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<0> omg
<1> ananke, why?
<2> ananke, http://pastebin.com/710417 << i found this on the console
<3> Iron_Chef : because trash like that shouldn't be tolerated
<3> duh
<4> $200,000 is a bit much for a second hand welding robot
<1> ananke, like what??
<3> Iron_Chef : you must be really slow today
<4> you can get the robot arm for $10,000 - $15,000 and add your own welder
<3> Henk : two possibilities: a) bad sata drive, b) buggy drivers
<1> headmonkey, yeah, i was talking off the top of my head there :-)
<1> http://cgi.ebay.com/Motoman-Mig-Welding-SK6-MRC-Industrial-ROBOT_W0QQitemZ7626773136QQihZ017QQcategoryZ87079QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<1> Kevin`, noted heh
<2> ananke, hmm... but this only happen with raid. If i use the disks with two seperate ext3 partittions or LMV or anything else. all is very well
<5> didn't there used to be a bot that did that auto ?
<6> I have to copy that in 3 seperate lines to view it
<3> Henk : see #b
<1> http://tinyurl.com/mmdfp
<1> http://tinyurl.com/ecsfs
<1> better?
<2> ananke, buggy drivers ?
<6> yep :)
<3> Henk : however, there may be a third possibility: crappy PSU
<3> Henk : do you have any data on those drives that you'd like to keep?
<2> its a brandnew P4 server tieh two 250GB sata disks
<1> it would sooo freak out an intruder, set it to 'defend' mode lol
<3> Henk : 'brand new' doesn't mean jack ****
<2> ananke, the system it self. is running on sda1
<5> yeah i thought there was a bot in here at one time that automaticly tinyurl'd all url's was i dreaming ?
<3> Henk : so what are you raiding?
<2> the partitions i'm trying to get into raid are sda2 en sdb2
<2> system is about 5 gb
<2> the rest (245g) should be raided - lvm
<3> Henk : k, try this experiment: run: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda2, run that for a few minutes
<2> I've got the same setup on a few other servers, almost same hardare
<2> ananke, did that
<7> im looking into building a linuxbox to act as my LAN/internet firewall. can anyone recommend a good linux distro for this purpose? =)
<3> Henk : let me finish
<7> IPCop any good?
<2> sorry
<6> [-Haza-Lappy-] anything small, unless you want to use the box for something else
<8> [-Haza-Lappy-]: well depends
<3> Henk : if you get no issues, run the same thing with sdb2. if you get no issues, run BOTH dd's at the same time
<5> yeah linux
<8> you can build one urself, and or use prebuilt solutions
<6> all you really need for a "firewall" is the kernel and a script to load the firewall rules
<3> [-Haza-Lappy-] : ipcop is excellent
<7> to be honest the box just has to act as a firewall
<8> u might want to try m0n0wall too
<3> [-Haza-Lappy-] : easy to install, it's prepared to be a firewall.
<2> ananke, ok great. You think that this will flood the box too ?
<7> cheers people, thats the sort of direction i need! =D
<9> ipcop and m0n0wall are pretty much the same thing 'xept with m0n0wall you don't get shell access
<2> I'll try, be back.. thnx so far
<7> i think i will have a look at IPCop first
<9> and m0n0wall runs on fbsd ;)
<8> ^^^^
<3> Henk : no, i hope this will put stress on the hard drives and the sata controller
<8> and is 5 mb in size
<7> heheh
<8> well iso image of 5 mbs :P
<6> bigger then it could be
<6> yet still at the I don't care level of smallness
<2> ananke, i understand. I'll get back to you with the results. You think that i'll get the same kind of errors right? meaning bad disks/ bad controller ?
<3> Henk : or bad drivers, or bad psu
<3> Henk : troubleshooting is not about getting the right answer right away. troubleshooting is about eliminating possibilities and uknowns
<7> i ***ume like most operating systems i can duel boot IPCop and m0n0wall. give them both a try then =)
<3> [-Haza-Lappy-] : dual. duel is when two crazy men fight.
<8> lets fight
<2> ananke, i know. anyway i've rebooted in /bin/bash and i'm now mke2fs-ing on the partitions because if i leave it in raid i wont even get to the login prompt.
