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<0> iKernel: erm, ignore that until later, it'll confuse you for now
<1> okay
<0> iKernel: just know that print @foo will print the number of ordinal elements, and $#foo will print the index of the last element (usually 1 less than the number of elements, unless you tell it otherwise)
<0> daemorhedron: looking
<2> dmesg works on there, but a grep also shows nothing to do with scsi
<0> hmm, the kernel config that is linked from the main page also has CONFIG_SCSI=y
<0> what kind of scsi card is in there?
<2> aic 7880
<2> adaptec, extremely common
<0> yeah
<0> CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX=y
<2> strange
<0> is there anything under /proc/scsi ?
<2> "no such file or directory" =(
<1> hmm. mini discs are slightly bendy.
<2> weird, # CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set
<0> uname -r
<2> that's what I show on their kernel conf
<0> er
<2> 2.6.16
<0> are you on rip 15.2 ?
<3> infi: mailed the vsftpd folks regarding the stdin thingy?
<0> http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/RIP-15.2.kernel.txt
<0> redduck676: nah, I gave up on it ;) I figure going into their channel and talking loudly about it would be good enough
<2> on their floppy image, not sure how to tell what version it is
<3> :)
<0> daemorhedron: ah, the floppy one...
<2> yeah no cd in the machine
<0> how much free space is left on the floppy?
<0> actually, nevermind, CONFIG_MODULES is not set.
<2> stellar
<2> nice idea though
<2> wonder what's in the RIP-1680 one instead of the 1440
<0> does the box have usb?
<0> and do you have a pendrive?
<2> yeah, but can't boot from it
<4> btw, does anyone else fear that the president of china is visiting the US but going to Bill Gates instead of the president
<4> ?
<0> hrm
<0> ninjaz2: not really, MS is expanding heavily into china right now
<4> that seems kind of fearsome, like the corporations are about to admit that they own the government
<0> they'll never admit that ;)
<4> and that it is cutting into profits keeping up the facade of a democracy
<0> heh
<2> hold the phone, this looks promising http://www.cpqlinux.com/recovery.html
<5> morning
<0> yay, my apropos is much more sane now that I killed the Tcl* and Tk* man pages
<0> hi Q-ball
<5> i separate them into 3t
<5> just awoke
<5> what was the affect and did you rm tch/tk ?
<0> nah, I don't do any tcl dev work, so I don't need them
<5> i also note that 3t pages are not stdly written
<5> k
<5> did you remake the whatis file?
<0> of course
<5> good
<5> ninjaz2 China has a PM not a P.
<0> erm, I think they have both
<1> i can't do the exercise on one of the pages!
<5> well if i'm wrong my excuse is that i just awoke
<0> Premier and President
<0> iKernel: what is it?
<1> probably because I've understood the page incorrectly.
<0> and what are you studying from?
<1> infi: http://www.rlaj.com/scripts/nicksilver/filehandling.html
<1> infi: please don't do it for me
<0> I won't
<1> lol!
<6> perl?! not perl! ;)
<1> mjbjr, yes perl
<6> :)
<1> zophy, female linux user?
<6> why would you use shell expansion on a file handle <INFO> ?
<0> iKernel: erm, that's not really a very good tutorial, imho
<0> by the way, perldoc perlvar will show you what $" does, since he didn't bother explaining it.
<5> what's the <tr> element-option to specify the length of a line of text in a tr-cell?
<0> width=pixels or width="nn%"
<5> ty
<7> tr shouldn't have any text in it
<7> text goes in td or th
<8> CSS!
<0> yeah, css :b
<0> tables = poo
<5> i want to columise like newspaper
<5> i dont do css
<1> had to kill X
<5> but tell me how
<0> you can do columns in css very nicely
<7> if you want to columnise, css is the way to go
<0> http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp
<5> no, i'm not surfing still not awake
<5> :)
<0> it's a CSS tutorial
<5> elinks didnt take the width
<5> didnt do it
<9> any good console monitoring software to keep track of network data in/out, and keep track of hardware resources, for data security
<10> http://www.jjhosting.net/gallery/
<11> ethereal for network data
<10> sawyerx: for linux console?
<11> yeah
<11> someone must have written a gui, but otherwise ethereal is natively console-based
<9> thanks.
<12> there's ethereal and tethereal
<6> there are tons of pages, literally, on doing columns in css
<2> unbeleivable, I get the same fdformat error from toms rb on linux and windows
<1> daemorhedron, lol!!
<2> in all fairness I'm on the same machine, just running linux in a vmware shell
<1> and i found out what was wrong with my mouse. not my mouse at all. it's my bloody mouse mat (not literrally)
<2> had to because toms rb requires root access for some reason, so can't do it on the problem box
<1> daemorhedron, Do you think it should requrie root access? Because if it doesn't, you can always edit the source...
<2> yeah going over it now, no idea why it would demand root to make a floppy
<1> daemorhedron, wonder if you put linux onto your system and try?
<6> hacking wpa - cool video: http://www.mirrors.wiretapped.net/security/vulnerability-***essment/aircrack/whax-aircrack-wpa/whax-aircrack-wpa.html
<1> http://www.rlaj.com/scripts/nicksilver/filehandling.html How can this tutorial expect me to do something which it hasn't taught me enough to be able to do?
<0> iKernel: that was my point..
<1> s/me/anayone
<1> anyone*
<0> I would recommend this one instead: http://www.perl.org/books/beginning-perl/
<1> k
<1> thanks
<13> hmm, what is the fs type of a DOS formatted diskette?
<0> actually, that exercise itself was kind of a bad one, in that the solution was.. not really very helpful anyway.
<0> RoySmeding: msdos
<13> ah
<14> RoySmeding fat12/16/32
<0> actually, iKernel, here's a non-pdf version of that book: http://learn.perl.org/library/beginning_perl/
<1> infi, none of this is helpful, but you can turn these arrays and what have you into sometihng useful
<0> oh wait, it's pdf too. heh
<1> infi, :P
<0> iKernel: what I meant is that his method of printing those modified lines (using $") isn't really commonly used
<0> there are much easier and more logical ways of doing it, that don't confuse newbies
<0> but you're right, he totally didn't teach you what you needed to know before doing that (using either method) anyway.
<1> infi, I don't think I understood what he meant by $" any way. did he mean $foo = "meow"?
<0> nah, if you reset $" = '#'; then it'll separate the entries of the array with a #
<1> infi, k
<15> ok, so i had to defrag a partition. i unmounted it, defragged it, and remounted it
<15> only now the system tells me that the filesystem is read-only
<16> morning...
<17> morning dma147
<15> i can cat > test.file
<15> but i can't rm test.file without an error
<1> yonkeltron, erm, what sort of filesystem is this?
<1> yonkeltron?
<15> iKernel: well it's working now
<15> i unmounted it and remounted it
<15> works fine now
<15> it was ext3 though
<1> yonkeltron, .
<1> yonkeltron, you don't defrag ext3 filesystem...
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