggesting get rid of type, BUT a side-effect of an argv might be to lose RTTI
<0> qweqweqwe ok ;)
<2> so you have the time to migrate them now? :-)
<4> is there anyway to view (in human readable form) the content of a SO file (extention function)?
<0> Accius what i'm writing is to plant a seed that you readers will contemplate
<0> already lgp-michael is
<0> and that's the point, to consider it
<3> and unpacking the stage tarball takes ages also
<0> C can sing and dance and do dishes
<3> oops spoke too soon, fini
<0> this idear is just a big pot.
<0> it's highly flexible.
<2> lol Quiznos you've already gotten me thinking, and I'm thinking a lot more functions *could* benefit from infinite argument capability, in some circumstances
<2> and I'm thinking I'll be doing that more often :P
<0> cool
<0> btw, the idea is NOT mine, i got it from Backus.
<0> </credit>
<0> and a programming lang book i have
<2> ::curious:: do you guys prefer C or C++?
<1> Accius: C - I understand c++ but I dont like it
<0> lgp-michael ok, but dont interchange "flexibility" for "portability", they arent the same thing
<0> ie, GNU writes portable bloatness
<1> no I know
<0> thats ewil
<1> heh
<2> I tend to prefer c++ myself
<0> to each his own for lang
<2> I used to use C, and then there were some things that I was like "man I wish C could do /this/, it would make things easier"
<0> ok, right tool for the job always.
<5> I like hammers, but I prefer angle grinders
<2> after reading a teeny bit about writing one's own language, I found out that C++ did those very things :P
<0> and besides, in c++ code, you dont need to use all its features
<0> good
<0> ben
<5> you can't decide whether you like C++ until you've been using it all day for about 5 years
<0> heh
<0> i dont c++
<2> three doesn't count? :-(
<5> probably not :P
<6> LOL. "take all the time you need. as long as you're back in five minutes."
<2> well, I'm halfway there :P so far C++ has been the best thing since peanut butter
<1> Accius: I dont like c++ on the basis that you have to be thinking along the same lines as the original programmer to understand the code at a glance, cos either you have to examine EVERYTHING or you have to accept you dont know for sure what its doing. For example: You have a user defined string type. Then you have an instance of that, say X and you do: x+1 now does x+1 mean "string1" or "ring" or strinh
<0> Accius heh
<1> you dont know till you check how theyve overloaded the operator
<5> Accius: do you get to use exceptions?
<2> lol lgp-michael, that's a valid reason not to like it
<1> I do like a lot of the way c=+ does some things and I do those in C when needed
<5> lgp-michael: and in C, if you do mystrcat(a, b), how do you know if it'll give '12' or '3' ?
<2> I guess I like c++ because usually I only have to read my own code :-\ not much experience with others' yet
<1> rikkus: you dont, but at least you know its doing something user defined, whereas in c++ the + operator you dont know if it is or not, and you can end up hunting for it and it isnt there at all
<0> <EOF>
<0> ZZ
<2> has anyone tried lisp?
<7> i'm trying to get baghira to work on this suse box ( having a difficult time with it )
<0> Accius i read, not write it
<7> baghira worked fabulously in the slackware box
<2> I've never tried it, but it sounds really interesting
<2> wondered what it was good for
<0> Accius i focus on implementation and capabilities
<0> Accius to do what? those two things are the bread but you're not naming the meat, its porpose
<2> in general, quiznos. they're just the things I spend the most time on whenever I make anything.
<0> k
<2> questions: How will the objects interact to do the job, and How will the user use the program
<2> are usually what I draw an outline from
<5> Has anyone seen something like del.icio.us, without the social bit, and installable on Linux?
<5> I just want to store my bookmarks on my web server
<0> not i
<0> oh
<2> shoot my cracking program is gone
<5> ah, 'sitebar' might be one
<0> check freshmeat
<5> just did... there seem to be a couple. I'd forgotten freshmeat existed
<2> has anyone here had problems using deadkeys in openoffice btw?
<0> i dont OOrg
<2> what else is there to use?
<8> vim
<2> I can't use it for spanish or french or german because the stupid deadkeys won't work
<2> somehow "vim" doesn't sound like an office suite :P
<8> sure it is
<9> rather gvim
<8> type "vim" in your terminal, press enter and be amazed
<2> lol rob
<8> gah, gvim
<9> doesn't have vi too ?
<2> I never installed vi, so I don't see why I would have it
<9> lfs ?
<8> depends on your distro, it might already be
<2> gentoo ;-)
<9> don't know about that fscking distro
<9> I might want to try gentoo
<9> every other ppl is using it :(
<8> heh
<2> takes a bit to install it, but I like it
<9> I feel ashamed
<8> I had it on my lappy, hated it
<2> the other ones just *broke*. I tried Kubuntu, and out of *nowhere*, Administrator Mode stopped working.
<8> wasn't hard, just annoying to update gentoo on a laptop
<2> one day it just started giving me a gl***-breaking sound whenever I hit the button in KDE. disgusting.
<2> fedora might be a good distro for a laptop, but I dunno
<10> anybody know why my kernel config would not include /proc/sys ?
<8> I have Kubuntu on it
<9> finallly found out that psmouse module is not loaded by default
<2> nobody knows what to do about OOrg deadkeys then? :-(
<9> apart from editing a resume, I do't use much OO
<2> I use it to write plenty of documents, and I write in other languages a lot, so I *sooort* of need ?cc?nt m?rks and s?ch
<11> Howdy folks. I'm using the BCM43xx drivers on my Fedora5 laptop for my broadcom wireless card, and it seems to be working correctly. I can connect to my home network and Network Configuration recognizes the card as wireless on eth1, however, NetworkManager thinks the wireless connection is wired, so it doesn't allow me to search for wireless APs, etc. Any way to fix this?
<0> how do i tell sed to rm ^z chars?
<3> omg this is just one big download fest. imagine an online gentoo install fest aarrggg
<0> true #wifi
<0> try
<2> lol qweqweqwe :P
<0> heh
<0> how do i tell sed to rm ^z chars?
<0> heh
<2> I stared at KDE and its dependencies emerging
<2> B)
<12> does anybody know the if definitions used in Makefile ?
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