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<0> runes: a book?
<1> i wanted to boot linux then use it to run things like Ultimate Boot CD and others
<2> coded1, i think its kind of impractical to boot something else from linux
<0> runes: what was socket 939??
<0> [21:50] <5> socket 939 x86-65
<0> [21:51] <5> x86-64 (oops)
<2> you can read it, write to your disk, and stuff, but booting
<2> i dunno
<3> i have Ultimate Boot CD, a good repair CD, too
<0> runes: [21:50] <5> socket 939 x86-65
<0> [21:51] <5> x86-64 (oops)
<0> sorry
<4> and i'm not talking about damnsmall
<4> its called dslinux for nintendo ds
<0> runes: http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html <-- says 3000+ is socket 939
<0> runes: you say 939 has 86-64
<3> it is, i have an amd64 3000+
<0> ohw wait. There are 2 versions
<3> it is the cpu i used to put my new box together
<5> SGL yes a great book Mark Minasi is well know for writings on programming, hardware etc...a lot of linux config uses hardware addresses not the windows friendly names so the book helps you in understanding that part of it
<1> ProN00b, what I want to do is have a machine boot via PXE (through ethernet) and be able to load what ever I want from there
<3> and, yes, it is socket 939
<5> SGL yes socket 939 is x86-64 architecture
<0> lo_tek: is that the same as amd mobile 64 3000+?
<1> Linux can set up the machine but I wanted to know if I can load other images from there
<3> socket 939 is also very upgradeable, too
<3> not sure about mobile-computing processors, though
<3> let me check
<1> is anyone using such a device / method?
<6> how do I set the "hidden" (and archive) file attributes from linux, on a vfat partition?
<3> coded1, you are talking about embedded os's within linux, it seems
<3> not sure about booting an .iso within an already loaded linux os, though
<2> coded1, i never worked with pxe, why can you only boot linux over it and not the iso you want ?
<1> this way I can boot via LAN and be able to reimage, install fresh XP, install fooBar, run tests etc
<2> coded1, you could boot into windows install with pxe, not ?
<5> SGL http://www.sybex.com/WileyCDA/SybexTitle/productCd-0782144314.html
<0> My chip is called "Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M processor" and of that a 3000+
<1> ProN00b, I've read up on a program called EtherBoot (OSS) that will pull a rom image and get the computer started it works well
<0> runes: cool. I tmay actually buy it because I'm very interested and I don't know enougha bout it :)
<5> SGL that's a true 64 bit on your laptop
<2> coded1, well, i don't know how to boot something from within linux, and that sounds like a hack to me, you should work at the pxe level, not boot linux and then work from there
<1> ProN00b, I wanted a little more flexibility but it has to be done before the system is booted so I can do diagnostics, (re)image, or install other os's
<5> SGL jsut get an older copy to start so long as it covers pci pcix and sata that's good enough to start
<1> just wanted to know if any one has encountered such a system
<1> no point on re-inventing the wheel :)
<0> ok
<1> it would be something like the DOS boot menu ... 1) windows XP install 2) diagnostics 3) ....
<1> but from the network not from a boot disk
<5> SGL checking the specs one more time sec
<2> coded1, there are multi boot dvd's, you could grab or make one of those with like a linux, a windows xp install, other stuff and let that boot from pxe
<1> ProN00b, sounds like a good place to start, thanks for the idea
<6> "mtools"
<3> it's been a while since i've visited tomshardware, heh
<3> can't get anything useful from it unless i subscribe
<3> i don't subscribe to anything much anymore cuz all they do is flood my email box
<3> so... i couldn't really find any info from on the amd64 3000+ mobile version of the chip
<5> SGL yup 64 bit
<0> 100%?
<0> :P
<0> why isn't there any proper documentation on this?
<0> it's terrible!
<0> first of all Mandriva should just have told me what to pick
<0> second of all AMD should just say what it is
<0> not this bs
<0> Thanks heaps for all your effort guys/girls
<0> I'll be back later
<2> how do i make a big file fast ?
<3> i guess mandriva just ***umes that most people know whether they have a 64-bit compatible processor
<2> like without prealocating the space
<5> SGL amd is encouraging their mainstream processors....the m cl*** are usually embedded by the motherboard manufacturer and it is ***umed that you will be using the os distributed by them..hence the dummy effect on their website
<7> hey there..can anyone suggest a distro that will simply get a telnet and ssh server installed right out of the box?
