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<0> joobie: depends
<1> on?
<0> Basically - about the estimated round-trip time
<0> however
<0> it then backs off by a factor of 2 per next missing ack
<0> if there is no ack
<0> so it can get really slow very fast
<2> to
<0> google tcp/ip exponential backoff
<2> exponents ****
<0> Well...
<0> It needs to be pretty severe to do traffic control
<2> except when it comes to cracking p***words
<3> joobie: retransmits?
<3> hmm
<3> there's a timeout
<3> but not retrasmitting
<3> rather resetting the conenction
<0> If it doens't get an ack, doesn't it retransmit at some * current RTT?
<0> And then double the RTT estimate
<3> you mean RST
<0> Round Trip Time
<3> wait, if it doesn't get a syn/ack, it resets after a timeout
<3> 40 sec to 20 min
<0> yes - I'm ***uming this is in the context of an ongoing stream
<1> no
<0> So - you do get retransmits
<1> it shouldnt rst
<1> it should retry
<1> yea
<1> it is an established stream
<1> my problem is
<1> i have an established stream
<1> i see packets leave from a router
<0> I know the RST after no ack is wrong
<1> but they dont reach the other end
<0> as that doesn't happen when I lose my connection
<1> though when i dump traffic, i dont see the host retrying any packets that have not been ack'ed
<0> it is tcp?
<1> yes
<0> the connection just stalls?
<0> Might there be ICMP packets coming back - saying destination host unreachable?
<1> no speed
<1> SpeedEvil, even if there were and those were being dropped
<0> Hmm. I dunno. I'd really need some sleep before answering htis.
<1> the host should still retransmit because it did not recieve ICMP or ack's
<1> ehhe
<1> i understand
<0> Ok - anywya - I'm going to bed.
<1> it's been an ongoing problem
<1> dont expect a quick res
<1> but thanks for trying speed
<0> Maybe #windows? Or somewhere. This is of course a cross-platform thingy
<0> I dunno of a netowring channel
<1> no worries Speed
<1> thanks
<3> SpeedEvil: :P
<0> 10:36 here - about
<3> pm
<3> joobie: ##networking
<1> thanks
<3> !fortune
<4> If I'm doing something via ssh, what happens if the ssh net connection is lost while a program is running?
<4> Does the proggie just continue regardless?
<0> probably not
<0> man nohup
<0> and alternatively screen
<4> Okay, good.
<4> Thank you...
<3> hey AfterDeath
<3> stop ****ing around w/ the bot :P
<5> !manpages ooga booga
<5> nuthin
<4> !manpages emerge
<4> Wonder if he has os-specific stuff.
<5> headmonkey ide has a system specific man page browser
<5> it'll have full text search as soon as i finish the lib for it ;)
<4> why not just use apropos?
<4> Full text would be slow and would match stuff not really involved...
<5> because apropos ****s ;)
<5> full text isnt slow
<4> Full text is slower, for no reason other than there's more data.
<5> your thinking of someone elses full text lib, not mine ;)
<4> Tell me one search lib where searching through 500 lines of text is as fast as 1 line. :)
<5> its not slower because theres more data...that doesnt make sense
<6> hi there
<6> I need to update my libc in order for a program to run... how do I do that?
<5> it'll search 12,000 files and display the manpages relevant to whatever word you typed in, in well under a second
<4> DukeDrake: (insert package manager here) (insert install command here) (insert libc here)
<5> look at google...it indexes damn near the entire web and returns results instantly
<4> Or if you don't have a package manager, go to the libc site, and compile from source.
<6> I don't have a package manager installed
<3> cool, i xkilled amarok and it still keeps playing :D
<4> Ah. Download the source, tar -xvvjf libc-* && cd libc && ./configure && make && su -p make install
<6> is it possible to simply copy the libc from another PC?
<4> DukeDrake: You probably don't want to do that.
<6> =)
<4> DukeDrake: But I guess it would be, if the systems were close enough.
<6> don't have a gcc installed either
<4> DukeDrake: Well, get that one.
<6> my system's a i386, the other one a i586
<4> If you don't have a package manager, you *NEED* GCC.
<5> kamoricks, as far as matching stuff not relevant...i have a stop words list that gets checked after the lexer runs....so if you dont want a term in the index, you just delete it
<4> DukeDrake: Ah. Compile without optimizations on the other comp. Then it'll work fine.
<6> I only need ONE piece of software ^^
<4> headmonkey: Ah, cools...
<6> kamoricks: good idea
<4> headmonkey: I'm not saying that it's slow in the slightest... but I bet google would be faster if there were only 20 web pages.
<5> its not so much the size of the archive, as it is the algo involved....if you use an IDE, it only takes 10 seconds for it to find and index all your manpages once...after that....the search is instant
<5> if you update your manpages, just hit re-index
<0> @find thraxas
<3> is it just me or did the posts on comp.os.announce become ****ING boring?
<0> @find margaret ball
<5> doing it this way...allows manpages to be linked together as well, like man2html does
<3> s/comp.os/&.linux.
<0> Oh dear.
<0> ww
<4> If I'm using a AMD Athelon, should I use -march=i686 or -march=k7?
<0> k7
<7> morning...
<4> SpeedEvil: Thanks..
<4> But CHOST should remain i686-pc-linux-gnu?
<8> hey
<8> can anyone help me with azureus?
<0> I dunno - I know the athlon is more k7 than...
<8> I want to download a magnet link
<4> well, the reason... Ah, it's borking on both. Gotcha.
<4> Dunno WHY my gcc can't compile for a k7. gcc: invalid argument to -march (K7)
<4> Also with k7...
<9> hello
<9> why is minix...supposed to be small...a 294MB download
<5> 294 mb is small compared to a 5 cd linux distro ;)
<1> try DSL if you want ultra small
<1> i think it's around 50MB
<1> DSL - Damn Small Linux
<9> im interested only in minix...
<9> has anyone got any experience
<10> heh menuet os fits on a floppy
<10> but not linux
<3> the mentor
<3> :P
<3> hacker's manifesto?
<3> :P
<9> no sir
<1> at ease thementor
<9> so hav to tried an older version
<11> hi, how to flush my dns table?
<11> e.g in windows, I say ipconfig /flushdns and it will do
<11> what about linux?
<10> what stuff uses the packaging system database other than Adept?
<12> Where is the main function of the kernel???!
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