<5> dualboot is a boot loader option not an os option
<6> some operating systems are too stupid to work with it though
<8> does anyone have any expirience with windows installtion, i have xp installtion crapping out stating that i do not have enough memory to check disk drives :|
<8> wwtf is with that message
<6> can't think of any off hand where it is completely impossible
<6> nXOR ##windows perhaps?
<8> Kevin`: they dont know much, poor bastards
<6> how much memory do you have
<8> Kevin`: 786, now i bought a new module thinking its a memory failure
<8> currently just new module of 256
<8> ddr1 400
<6> worth testing..
<3> why not just run memtest?
<8> but its not ze memory module
<8> i did, nothign unusual
<8> maybe its ze mobo
<6> could be the windows install
<6> :)
<8> Kevin`: yeah ...
<6> how much mem is reported by memtest, linux, dos, ..
<8> but thats a story for a diferent discussion
<8> Kevin`: 256 is in the box now
<8> so thats how much its reporting
<5> swap space ?
<8> no swap
<10> it's windows
<10> windows makes it's own swap
<6> the install should handle it's own swap space, if it needs it.. in any case, it works for most people, with less ram
<5> windows can fail on low mem when swap is low even though you could load the whole thing into ram......
<10> linux needs a dynamic swap add thingy
<6> Skunky that would only be used in cases where an application is using memory in an out of control fasion
<6> (better to fail, imo)
<10> Kevin`: um. no. I want it to eat disk space like mad.
<6> well I don't think it would be too hard to code a userspace program to do that
<10> Kevin`: I've got a box with 16 meg of ram, and a little hard drive. I don't wanna have to dedicate a large part of that little drive to being swap space, cuz i only need 100 meg of swap space when I compile gcc
<5> let oomk do what it's made to do.
<10> intelikey: running with no swap is silly.
<11> intelikey yeah?
<6> Skunky make a little script to add/remove swapfiles
<6> i'm ***uming you can anticipate when you will need the extra memory
<6> and, I feel for you.. compiling with swap is painful
<10> Kevin`: that's the problem... I can't anticipate it sometimes. i mean, sometimes it's fine, but other times, i'll say, tell mozilla to open another browser window, and *boom* down goes mozilla
<8> oh M$ is preparing a new media file format, well image format to be exact
<8> windows media photo, ive just been informed
<6> why do we need a new image format
<8> well so ppl cant view it except to buy ms products ?
<8> unless**
<11> heh, some kind of new DRM?
<6> Skunky well, I could see writing a userspace daemon to maintain a certain amount of free space, but allowing a sudden spike of memory usage to increase swapspace.. dunno
<6> images don't need drm
<11> neither do mp3's or wmv's
<6> drm is good for the media companies in that case
<12> How do I save a html page that I'm watching in mozilla with all the images on the page? Ordinary "save as" doesn't work. I only get the html source file with links to images.
<6> people don't sell you pictures to view on your computer, though
<13> tiny: you could use wget if mozilla doesn't have anything
<6> well it could be argued that drm is BAD for the media companies too, but that's another discussion
<8> i think its the hard drive .....
<12> koala_man: problem is those images/pages get generated dynamicaly. There's python on the server side.
<6> save as, option web page, complete?
<8> oh lunch time !!!
<13> Skunky: I don't suppose the box has usb or such
<12> Kevin`: hmm, I knew I missed something
<12> Kevin`: ty
<10> koala_man: the low-memory box? no. it's got 1 pcmcia slot and a 2.5mm headphone jack, and an ir port.
<14> what is a good 64bit linux OS?
<6> you could probably find pcmcia-usb or pcmcia-ram (hard, that one)
<8> barbieos
<11> ive tried suse and fedora, they wernt bad.
<11> 64bit ver that is
<14> for 64bit?
<10> Kevin`: usb should be easy... but i have to get the machine functional first. (:
<14> oh ok
<6> well most cards made today are cardbus, not pcmcia
<10> Kevin`: then a little usb drive or something... and a bluetooth adapter.. i always forget if it's really a cardbus slot or not, i always just called them pcmcia slots. (: the "pc card slot" thing never stuck with me either.
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