<3> ProN00b, you could whip up a bash script to make your big file
<2> lo_tek, eh, what ??
<1> iam8up, damnsmalllinux will dow it
<1> do it, livecd too
<7> i want to use this box to use the default ssh and telnet ports and just for basic examples of bash (ls, dir, cd)
<3> suse 10.0, fc5, mandriva, might work iam8up
<7> DSL has telnet?
<1> ssh for sure
<2> coded1, don't suggest dsl, its shiat
<7> mmm
<7> i tried dsl the other day and i couldn't get it to isntall on the hard drive for some reason
<7> i know it's a good drive, too
<1> use it as a liveCD just boot it
<1> theres alot of live distros that offer the same
<7> i did - then i wanted to install it on the hard drive and it just kept arguing with me
<1> what was the argument about?
<8> what's a good cd burning tool for linux? in kde?
<1> :)
<3> the problem i've seen with most liveCD's is that one might find it tricky to store any files created while using the liveCd to hard drive, so all that hard work can be lost unless one has a usb flash drive handy
<7> uhh...
<9> LoneWlf: k3b?
<7> i don't want to install to the hdd...
<2> LoneWlf, thats doesn't work, it can't be kde AND good
<7> wow, ProN00b just hates everythign today
<3> then a liveCD is EXACTLY what the doctor ordered for you, iam8up, if you want instant ssh
<2> iam8up, nah, but dsl and kde are things that make linux look bad
<10> I want to run a shell script using dialog on one of my tty's instead of getty. I don't seem to be able to figure out what I need to do to get stdin/stdout redirected properly to get it to run from inittab
<3> i use kde exclusively for my desktop
<3> i LOVE kde
<7> i thought kde was pretty nice
<3> k3b works fine, but there's a few bugs in it that are easily worked around
<7> i hadn't used it for a few years, but i just used it earlier this week and i thought it was nice
<8> I don't care about the desktop... revising previous statement what's an easy cd rom burning tool
<11> <-- wishes qT would take over gtk
<7> from teh prompt!
<3> i always pick the "TAO" write mode when doing .iso image burning
<2> if you want kde, install enlightenment, if you want gnome, install xfce, if you want blackbox, write your own window manager, thats the golden rules, lo_tek, iam8up
<7> enlightenment?
<3> well, i just use kde out of the box from the suse distro installed on this computer
<3> enlightenment is a window manager
<7> suse is dirty =/
<3> while kde is a desktop environment
<2> lo_tek, another mistake, suse
<3> whatever those tow terms mean
<3> suse works fine for me, ProN00b
<3> let's not even get started, ok?
<3> i'm sick and phucking tired of distro warz
<7> actually i was goign to go with compizy
<2> through its german quality work, its not as good as a real open source spirited distro like debian or even gentoo
<7> compizy is just so neat =)
<2> iam8up, isn't it compiz ?
<11> ProN00b: I don't have the kde themes if I use enlightnment, or a kbfx
<7> copmiz..
<7> something like that
<2> and isn't compiz for gnome only ?
<7> no
<2> gufymike, show me a good kde theme
<7> i've seen it on K(de)ubuntu
<11> http://sylvia.gufymike.com/New%20Theme/ ProN00b
<7> ProN00b: i like the one that's on dapper's kubuntu live cd
<7> ahh **** i didn't run this in screen
<3> irssi?
<2> gufymike, the usual kde icons sting in my eyes
<2> they are pimped up win98 icons
<7> it's a prompt irc client..
<11> ProN00b: I use the umicons 2.0 set
<11> I like those. I like the systray, I like klipper and I love dcop
<2> also, real men feel how their pc's load is, they don't spam their info on the desktop like you would if you controlled more than 3 boxes
<2> dcop ?
<3> well, like it or not, ProN00b, windoze runs on 90% of the home desktops in the world today and kde is a gentle introduction to the world of linux
<12> hey chaps
<12> anyone have any suggestions for a socks proxy server?
<9> hrm.
<11> Its the kde interface to the apps, makes scripting a lot easier
<9> Chinstrap: something like this...
<3> linux will NEVER achieve "world domination" unless it has a desktop that is a bit like windoze - aka kde
<11> tho it should accessible outside of kde
<9> Chinstrap: /bin/bash -login</dev/ttyS2&>/dev/ttyS2&
<11> lo_tek: I disagree, it can rule with e17 and or gnome
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