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<0> headmonkey: let's try to keep calm in future ;)
<1> okey then Flawless... but recall... with lost data, the sooner is always the better
<2> sambagirl: debian encourages people to use it this way. Look into Custom Debian Distributions.
<3> freezombie, so long as you dont stiffle innovation...i'll keep calm ;)
<4> stu7: of course, that's one reason I'd like to attempt recovery on a cloned image
<2> sambagirl: http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/
<0> headmonkey: hrmpf, I could formulate a flaming answer to that, probably including Microsoft and Apple as counter-examples, but I won't
<1> a cloned image of... an empty disk ?
<4> stu7: with the original data in the unused sectors
<1> oh
<0> headmonkey: and ATi ;)
<5> I dunno about other people
<2> with a CCD you can use debians repos directly.
<5> But I almost always zerofill an HDD before reusing it
<2> err CDD
<3> freezombie, no...we agreed not to ;)
<4> PayphoneEd: well, you're not an ***hat technician
<0> headmonkey: :)
<2> all you have to provide are the few packages you modify.
<5> lol
<2> thats it.
<3> freezombie, and ati and nvidia and ms are all innovating...they just arent sharing their innovations openly
<5> Innovating my ***
<5> Especially Microsoft
<5> headmonkey: You mean SCO Unix?
<3> no...i mean ms unix
<2> MS made their own Unix years ago.
<2> it didn't sell well.
<0> XENIX...
<5> Xenix
<2> yeah that.
<3> no..microsoft unix...you wait...it will happen
<1> Flawless... I've got the first few lines done... "and so, my client - who refers to you as '***hat'... I'm ***uming that is indic in origin...' hows it sounding ? :-)
<5> headmonkey: It already has. It's called SCO Unix.
<4> stu7: Hahaha :)
<6> headmonkey, Xenix?
<5> We all know the connections are tight.
<3> sco unix != microsoft unix
<0> PayphoneEd: but Microsoft still has rights to the old UNIX code I believe
<5> headmonkey: It's a joke, twit
<1> microsoft unix ???
<3> microsoft will stick their name on a version of unix...and id lay odds it'll be based on linux
<5> freezombie: MS has no rights to such
<5> Whatsoever
<0> PayphoneEd: but they has Xenix, and for that they must have had rights
<5> Why do you think they paid so much to SCO?
<2> you can't call yourself Unix unless you can p*** certification.
<5> freezombie: _had_
<2> linux can't p*** that certification.
<5> Key word.
<6> headmonkey, they already had their own version in which they sold to SCO...
<2> same for bsd.
<0> lowkey: uh.... are you talking about something POSIX-related ?
<2> but then again, who really wants to be unix?
<3> you can take linux, rework it, completely, i mean completely, compile it, put out your own version of unix, keep the kernel closed source, and noone will ever know that you did
<0> lowkey: SCO ?
<2> freezombie: no. Unix is a standard, that standard is controlled by the Unix Group.
<5> headmonkey: People will find out
<0> headmonkey: wrong.
<2> freezombie: they have a test that the system must p*** to use the 'Unix' name.
<0> headmonkey: Linux (the kernel) is GPL. The GPL forbids that.
<3> PayphoneEd, no they wont...because your administrative process ensured that linux was "reverse engineered" and that the new code was coded from scratch....its as simple as cutting and pasting
<3> the gpl forbids distribution in whole or part, does it not ?
<0> headmonkey: that still would be illegal
<5> Highly illegal
<3> it doesnt mean you cant look at linux in 1 window, and code your own compatible version in another...thats not illegal
<4> anybody? rescue tool that uses signatures?
<2> and not as hard to catch as you think.
<1> yea... not ALL linux is free...
<5> Now, Microsoft could entirely make their own distribution of Linux
<5> AND sell it if they cared as much to
<0> headmonkey: it's a method of copying
<3> freezombie, no its not...its a method of reverse engineering to produce a new product
<3> and its how we got an AMD cpu
<2> cutting and pasting is not reverse engineering.
<2> and amd did not cut and paste a cpu.
<3> lowkey, yes they did
<0> headmonkey: Intel documented their CPU
<6> Yes they did
<0> headmonkey: apart from that
<5> Originally, AMD illegally copied Intel's designs
<5> AND
<0> hardware != source code
<5> They got smacked for it
<2> headmonkey: no. they took the Intel documentation and created their own unique way to do the same functions.
<0> originally, Microsoft pirated DOS
<5> After that they licensed the technology from Intel
<5> freezombie: Also incorrect
<5> They purchased it for a mint
<0> PayphoneEd: maybe inaccurate
<2> same as what linux, unix, bsd, mac os and microsoft do for the Posix standards.
<1> nope... ms purchased the rights to dos
<5> And make a million off of it
<7> they bought dos from some dude for like $10
<3> you guys dont get it....if all the stuff you say was illegal was actually illegal...there would be no computer science courses at college
<5> jrhodes: Wrong
<5> IIRC it was $20000
<6> There is a technology sharing agreement between the two companies, which originated back when AMD used to make cheaper duplicates of intels chips
<2> Microsoft paid $50K for DOS. hardly a mint.
<5> Yeah, 50k
<7> it was that much? I need to read up on my MS history again
<5> I knew 20k was wrong, but it was what came to me first
<1> 50k in 1980 was a lot more tho :)
<2> the funny part is MS didn't buy DOS until after they had sold it to IBM.
<2> also for $50K.
<7> there was something that was pretty cheap. might've been cp/m or something *headscratch*
<3> ms didnt sell dos to ibm...they licensed it for $1 a copy
<2> they sold the license for $50K unlimited use.
<1> jrhodes... ummm... manhattan maybe you were thinking... with the beads and all ? :-)
<3> lowkey, no they didnt...they licensed dos to IBM for $1 per copy
<2> which is what made it the PC standard and gave IBM no incentive to develop anything else.
<2> headmonkey: nope.
<2> unlimited use license.
<0> there are many myths about the history of DOS...
<1> well... IBM dos went thru several versions
<2> once it was the PC standard, then they bumped up the price.
<5> IBM started out as an exact copy
<6> Didn't they buy Ibm-dos back from ibm and relable it ms-dos?
<5> In fact, the source code was the same
<2> especially for competitors to IBM.
<5> You'd choose whether it would be PC-DOS or MS-DOS
<1> yea
<5> It was as simple as flipping a #define
<0> and then there were the OS/2 contracts... IB<->MS
<0> well, cu all
<2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS
<7> and the OS/2 components built into Windows 2000
<8> Does the scrollbar change with css in a firefox browser?
<9> Has anyone tried a crontab entry simlar to this: 01 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/somescript `date +%u` , note the use of the data command to grab the day of the week as a parameter to the shell script ?
<5> "Chuck Norris' first job was as a paperboy. There were no survivors."
<7> old
<10> ok thank you lowkey and thank you to all the others for their information and encouragement.
<10> brb
<11> Chuck Norris fired Donald Trump.
<2> Chuck Norris's tears can cure cancer. The only problem is he's never cried.
<4> lowkey: hahaha :)
<11> Chuck Norris wrote an operating system, but no computer in the world is powerful enough to run it.
<5> lol
<12> who's Chuck Norris?
<5> ...
<12> :D
<5> Everybody! Roundhouse kick!
<2> http://4q.cc/index.php?pid=fact&person=chuck
<12> Chuck Norris once ordered a pepperoni pizza. When he discovered that they had forgotten the pepperonis, he roundhouse kicked the delivery boy and stapled him to the pizza and ate it.
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