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<0> chemaj: That's my problem, I don't know if there's a tuning reason to do differently, or if it's just for robustness, or maybe for different max sizes or something. Like maybe it only allows 64k of extents, so at 4Mb extents that's 262Gb, but with 16Mb extents it's 1Tb, etc...
<1> ugh very sorry
<2> diamon: i ***ume you've trawled the doco/website/maillists?
<3> I prefer to blame Communism.
<0> chemaja: As much as I can, though not the lists. There's tons of data out there about the 'what' for options, but not the 'max' or 'why'. Not a biggy, I'll live without knowing.
<0> Though I suppose I'll have to look and see if there's anything on 'defragmenting' extents, if I treat LVM like a SAN's allocation, I get a pretty good performance hit once the filesystem is smeared around a bit, all I can do at that point is merge the filesystem off the affected device to a clean disk and then back. Kind of like the old defrag-by-backup-and-restore for files.
<2> diamon: i have a feeling there'd be discussions about this kind of thing in the list archives: if not user, then dev. good luck :)
<2> diamon: i'm no LVM guru
<0> chemaja: Probably, it's just usually hard to search mailing lists. most don't have any actual search function, so I have to index it manually...
<4> i got my xbindkeys workin.. with S1 S2
<4> but wont work with FN lol
<2> diamon: try the web-based archives; some are half-decent.
<0> Any suggestions on a decent one?
<2> i tend to use: http://www.mail-archive.com/ http://gmane.org/
<2> but there's others.
<4> kk im goin crazy 0.o
<4> xbindkeys works! but doesnt tell the diff between S1 and S2 and can see my FN keys(they are done through /dev/sonypi
<4> is there any programs that will elt me make scripts to run off a efined dev item
<4> i wanted to just make my own.... but i went crazy not being able to run /dev/sonypi(well ic an open but not read it)
<5> moin
<0> Hmmm, nothing for LVM so far. Aha, MARC has a list!
<2> diamon: :-)
<0> Mmm, grazing on the luscious data in the mailing list...
<0> Though reading this list it's amazing how many folks don't read the docs ever... Half a dozen comments on how to work past a problem created by using a bad partition type, and no comments about maybe they might want to use the right partition ID... Arrgh.
<3> diamon: Why do you think we're so hard on fools who refuse to read here?
<3> Those are people who know better than to come on IRC with that kind of laziness
<0> Dagmar: Heh, you won't catch me wondering! When you guys come down on someone with both boots, I'll hop on your shoulders to add weight! :)
<2> yes, unix zen and ability to use self-help resources go hand-in-hand ;-)
<6> hello
<0> And a quick reading of the problems that LVM has doing stripes and mirroring makes me sure I won't use LVM for that. :) I'm hoping to eventually puzzle out how to make LVM and iSCSI play nice and pretend to be a SAN for me, to make my life easier.
<0> THough I did find some info on defragging a PV's extents, basically you wind up migrating everything by hand anyway.
<0> I guess I'll just have to play with it and see if I make it work or explode. :)
<0> Mailing lists always make me feel like I'm panning for gold... So much drek for the occasional shinies.
<6> any one using debian here?
<6> with apt on it?
<0> Well, I'm using FC3 with apt on it for my MythTV system...
<6> diamon, ok a moment pls
<6> Type "apt-get moo" and press ENTER.
<6> An ASCII-art drawing of a cow will be displayed, with "Have you mooed today?".
<6> diamon, source: http://www.eeggs.com/items/36008.html
<7> hola
<6> hey
<7> i'm getting this: sd(8,3): write failed, user block limit reached. but when i run df i have space available on the drive so i'm guessing this must be a specific user account
<7> that error just got dumped to console 4 times
<7> is there a way i can find out what generated that error?
<0> edward: User block limit sounds like a quota thing to me.
<7> yeah me too
<7> but i don't know which user exceeded that quota
<6> what is core dump exactly?
<7> http://pastebin.com/568247
<0> satsonic: It's a copy of the process memory of whatever app bailed.
<8> it's called memory dump in windows
<8> iirc
<7> any ideas?
<0> Edward: That's just your free space. Check /var/log/messages or dmesg, there should be something in your logs.
<8> Edward123: 5% of ext3 is reserved for root, if that helps
<8> so if the other 95% is being used...
<0> jet: Yeah, and on a 250Gb drive that's a TON of space, I always reduce it.
<8> but that's just if it applies to your specific (something)
<8> aka if 95% is being used
<0> Yeah, he's not even much over 30% used, and it does specify 'user block limit reached', which makes me sure it's a software quota limit.
