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<0> evidence here says the linux boxes are cheaper and more reliable. proof is in the real world, not funded TCO studies. Bosses like world proof
<1> that's like watching Fox News to get my "fair and balanced" opinions
<2> linux costs less OVERALL, but u spend more locally
<3> Where|here: Look for a line with Listen or listen in it
<2> if u hate spending locally, avoid FOSS
<4> no it doesn't
<5> why does linux have to cost more ?
<6> what is a better option, SMB or NFS?
<2> FOSS is about your ecnomy
<4> by the time you pay to train and support Linux, it cost lots more
<5> thats retarded
<2> economy
<3> How does one spend more locally?
<7> headmonkey: If you p*** the kernel --disable-instructions Linux tends to be much harder to administrate.
<0> rob, hahahahaa. ura funnee guy!
<8> arrummzen: where does the audiofile itself come from? let's say I have an audio file 'file.wav' that I want to convert to raw audio, how would I do that?



<2> linux never costs more overall
<4> most people already know Windows, so thats one huge cost gone
<5> training ? your gonna train people to use your windows apps
<3> I didn't need training to implement FOSS solutions
<2> headmonkey: ??
<9> CRAP
<9> There is currently no way to opt-out of these mailings; they are generated only if you have posted a Tracker item, posted a comment to a Tracker item, or are listed as the ***ignee of a Tracker item.
<9> just GREAT
<3> I would need extra training to do my job with just Windows
<9> i posted a comment to a VERY active tracker :)
<3> keleus: procmail it to /dev/null
<7> araizen: I don't know.... I am talking about the raw output from the system dsp...
<1> you don't have to retrain. just hire people who know what they are doing in the first place
<6> i figure since noone is answering, i'd better get involved in the conversation
<1> don't hire idiots. it's not that hard
<7> araizen: if you record something into a pic from /dev/dsp, then record something else, you can use cat to combine them into a file you can play.
<6> just what kind of jobs are you guys talking about?
<9> Brianetta: cant, its a remote shell account
<10> Brianetta: It just says "Listen 80" (for port 80); isn't that what one wants?
<3> fartmastr: Neither option is secure
<5> you can adapt to thrive in a free environment.....or you can adapt to exist in a slave state....its your choice
<6> Brianetta, i didn't mean secure as in secure. i meant secure as in, asks me for a un/pw
<6> that's good enough for me
<3> Where|here: In that case, it's listening to all interfaces, and your problem is external - if you can connect locally.
<7> headmonkey: in the slave state, do we get to be masters or slaves?
<2> let's all l*ck gates's ba**z
<10> Brianetta: okay; I'll look into it. Thanks!
<5> arrummzen, you get to be a slave that pays $5,000 for a piece of paper that says your a master
<3> fartmastr: NFS asks for nothing. It trusts the UID.
<8> okay thanks
<6> Brianetta, i could have sworn NFS wanted a p***word
<3> fartmastr: Nope.
<6> alright, thanks.
<2> computers are scary... let's just give more money to our current vendors... they wouldn't lie
<11> how to dissable one kernel module from loadint at boot time?
<3> Why would they? They're guaranteed our money...
<6> very simple question, do i need to install any samba packages to use smbmount (which is enabled in my kernel)
<12> Elektrochelovek: dunno about your distro but in gentoo i'd just comment it in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
<3> fartmastr: Yes
<13> Brianetta: Microsoft likes to lie alot...
<2> when i want smbfs i use more than kernel modules...
<14> hey rob could i have voice on #freenode-social?
<6> Brianetta, i don't like that!
<3> fartmastr: smbmount is rare in recent distros. Now they include mount.cifs
<3> You might need ot install a package for that.
<6> Brianetta, i've heard of cifs but i'm afraid to try to figure it out
<1> man when this guy isn't talking blaspheme he can really sing.
<3> fartmastr: It's SMB with frills
<15> i've setup /var/www/ as its own partition. when i mount it, /var/www/lost+found/ is created, which i obviously don't want. can i just remove this directory, or do i have to do something else?
<3> It isn't scary
<6> oh jeez!!
<1> wrong window:P
<3> litage: You can remove it, but fsck will probably re-create it if run.
<16> yo
<3> litage: It's where recovered unlinked files go.
<12> fartmastr: smb is what windows 95/98 use. cifs is what 2k/xp/etc use.. its pretty much the same thing except with some permissions support and probably other extras
<16> how can i map from a usb storage device, to the partitions it created?
<6> Triffid_Hunter, does samba know about that?
<5> and they renamed it from smb to cifs to confuse people, so they could sell more training
<2> samba > nt4



