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<0> Mirrakor I believe your correct .... it's been a while since I dug into that timeline
<1> Splinter2, anyway it's not that important ;) are you using one of them?
<0> of course
<1> would you tell my which and why? :)
<0> which one depends on which system :)
<1> depends on OS or machine?
<0> os usually though version plays a part in this
<1> which systems are you using?
<0> Mirrakor hardware or software ..... there are about 20 boxes at this site, and I've been around .....
<1> lol ok, i ask the other way 'round, I have a gentoo system (P4; 512MB Ram, 3,06Ghz) - what would you recommend?
<2> what are you two talking about?
<1> about vi(m) and emacs
<2> mmm
<2> i love vim
<1> explain why *g*
<2> easy



<3> system doesn't matter (ok, emacs likes a bit more ram)... its all about your preference
<2> i can get around vera fast
<2> easy to use
<2> the m part is pretty nice, color coding and all that
<1> right, vim is a improvement of vi
<1> (right?)
<0> Mirrakor that box should be stable, ix86 you'll be using vim or emacs are you familiar with either and or what other editor (brief , wordstar ... ?)
<2> basically
<1> Splinter2, just mcedit and nano
<2> if you aren't familiar with vi/m it can be tough to wrap your mind around it
<2> but once you do you'll love it
<0> correct
<2> there's a quick cheatsheet somewhere
<2> quick reference
<1> yeah i saw one in a shop as mousepad *g*
<2> http://wks.uts.ohio-state.edu/unix_course/intro-134.html
<1> thanks
<2> yeah
<1> so you (both?) would recommend me vim?
<0> on intel linux yes
<2> I definitely would recommand vi to anybody. vim is just... nicer
<2> pretty colors
<4> If on a serial connection, all you get is giberish, that would mean your port settings are incorrect, yes?
<1> Splinter2, is there anything what would be better on non-intel pcs?
<2> at least, if you are the sysadmin type. i am one of those, and i do a lot of editing of stuff. really nice, particularly if you know regular expressions
<0> Fooker usualy
<1> Ok, I'll give vim a try ;)
<0> Fooker various chars or just repeated
<1> Thanks for your advices :)
<0> Mirrakor enjoy :)
<4> Splinter2: Lots of repeated characters. Different port settings result in slightly different patters, but mostly the same
<5> anyone tell me the best way to cat a bunch of text files and replace ||| with |foo|bar|
<6> pie
<7> :DDDDDDDDDDDD
<8> so apparently at the grocery store i had detergent driping down my leg and noone felt the need to inform me
<0> Fooker the further off the baud rate the less varity in char, parity can throw it all off
<7> gufymike!!!
<9> ?
<7> missing BL episodes!!!
<7> i just found them :P
<7> shinsen
<9> :P
<4> Splinter2: Ok. Any ways to detect any of the settings automatically?
<0> Niacin read man sed
<7> you got them already?
<9> upto 9 right?
<7> yea mate!
<7> heh :P
<7> :P
<0> Fooker as a diagnostic it can be done, I don't know of a free tool that does it
<4> No one would happen to know the serial port settings for an NPI 24port Keystone24G layer 2/3 switch by chances, would they??
<1> Splinter2, Kurrasoe , ehm.. i don't turn into someone like VIm_Enforcer when i use vim, or? *gg*
<0> Fooker are you hanging terminals on it ? .... some of them report when they power up the switch
<4> Splinter2: Hanging terminals on it?
<0> Mirrakor nope ... thats an extreme case :)
<4> Splinter2: I'm just doing a serial connection from minicom on a linux box to it
<1> *gg*
<0> Fooker can you find it's manual on the web



<4> Splinter2: No, business went under
<1> VIm_Enforcer, splinter just told me to use vim *g*
<7> i know
<7> i'm the chief VImer here
<7> >:|
<1> he should be your friend >)
<4> Splinter2: Thanks for your help, I gotta jet.
<10> Mirrakor: everyone uses vim
<0> Fooker the next best .... 9600 8N1
<7> he can't anymore
<7> he's got his head bit off :)
<1> *gg*
<4> Splinter2: Any flow control?
<0> xon/xoff
<0> software only
<7> see? Splinter2 is acting up
<0> but thats wyse speaking
<7> who wouldn't with no head
<7> :P
<11> Fooker to determine settings of a serial port use "stty -F </dev/......> all" replace .... with your device name
<7> Splinter2 is not a Wyse Man
<7> neither is he jim blunty
<0> VIm_Enforcer we love ya ... despite my emacs history
<11> by whose terms?
<4> bronze: That will tell me the other computers serial connections?
<5> whats the best way to cat all files in a directory together that have the prefix FOO_*
<11> Fooker: no, only works local.
<0> Fooker btw ... 7 bit will hose the chars all across the board pretty good also
<11> Niacin: cat FOO_* >allofem
<0> smoke
<7> of all keys i like backspace the most
<7> :P
<7> it does a nifty sound
<7> ?
<7> i don't know a key labeled VIm_Enforcer
<7> :/
<11> your backspace key was making too much noide.. :)
<7> nor bbq
<11> s/ds/
<11> s/d/s
<7> anyone ever wondered that BBQ sounds a bit like be quiet
<7> so bronze, BBQ!!
<7> :P
<7> lol
<7> "you see this cat Shaft is a bad mother<shut your mouth>"
<7> who's the black private ****
<7> that's a *** machine to all the chicks?
<7> VIm_Enforcer!
<7> ya damn right
<7> :P
<12> hey, VIm_Enforcer!
<7> lo_tek!
<7> long time no see
<7> :D
<12> <-- in the middle of the final install of glibc on my super lfs box! :-D
<12> if you can make it through a compilation of glibc, you can make it through anything, lol
<7> lol
<7> lfs?
<7> what fs is that
<12> linux from scratch
<13> back.
<7> oh
<10> lo_tek: triple-compile bootstrap?
<7> Quizyz
<7> quizzy
<12> amphi, yes, something like that
<13> hi
<10> lo_tek: aye, it takes its time


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