<7> yeah i think it's a software limit too
<7> i just need to see which user
<0> I think there's some 'repquota' tool to report on quotas or some such, try 'man repquota' and see if that's it.
<0> Abd then there's http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Quota.html also.
<9> is there any way to make a bootable thumbdrive to install linux, maybe suse, over a network?
<7> thos command looks handy, diamon
<7> thos/this
<0> fearmoth: You mean like with an initrd or something on the USB drive reading data off the network? Can't see why that wouldn't be doable.
<9> diamon: well with some distros you can download a cd-r image of just the install disk to boot from and then you install from an ISO or folder somewhere on the network I guess... just wondering how to do this with a usb thumb drive instead of a cd-r
<0> Probably about the same way, just that you'd need to give the USB drive Grub or whatever to boot the imaes on it.
<0> images, even.
<7> sorry if this is a dumb question... but what's the difference between block limits and file limits?
<0> Blocks would be space, file limits would be actual file counts.
<0> I'd think, anyway. I haven't used quotas yet, I just know the theories.
<7> ah okay
<0> Though I plan to fix that once I figure out this iSCSI and LVM stuff and rebuild my fileserver...
<7> two small tasks heh
<0> Yeah, I've already started and finished the iSCSI stuff, now I'm just fishing the details for the LVM stuff, and then I try it and see how it goes.
<0> I intend to ultimately have both my windows and linux boxes talking to my main fileserver for a LVM made available via iSCSI, but I want the linux ones to have quota limits for users and groups on some folders, but not others... That's my onyl sticking point right now is quotas on folders...
<10> good morning, folks! :-D
<7> what's LVM?
<10> logical volume management
<0> lo_tek: Exactly, and what FUN it is! :)
<7> heh
<7> logical volume management?
<11> morning folken
<7> like, partionins?
<10> yeah, i was thinking of playing with it myself, diamon
<7> and is iSCSI different to scsi?
<12> Edward123: it's managing storage stuff in an abstract way, so you don't care about partitions or drives
<10> morning, Quiznos
<11> hi lo
<0> I got tired of allocating space for /, then finding out /home needed it way more, or /var needed more, or whatever, so I'm using LVM to allocate space as I need it now.
<7> CRAZY talk
<7> so it's like virtual partitions?
<10> yeah
<12> sure
<10> you could say that
<0> Err, kinda.
<11> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
<11> /dev/hda1 3.9G 602M 2.9G 18% /
<7> interesting
<11> we're gettin there
<11> almost time to reinstal slack
<10> lol
<7> diamon: what software do you use to implement this?
<0> Mmmm, slackware. I need to get a new copy of that again, been using FC because of work recently.
<0> Edward: What, LVM?
<7> yeah
<11> i'm just gonna do a live update
<13> does anyone here know how to set mime-types in Gnome?
<11> i'm not gonna get the .iso
<7> yeah, LVM
<0> Edward: I use the LVM tools that come with FC3/4, I ***ume other distros have a similar utils kit for LVM.
<7> oh right
<7> what's the package called?
<10> even fdisk could do lvm
<7> i see
<11> diamon fc5-test3 is out
<0> On FC4, it's called lvm2-2.01.08, and has system-config-lvm-0.9.32 as well.
<7> lvm - makes sense, heh
<0> Quiznos: I learned my lesson back with FC1, I'll p*** on all -Test versions. :)
<11> ok
<11> wise.
<10> yup
<10> better to have a machine especially used for such things
<0> FC4 is the highest I'll go until FC5 has been out for 3 months, unless I get REALLY bored and the reports are unusually positive.
<7> so is lvm a home project for you then, or a commercial thing?
<11> how do i establish labels of my fs-parts?
<11> as in, one part is for html, i name the dir H
<13> mime types... I thought this would be easy :(
<0> Errr, a home-mercial thing. I do it at home for amusement, but the company I work for (if they weren't goofs I was trying to leave!) could use it to advantage.
<11> Edward123 lvm is for computer; the distinction is not about home or office
<7> gotcha
<7> heh 'for computer'
<11> Edward123 it's for multiple hd's
<7> not if you work at a butcher's, Quiznos
<11> home/office is not a valid qestion
<14> morning
<0> Quiznos: Or even just one, I use it on my oversize drives, anything 120Gb+. Makes my life easier now. I just have my SNMP monitor tell me if anyone gets to 70% usage and drop me an email, then I just extend it and resize the FS, and off it goes.
<11> diamon cool
<11> i want and need a bigger hd but i cant
<10> yeah, lvm can be good for flexibility
<7> what is it you guys do to need so much storage?
<10> why not, Quiznos?
<11> not enuf FRNs
<10> most of the storage is for pr0n and songs, lol
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