<15> Brianetta: makes sense. considering lost+found/ shouldn't be in apache's document root, what should i do?
<12> litage: removing has never caused me problems.. just gets recreated if there's something to put in it
<3> MrEntropy: Usually as a SCSI device - /dev/sd[abcd][12] etc
<3> MrEntropy: fdisk -l light spot them
<3> might
<3> litage: You can either remove it, or deny access with apache directory rules
<17> why are graphics cards getting better than my pc ?! Maybe linux should run on the graphics card all by itself
<15> thanks
<16> Brianetta: ok, but i want the exact partitions the usb storage created.
<12> fartmastr: samba can serve both protocols.. you need relevant support in your kernel for the client
<3> MrEntropy: Have a look in your syslog
<12> jalex: that's what the fuss over xgl is about
<6> can samba access a cifs, though
<3> fartmastr: yes, Samba 3 can.
<6> ah.
<17> Geforce 7950GX2,1GB GDDR3,PCI Express x16 --- vista capable!
<18> lmao
<18> I hate how they say that everything they put into it is new and no other OS has it
<0> degantyll, by the time vista comes out then next OSX will be released and mopping the floor with vista
<19> be glad they have things no other OS has
<19> blue screens and so...
<16> Brianetta: ok, but what if i want to do this in a script, surely you don't suggest i regex search the syslog
<3> OK, it's 3am locally and I have a train to catch in 6 hours.
<3> I'm off to bed.
<18> hahaha the new red screen xD
<13> degantyll: that's because M$ lives in their own little world
<2> current samba > samba3 isn't it?
<3> MrEntropy: I'd suggest you use coldplay or whatever system your distro has.
<18> herman_munster: hell yeah, I'm buying it
<0> degantyll, basically vista adds the 'prettyness' and security the OSX already has... and linux of course :)
<0> degantyll, you are an OSX user?
<3> night all
<18> well, not yet, but I've seen enough of the OSX to plan my next buy
<17> If Apple sold Mac OSX to run on intel platforms, even if there are limited drivers, I would use it
<18> I'd be more convinced if it ran still on those Macintoch CPUs
<0> degantyll, its pretty nice. I got my wife an iBook. She knows I won't help with windows machines :)
<18> herman_munster: hahahaha fair deal
<17> s/intel platforms/all intel platforms/g
<0> degantyll, i have no windows at home !
<17> I have two fedora5, one fedora4, slackware and a windows pc at home
<18> I'd love to say that.. but my brother uses it.. I can proudly say this machine isn't tainted with it, though ;)
<17> my wife uses windows =)
<2> jalex: ouch
<18> herman_munster: just one question..
<17> she'd be using a mac had they come out with the macbook before last march
<17> I spent about as much on a pc as a mac cost =)
<0> degantyll, yeah? quick. i've got a meeting in a sec
<18> herman_munster: is macintoch continue manufacturin their own machines? (with their own processors? or plain intel?)
<0> degantyll, going to intel. PPC (manufactured by IBM) is just about over
<18> =( that's sad news
<20> degantyll: apple. macintosh is a line of computers made by apple.
<21> you still there brian
<21> what you told me earlier don'
<21> t make sense
<21> it don't eem to wrk
<18> Skunky: yes, but I liked their architecture
<0> degantyll, agreed. looks like PPC couldn't keep up though. not sure really. i think it was future plans (intel vs ppc) that caused apple to switch
<21> does any one know the best way to copy a hard disk to another hard disk in linux
<18> herman_munster: =(, I'm going to try and get one of those machines before they are long gone
<2> brian|lfs: there are many
<18> still, I'm buying the next OSX for Intel
<0> degantyll, they're cool
<2> dd is popular
<18> herman_munster: I used one once, they are pretty fast
<2> but not end all be all
<2> i prefer dd
<21> whats the easiest
<19> it's the same or sparc. it's cool, but it gets more and more unimportant
<2> brian|lfs: for me dd
<21> how would I do it with dd


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