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<0> Jabberwock, I use it primarily for desktop usage, testing code
<1> cipherz: What kind of code?
<2> the pre-compiled stage1 would be a stage3
<3> Cardiba: not it isnt, i wanted an nptl only install
<4> :)
<1> cipherz: Trying to make an educated recommendation based on my experience.
<5> Dr_Willis XD I put my hd onto another comp and the xconfig was completly outa wack so i booted the live CD and replaced its config files CD
<0> Jabberwock, c, java, perl, php (I know the latter is scripting but I'd still call it coding needs)
<1> So you'll be running like eclipse for instance
<1> hey I make a living with php. No need to explain
<4> Angel_Dex, - i tend to just run 'X -configure' :P
<0> been using debian for like hmm 6-7 years now
<5> Dr_Willis i to stupid to know how XD
<2> bob-E: then run a emerge --newuse world o_O
<4> live cds are handy.
<1> cipherz: Then go with slack.
<0> I like the idea of not having to spend time searching sf.net / freshmeat for sources and spend t ime compiling it
<1> Gentoo is a trend. Slack has more years in the market
<2> bob-E: (with the use flag ;) )
<0> thats basically why I like to have a somewhat up to date package system
<1> Oh
<3> Cardiba: the precompiled stage1's are setup using specific cflags , so there alot to choose from depending on the architecture
<6> #$*&%(* you, Jabberwock!
<1> So why move away from debian?
<1> koala_man: :D
<7> what is needed to be use PowerNow, i have kernel support for it - and i selected the ondemand/powersave.. govenours - but my applet in KDE still says that its running on full speed when idle
<1> Debian sounds perfect for you
<0> because I'm tired of unstable and testing
<1> hrm
<4> Hmm.. then dont use them? :P
<7> do i still need a deamon?
<1> if we were in #unix I'd say go with freebsd. It's ports management system is unmatched
<4> or what specificially dont you like about it? heh .
<3> if u want power try linux from scratch :)
<5> Dr_Willis do you have sound server conflicts?
<0> Jabberwock, thats what I thought, tried installing freebsd and its working
<2> bob-E: well, there is only the arch that you change in general in a stage1
<4> Angel_Dex, Hmm.. Never that i can rember. It pays to have a good sound card i guess.
<0> Jabberwock, but I have a lot of learning to do :) but can you get java for freebsd ?
<1> cipherz: Stick with that then. I've never found any package management system better than ports
<0> I recall java not supporting openbsd a year or two ago, of courseo penbosd != freebsd but its still bsd
<1> eh.. yes
<1> but not the newest
<5> Dr_Willis bastard....>.> XD i got crappy intel built in sound
<1> You can use linux-compat to use the newer javas, but I never got it working
<3> gentoo by default uses blackdown java
<0> hmmm comforting :) or something heh
<4> Angel_Dex, Get a Low end Audigy card.
<1> IF you're hardcore into java then fbsd will be a hinderance
<8> how do i replace all characters in a string to '*' using sed?
<0> Jabberwock, not really but I get java ***ignemnts now and then at work :)
<5> Dr_Willis Ok Right now i have ESD and alsa conflicts i think? replacing the sound card would fix this?
<0> how up to date is freebsd's portage ? and doesnt gentoo use a similar system ?
<2> grandma: t/(.*)/(\*)/ ?
<1> grandma: s/./\*/g
<2> ah
<2> right >_>
<4> Angel_Dex, depends.. it may. I honestly cant rember ever having those conflicts.. could be ya just need to configure the apps conflicting better.
<8> ah...the . is what i was missing
<1> cipherz: Well unless you have something specific to the newer jdks.. there are semi-recent java releases for freebsd
<1> It's just slower to come out
<2> cipherz: gentoo USES the same "system" ;)
<3> cipherz: its very update, a source based distribution is inherently more upto date than a compiled distribution
<2> cipherz: ports and portage are almost identical ;)
<3> gentoo package management was based on ports
<5> Dr_Willis i get no sound with Zsnes while ESD is running and when i kill ESD i loose system sounds and gaim sounds
<1> then go with gentoo. I just never had luck with it
<4> i find the whole 'use' flag system - to get rather over whelming. :P
<1> but that's when it was more of just a buzzword for people to throw around and spend 20 hours installing it from stage1
<2> Dr_Willis: if you dont use an editor like ufed, it is ;)
<0> bob-E, exactly my thought :)
<4> Angel_Dex, interesting. I cant say that ive had any issues on this box with zsnes. - I tend to run KDE however.
