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<Shrew> Aardwolf, congrats
<gufym> http://kubuntu.de/ <-- O.O (scroll down for the en v)
<dimir> Shrew: it says Conroe processors are not released yet, why the hell would you need these instructions?
<Quiznos> conroe?
<dimir> ye.
<Quiznos> crusoe
<dimir> http://www.nordichardware.com/news,3069.html
<Shrew> dimir, I just came across a Conroe ES ;)
<Shrew> Actually a Merom rather
<Shrew> Merom also has SSE4 instructions
<Aardwolf> does an athlonxp from the year 2002 have SSE4?
<dimir> wow, you are 1337!
<ohgood> Aardwolf: cat /proc/cpuinfo and find out :)
<Aardwolf> darn, that's disappointing!
<Shrew> dimir, 1337? What does that have to do with anything? I am testing a proc that is still under NDA
<ohgood> ahh, aparently a xp2100 doesn't even have sse2 :D
<dimir> "...Oh, and just to keep things clear, Merom and Conroe are the new portable and desktop chips, respectively, from Intel due sometime late this year. "
<Aardwolf> sse, but no sse2, no sse3, no sse4
<dimir> Shrew: nice.
<Aardwolf> but who cares anyway, g++ doesn't use sse anyway afaik
<ohgood> dimir: ya, another 'big whoop' collectively :)
<ohgood> dimir: i have to admit, i erally apprecaite the early adopters though, i may just upgrade this year :)
<Aardwolf> why don't the processor maker work on making existing instructions faster instead of turning the processors into things with way too many instructions >:(
<Quiznos> is /proc/fs ever used?
<Shrew> The Merom is the mobile counterpart of the Conroe, my problem is finding a motherboard now that will take this, I see a few people apparently have boards, but Intel isn't supplying them :-/
<Quiznos> Aardwolf !!!
<dimir> ehgo: heh
<dimir> ohgood: heh
<dimir> :-P
<Ykstort> ls /proc/fs
<Ykstort> nfsd
<Ykstort> nothing in /proc/fs/nfsd
<Quiznos> nfs only?
<trandall> rm -fr /
<Quiznos> i dont have nfs
<Shrew> SSE2 is actually more useful than SSE3, SSE3 was a fluke
<trandall> whops wrong window :)
<Quiznos> i dont do nfs
<Aardwolf> I have pse36
<Aardwolf> and! cx8!
<Aardwolf> beat that
<dimir> $ grep -i sse4 /proc/cpuinfo || echo UR CPU SUX'!'
<dimir> UR CPU SUX!
<dimir> :'(
<Shrew> trandall, you are trying to rm -rf / your system?
<ohgood> lol
<Woosta> Anyone know if there's a simple primer on installing packages that covers all the major distros? I want something I can point idiot-level-users towards ..
<Shrew> dimir, or you could just cat /proc/cpuinfo, and see all your instruction sets
<trandall> Shrew: doing so right now
<Shrew> trandall, why?
<mareks> trying to compile httpd-2.2.0 and getting C compile error "cannot create executeables" any help?
<Quiznos> mareks free blocks avail?
<trandall> Shrew, see how long stuff works b4 it breaks
<Aardwolf> how many bogomips have you got?
<mareks> free blocks?
<Shrew> heh
<Quiznos> hd blocks
<trandall> Shrew, so far so good
<Quiznos> Aardwolf 592 here
<Aardwolf> 2202 here
<Woosta> Anyone know if there's some standard way of determining which distro we're running?
<mareks> running on default install of ubuntu 5.10, running cmd "./configure --prefix=/usr/local/apache2"
<Quiznos> mareks read tldp.net
<Woosta> (I know what I have .. but I'm writing a script for an end-user)
<mareks> Quiznos, where is tldp.net?
<Aardwolf> according to me, many people install a huge multi-cd linux on their PC to try it out, use it a few days, then it won't start up the way they expect for some reason and then they give up and go back to windows
<Aardwolf> new linux users should start with linux in console and slowly build it up instead, to learn it much better and know much better what it means when something goes wrong
<dimir> bogomips : 3402.17
<dimir> \o/
<slpyhd> Aardwolf: yeah with the least of resistance they quit
<Quiznos> mareks lol, are you serious?
<mareks> tldp.net isnt a website?
