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<0> BTW thank you guys, its actually working now <1> I don't know about linux, but open source in general is nice <0> thank you thank you thank you <2> yeah you don't think it has anything with me snapping at the op in #ubuntu last night do you ? <3> kevin`, agreed, design is a better adjective <4> Quiznos, produced <3> nah <3> designed <3> implemented <4> theres lots of software thats produced but never designed ;) <5> <insert anti-software-patents quip> <5> lol headmonkey <6> And some is just dd'd directly out of /dev/random... <4> SpeedEvil, alot of c sources look like it <7> if you had to bet the house on it... which email client would you use? <5> netcat
<4> telnet <2> SpeedEvil you've seen me code ? <6> :) <3> btw, re the man i just mentioned, the county DA seriously messed up the whole thing, very the very start of the court proceedings!!! <4> thats why he's the county DA and not one of OJ's attorneys ;) <5> how? <8> which manpage is it? <8> :-p <3> bodies were found on the man's property. one would think that would make a slam-dunk case against the man. that's how bad the DA messed up! <9> wow - snoop dogg is kickin' it with some hot babes again <4> bodies found on the property....and he's a free man ? <4> insane...you'd think the entire US had used lead pipes for its water supply <8> Quiznos: so you're saying that no one can possibly leave something on your property without your noticing? <6> Well... You can bury bodies on other peoples land. <2> headmonkey we did <6> (though I have no personal experience) <2> and then plastic... <4> intelikey, its all clear now ;) <8> headmonkey: not all of us! <8> headmonkey: and we have well water over here, not acid rain runoff <9> I've always wondered about plastic soda bottles <5> acid rain filtered by dirt :) <8> IRONCOW: what about them? <8> they dissolve <9> in heat... <8> IRONCOW: no, in soda. <4> i cant wait to build my house...those problems are all easily solved....just noone does it <6> tonsofpcs: they basically do not dissolve. <2> headmonkey but isn't man the only creature that intentionally poisons himself on a regular bases ? <9> So if its a hot summer day - is it safe to drink soda in them? <6> headmonkey: what - the where to bury bodies problem? <6> IRONCOW: sure. <5> intelikey no, actually <4> intelikey, i dunno...ive seen dogs eat their own turds...dunno what affect it has on them ;) <10> VIm_Enforcer version 2.0 responding <3> tonsofpcs i'm not the man i'm referring to <8> SpeedEvil: ever see a plastic soda bottle that's been sitting for a few years and compare it to the thickness of a bottle from the same batch that was sititng empty for the same period? <8> Quiznos: go grep your man til you find it then. <6> tonsofpcs: yes. They do not dissolve. <3> headmonkey plastic pipes and the poison glue are just as dangerous <5> intelikey i'd be hard pressed to remember the specific animals, but a couple DO poision themselves intentionally.. of course, for a benificial purpose, but <3> the glue they use to connect the plastic pipes <4> Quiznos, im a fan of copper pipes myself <8> SpeedEvil: then what happens to the plastic that makes it so much thinner/weaker at that point? <9> bah - 2 more days until my first important phone call on my book - actually one and a half - should be friday afternoon <6> tonsofpcs: at what point? <8> SpeedEvil: a few years down..... <5> headmonkey copper.. lead solder? <4> Kevin`, leadless solder ;) <5> good for you :) <6> tonsofpcs: They arn't. I've actually had occasion to measure one (weight) and it was identical from one that had been full for 5 years, to one that had been empty <2> kevin` well i never really studied boteny so ;) <4> the sprinkler system can be plastic....doesnt so much matter there <6> (I was looking at absorbed moisture content <4> but inside the house will be all copper <4> the showers can be plastic...again...doesnt matter much <8> SpeedEvil: you must have had a tougher one than the ones I had... <6> tonsofpcs: Did you actually measure this? PETE does _not_ dissolve in water, or acid. <5> tougher.. different plastic.. whatever <3> headmonkey i am not aware of a decent substitute for the various metal and plastic materials that are used for transporting potable water <6> tonsofpcs: And that's what essentially all clear plastic bottles are made of