<3> have a limited set of use flags for world, and this may sound tedious, but use per package use flags, in /etc/packages/package.use
<5> Dr_Willis i prefer gnome
<2> nasty desktop enviroments =P
<0> gentoo is source based thats correct ?
<4> Angel_Dex, try it with other window managers/desktops - see if the same issue happens.
<2> cipherz: yep
<3> i dont like either, i just use gtk and no qt
<1> I think qt is faster :P
<0> ok thanks for all the input guys :)
<0> *thanks
<4> i use whatever has the tools i need to use.. and runs well on the machine i am using.
<4> :P
<2> Jabberwock: c++ is bitchy :p
<9> I think qt has a non free aftertaste
<1> Cardiba: howso?
<3> cipherz: yep, thats why it takes ages to install anything u gotta compile it, but os will feel snappoier than the i486 based distros, well it did for me
<2> Jabberwock: i dont like it :)
<2> Jabberwock: more a "personal" thing ;)
<1> o k
<2> bob-E: ages? it took me about 4 hours to get a stage3 with X (ratpoison) runnning. ;)
<2> and some usefull stuff :p
<3> 4 hours is slow compared to say 20 minutes
<9> it takes quite a while to earn that back in optimization
<2> bob-E: well, you ave to decide if you want a sourcecode or a binary based distro
<9> not to mention the instability tax
<2> if you want to take the advantage of faster installation take a binary
<3> true and my 600mhz machine would spend sometimes days compilng
<2> if you want better performance and portability, take gentoo ;)
<2> yea
<5> Dr_Willis Ho hum i no wanan change TT_TT
<3> so i switched to arch, its abs system lets me compile the apps i manually want to do
<2> bob-E: if you take a stage1, which is 1. not longer official supported, and 2. useless
<9> not that I do binaries, but I have no illusions about compiling
<2> slpyhd: like?
<3> Cardiba: i dont use gentoo anymore, and i was just following advise from some of the forum maintainers in gentoo
<2> bob-E: what kinda advise? ;)
<2> bob-E: the reason why they took the stage1 (and 2 i think) out of maintance was the point that its senseless (not better than stage3) ;)
<2> they were even buggy 'cause of some invalid links in /lib/
<2> iirc
<3> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-189250-highlight-nptl+stage1.html , if this was bad advise at the time, guess i made a bad judgement
<3> i also wanted to tinker around gentoo, learn how it was put together, i like knowledge
<3> for me gentoo was a great experience, loved installing it and seting it up, just didnt have enough time for the maintenance
<10> Im trying to delete a policy for QMail can someone help me
<11> hello
<11> is there any C programmers here ?
<0> bob-E, well *nod* I dont mind compiling I just mind that the packages are outdated :)
<0> or not working
<0> diloo, yes
<12> diloo: whatcha want?
<11> cipherz: Are you a hacker-like ? :)
<11> I would like to know how to timeout a gethostbyname call
<3> cipherz: although gentoo is uptodate, doing your own packages, is relatively easy with gentoo
<0> bob-E, sounds good
<3> the gentoo wiki, and forums, give so much info
<3> i just tackled learning about 1 thing at a time, found out that gentopia is well good, automounting of devices by user, hal, dbus,ivman,pmount combination
<8> i don't have enough time for gentoo, hehe
<11> So, cipherz do you know how to do it ?
<0> yes
<11> I've tried with a SIGALRM signal but gethostbyname is not interrupted.
<0> diloo, tried what exactly ?
<13> hi
<11> cipherz: before my gethostbyname I put an alarm (DNS_TIMEOUT); and after an alarm (0);
<11> Sin_Eastwood: hi
<14> I'm having problems getting a Logitech Quickcam Express to work, even though the deviceid is supported and I can get information from it after loading the kernel module
<14> I just get a black screen when I try mplayer or xawtv, or gqcam
<14> Can anyone tell me where the problem might be? Driver or video4linux, or so forth?
<0> diloo, hmm havent tried alarm
<11> cipherz: But it doesn't work at all....
<13> anyone here get parinoid activity while sinning with linux
<15> uhm
<16> hello.. what could be the case if my time does freeze up, randomly any situation.... mostly after a couple of hours... and the seconds just will jump back and forth 1 second while driving around with the mouse or pressing any key.... most of the applications freeze totally though..
<13> like porn or games
<16> bad cmos battery ?
<16> i enabled rtc support...
<1> genocide: never heard of that happening
<16> ya, it never happend to me before either.
<0> diloo, tried stracing the code or reading man pages ? really all advice I can give
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