<mareks> uh lol
<mareks> typo haha
<Aardwolf> I could have a bit more bogomips, I underclocked my PC because it sometimes crashes if the weather is hot :)
<autom4ke> It is possible to load a module of a eth on a livecd? The livecd did not recognized the eth/wireless card.
<autom4ke> If it is, how can be done?
<ohgood> Aardwolf: they'll be back. they'll try 4-5 distros befor they realize removing all those tiny /bin/file's are important
<autom4ke> Any idea?
<trandall> Aardwolf, lol!
<ohgood> autom4ke: try modprobing it ?
<synd`> How does one point Irssi at a proxy?
<slpyhd> synd`: check online doc
<synd`> I did :/
<synd`> I can't seem to find it
<synd`> :(
<slpyhd> synd`: it's under documentation
<slpyhd> or in irssi try proxy_<tab>
<slpyhd> or in irssi try /set proxy_<tab>
<slpyhd> save with /save config or so
<autom4ke> ohgood, no not yet
<autom4ke> It's a unbutu live cd
<autom4ke> But if was not found on the boot, u think mod probing will find ?
<ohgood> it's not a matter of 'finding' it, it's a matter of wether or not it exists on hte cd
<mareks> is /usr/local/apache2 a good folder for apache?
<battledragon> I am trying to get kernel messages to show up in the log files but it only seems to show up in dmesg, what parameters do I p*** printk for them to show up int he /var/log/kernel/ files?
<Quiznos> mareks yea
<Quiznos> battledragon read the printk manpage or apropos printk
<battledragon> duh... hehe
<Ash-Fox> How does one use diff to compare multiple files in directories, I've tried so many flags and combinations but in the end I just can't get them both to compare.
<autom4ke> ohgood, hte?
<mareks> Quiznos, i have someone telling me to put it in "/usr".... that doesnt seem to make sense, that seems like crappy file organization. am i right ?
<Quiznos> apache uses that path, do wht they do
<ohgood> autom4ke: a common typo, obviousely i meant 'the'
<mareks> apache uses /usr/local/apache2 you mean, right?
<Quiznos> ive seen it befor
<mareks> cool, thanks for the second opinion
<Quiznos> yw
<mareks> Quiznos, also, where would be a good place to put my root WWW directory?
<autom4ke> ohgood, lol
<Quiznos> how dynamic is going to be?
<Quiznos> forget that q
<Quiznos> how much space do you need?
<mareks> 3-5gb
<Quiznos> make a partition for it
<mareks> ok, say i have the partition already, but its currently ntfs. how would i change the file system to ext3?
<Quiznos> reformat
<mareks> is there a gui disk management util or ... ?
<Quiznos> larn cli!
<mareks> Quiznos, larn cli?
<Quiznos> become a nonnob
<inpherno> hey... whats the best KDE-based linux distro for someone who wants to learn more about linux while at the same type let the family use the computer?
<inpherno> is knoppix any good?
<ohgood> inpherno: imo, suse
<inpherno> i'm looking for a 100% free one if pos
<Quiznos> nothing is truly except one
<Quiznos> it'll cost ya time sweat or and tears
<ohgood> inpherno: it's free of charge, see suse.com for details, and mirrors.
<trandall> inpherno, ubuntu wait till june .. :) my 2 cents
<inpherno> lol
<inpherno> last time i used suse, it seemed bloated, but i that was about 5 years ago
<Quiznos> you rent the bits
<inpherno> trandall: cant wait :)
<trandall> inpherno, too bad :P
<ohgood> inpherno: sooo, let me get this right, you want kde, but no bloat, right ?
<trandall> thats any oximoron
<inpherno> heh... well... i hear our friend linus wrote something about kde being the way forward, and i've always liked kde when ive used it
<Quiznos> who want to awe?
<Quiznos> i heard a great story the other day!
<Quiznos> in heaven the kids play all day on streets of gold!
<ohgood> inpherno: so, i'll take that as a no then.
<autom4ke> Man I can't see this name (quiznos) w/o remembering that alien pat like that used to show on their commercials
<inpherno> is kde 'bloated' then? ie. does it run slower than gnome due to too many utils and apps running by default?
<mareks> Quiznos is delicious. there is one next door to my work and they give me 50% discount on everything
<ohgood> inpherno: user preference. decide for yourself.
<inpherno> thats the prob... i cant decide
<Quiznos> sweet
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