<3> wood perhaps <4> Quiznos, copper ;) <6> Quiznos: ceramic <4> its just expensive <8> SpeedEvil: yes, I actually measured it <3> i'm not sure of that. <3> ceramic, but it would have to be properly cooked <6> tonsofpcs: and they were from the same batch, at exactly the same place on the bottle? <6> tonsofpcs: the thickness from bottle-bottle varies a bit, and the thickness place-place varies a _lot_ <5> well ideally you'd take the average of several bottles.. <8> I guess I should set up a new test, three bottles of a few different sodas in a few different bottle types, one remains full and sealed, one full and open, one open and empty <8> I don't have enough space for multiple sets of each type <2> all stainless only way to go. <6> tonsofpcs: No point - PET bottles have been studied to death. They do not dissolve in any common solvent. <8> SpeedEvil: they do not dissolve *without a catalyst* in common solvents <6> tonsofpcs: read the literature on them. Any macro dissolving into the contents would be _big_ news - from the health POV <6> tonsofpcs: Because poeple were talking about it does not make it true. <8> SpeedEvil: and because people weren't doesn't make it false. <2> yes the 'dioxin' used to make them wasn't it. <4> all i know is...i can taste the plastic....it tastes different than a can <6> And they were AIUI talking about plasticisers <8> headmonkey: yup <6> which is very differnent from the base plastic <4> if it didnt leech at all....then i couldnt taste it <11> apache2 issue : 98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:443 no listening sockets available, shutting down <--- but its runnining any ideas ? <5> shut down, start again <12> Blue-Steel: it's already running. <8> Blue-Steel: it's already running <2> headmonkey can i challange that. it may be the aluminum you taste more than the plastic..... just a thought. need to test against gl*** not aluminum. i remember the differance in the gl*** bottles <11> but its not .. <8> darn, Skunky beat me <4> gl***, aluminum, plastic....all taste different <12> Blue-Steel: yes, it is. or SOMETHING is running on port 443. <5> somtimes it takes a few minutes until the kernel will allow you to reopen a listening socket <4> gl*** tastes the best <8> intelikey: I've tried alum, plastic, gl***, freshly packaged with water from the tap that goes into a common vessel first, gl*** and alum. taste much different than plastic. <5> it will say it's in use, but it's really not <11> netstat -nap | grep 433 says no its not :P <4> aluminum second, plastic third <10> headmonkey: you're on gl***! <8> takes about 1 hour for the plastic to be tastable <11> *443 <4> if they all taste different, at least 2 of them are leeching <4> alumunum is sprayed internally with epoxy <2> hey i'm no plastic adfocate. <4> er..aluminum <2> advocate <4> i look at it this way...odds are...i shouldnt be drinking the contents ( soda, beer, etc ) in the first place <5> unless it's "water" <4> i dont even trust bottled water <2> wow that's rad ! <10> ioactive <10> :P <4> its the lesser of many evils of course...but its sold for profit, so i dont trust it implicitly <2> and the clorine in the water is not good either. <5> i'm saying you should be able to trust it, not that you should trust it <12> clorine in the water is better than letting the little thingies grow in the water instead. <4> cool...a opossum just walked by <5> little thingies don't grow in my water (or i'm immune to them, either way, it's good :)) <4> like i said, when i build my house, its gonna have a nice deep well, the water is gonna get filtered, treated, and stored, and im gonna have enough supply to last months <5> be careful with "treated" <12> headmonkey: nice idea. where you gonna live? <4> Kevin`, i know...i'll do the research <4> Skunky, anywhere outside of suburbia ;) <4> Kevin`, UV light for starters <5> that uv light gets into the water, you know =p <4> sure it does ;) <2> lol <4> im hoping i turn into the incredible hulk ;) <5> lol <5> gamma radiation would kill more, you know :)
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