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<0> gufymike: And that's only when the benchmark is the actual task.
<1> OOnly those set to process alot of data
<2> Running gentoo on a server, ROFL
<0> gufymike: All servers.
<3> Quiznos: ok i am trying to boot cd from grub, i have found this,http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=15617&hl=grub&st=0 know where i can get the all important bcdf.bin
<4> HP seem to be the only idiots out there who build printers to be opened up from the inside
<4> i had to pull one apart today
<5> hello world
<4> Hello Aleo
<6> bcdf is ***oc'd with grub?
<3> *world says hello*
<5> cool ;)
<4> OOo is the answer!
<2> Arafangion, just restart the spooler service



<1> Ash-Fox: it would be a decent idea, IF gentoo portege maintainers actually took security updates seriously enough to have them out withing a couple days of release
<6> netsurf3 bcdf is ***oc'd with grub?
<4> i actually get pretty good uptime out of Xp
<0> Ash-Fox: Printers are working fine, just not MS Office.
<1> again the withing.. within*
<4> yeah, i just boot it up and never touch it again
<2> gufymike, I had a friend who was running gentoo on a server for a year, things kept breaking
<4> don't connect to the net, never insert a cd/floppy/flash disk, and never insert a keyboard or mouse
<4> man, you will fly high with that uptime!
<0> Ash-Fox: I have a suspicion that the 'power4 gear + technology' is giving it grief at times.
<5> heya mike
<6> Lunarctic in that vane, my mommy tried to p*** off a centronix cable to me
<6> netsurf3
<4> lol
<1> hey aleo
<6> Lunarctic she's in Fla.
<6> i'm not
<4> lol
<7> NICE!
<4> Fla?
<7> end goal achieved!!! woot!
<2> In my opinion, a system that has high uptime, is a system that hasn't had kernel updates
<4> lol
<6> i politely redirected to her former isp that she said was helpful or a thrift store
<1> your right Ash-Fox
<0> Ash-Fox: In my opinion, a system that continually requires kernel updates is crap.
<1> Thats the only time I really go down
<6> i told her I was "surrounded by snakes and dont need anymore"
<4> lol
<3> Quiznos: i have no idea
<1> Arafangion: you can't say that a kernel update is a bad thing
<6> netsurf3 kk
<6> netsurf3 hold
<0> Ash-Fox: One kernel update per year is about what I like.
<4> man, some of my windows-using friends take my "dissention" to linux as a sacrelige
<2> These days, you want to setup servers that have a failover, so you can pretty much take one down for maitenence, while the other handles everything normally. Then do the same with the other.
<3> what would you like me to hold :P
<4> "you'll be going to hell for this!"
<3> YOUR COMING WITH ME
<0> Ash-Fox: It's also a maintanance thing.
<7> Arafangion: kernel updates should be able to be patched on the fly, from an online source, and automatically. :o)
<4> lol
<0> linagee: Indeed
<7> lol
<3> i have a theory
<7> Arafangion: maybe like zen with lots of scripts. ;-)
<0> linagee: Well, not quite automatically. I don't mind how Debian does it.
<3> that hell is full of bondage crazed people
<4> rofl listen to this, "if osama bin laden isn't dead, and he isn't in afghanistan, then we believe he is in another country"
<0> linagee: I still want to investigate xen.
<4> man they really put some thought into that one
<7> xen/zen/whatever. :)
<3> hell yeah
<2> Lunarctic, the logic of that just overpowers me
<4> lo
<4> l
<8> can there be any risk/disadvantages updating a kernel on f.ex. a debian-machine (with important stuff running)?
<2> encore_, yes
<4> brb
<3> :( suse 10.1 is soo broken



<1> suse is broken because yast is broken
<2> encore_, same risks apply to any kernel update, important stuff or not.
<3> i like the new yast thogh
<1> iIMO yast is beyond repair (I hate its disfugration of the conf files)
<3> heh
<2> Lunux doesn't differentiate yet :(
<3> but nebies dont know where the config files are
<8> Ash-Fox: Well, that is true. :)
<2> *Linux
<1> netsurf they should learn :P
<3> so they need a program for the configuration
<3> hehe
<3> yeah but that puts people off
<9> uckk I'm hungry now
<2> It would be nice if there was actually a program that would check the hardware you have, and automatically select kernel options based on that hardware
<3> ie i want to add a module to boot up: where the hell would i go?
<0> Ash-Fox: It's called apt-get install linux-kernel-image-2.6.whatever :)
<9> edit /etc/modules ?
<0> Ash-Fox: It even updates lilo/grub for you :
<0> :)
<1> /etc/modprobe.conf or add a file called mymodule with the Alias myalias mymodule in /etc/modprobe.d/
<2> Arafangion, I've never seen that give me access to RAID hardware that's commonly used on x86 hardware and not PPC hardware
<3> diemos then what if it didnt exist
<9> look for /etc/module*
<8> i'll keep the newbiequestion coming: biggest difference between lilo/grub?
<3> gufymike now see unless you know what that layout is
<3> whatis an alias
<4> has anyone opened up one of the old X-Boxes?
<2> encore_, the name
<6> netsurf3 what are you booting, os-wise
<3> Lunarctic: you mean UBER brick?
<3> Quiznos: suse
<4> LOL
<3> but i need to chainload the cd
<6> netsurf3 from what?
<4> dude, wtf is the bubble on the bottom of the X-BOX CD-ROM
<6> netsurf3 why chain?
<3> how do you mean?
<2> (Other than being completely different implenentations, what are the differences? They both support p***words, they support doing the same stuff..)
<4> it kinda looks like Bill Gates was stashing his hash in the prototype
<4> and the design just stuck
<2> *implementations
<3> Quiznos: my cdrom is pcmica, does not support booting, sbm does not detect it
<10> encore_: lilo loads from prespecified points on the disk, grub supports fs structure and can thus boot kernels on random fs with random names
<4> well he must have been on hash the way that thing is designed
<6> netsurf3 whatis `sbm'?
<3> smart boot manager
<4> so boring, man? (s.b.m)
<6> ok
<0> koala_man: Grub does not support booting random file systems.
<4> lol
<0> koala_man: Random partitions, but NOT random file systems. Infact, it only supports a few file systems.
<6> netsurf3 so, you're booting via a grub-on-flop?
<3> i have it installed too
<8> ah, okay
<4> what, you wanna roll a die and boot the OS that it lands on?
<3> but i can use a floppy if needed
<1> diemos, modules.conf is the way of the past modules-init-tools use modprobe.conf and modprobe.d/ and and Alias is a for the system to have a unified name to handle things, ie eth0 is used through out the system configurations you want to tie the eth0 to the networking driver name instead of having to edit 100 files to match yoru driver name
<6> netsurf3 bios doesnt boot via cd?
<7> Lunarctic: nice system! lol
<4> lol
<8> damn, there is so much to learn in linux. :-P :)
<4> lol
<3> Quiznos: correct
<8> kinda looking forward to it though
<10> Arafangion: what? it can't read a partition with an unknown fs and parse it automagically using sophisticated ai?
<6> netsurf3 ok
<4> no theres not. linux = better than windows
<4> I hope you all paid attention - your exams are on monday
<3> crap
<3> i actualy do have one on monday
<4> linux is to windows as shakespear is to rofl dumples (1599-1670)
<4> rolf*
<6> netsurf3 http://www.ecn.ufu.edu/plug/mail_archive/0301/0084.html


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