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<0> i installed puppy to hd (that was a task! there was a slight bug in the cd)
<1> which puppy lo_tek?
<0> 2.0
<2> sounds like SuSE
<1> eww
<1> try 109ce
<1> brb
<1> me boss is racing her forklift around.
<0> yeah, Shadow_7, i even found a bug in yast2, a minor one albeit
<0> when you use yast2 to add a samba user, yast2 says it successfully did it, but it didn't actually do it
<3> sue
<0> so i had to use samba's cli frontend to add the samba user
<2> SuSE is script hell
<0> it is
<2> most of tldp.org doesn't apply
<4> s/script //
<0> suse has so much **** in their init/startup scripts, it's not even funny
<5> is there a way to backup a mysql database to another computer without locking the databases ?
<0> suse is like bash script hell when it comes to start up
<6> phace: not reliably
<6> phace: AFAIK
<1> wee
<3> phace, just copy the directory. always seems to work. just make sure that the db is not in use. i.e. shutdown mysql ?
<0> bsdirl, you oughtta try the lfs livecd if you like a really small linux footprint
<5> pheorehs: well I'm not supposed to shut down the service because it's being accessed every 10 seconds :S
<0> it's a minature os in itself, heh
<5> it contains over 45.000.000 rows...
<1> hmm
<0> dayum, phace!
<3> phace, dunno then
<1> nothing to try it on :{
<1> Im gonna dualboot my box puppy/freebsd
<6> phace: Can you make it read-only temporarily, while copying?
<6> say at 4AM
<1> i wiped windows yesterday because the new wine is so good
<0> you don't have a box to use, bsdirl? how are you in this channel, then?
<3> phace, accessed for read or write ?, it's just read, then just copy the db as it is
<1> im at work lol
<0> k
<0> i've done freebsd
<0> not a bad os
<5> with mysqldump or hotcopy ?
<1> freebsd 5.3 was nice.
<0> but i still prefer linux
<0> 5.3 was what i tried
<1> i like their config files, ee, and the stripped versions of kde/gnome
<1> that **** ws lean
<7> okay, so enemy territory runs as root, and I think I might have a general idea why
<1> oh btw
<0> dang, i've got a whole collection of cd's of os's that i burned, lol
<7> trying a fix off google, someone said to do /set +snddevice /dev/dsp
<7> so I did
<1> i got the win32 mmorgp ultima online to run in wine perfectly :>
<1> lo_tek: fedex that **** lol
<7> but maybe it shouldn't be using dev/dsp
<7> what does it use by default?
<7> (or what could it use that might work?)
<1> try /dev/audio
<0> and my ***-whoopin' new system has a combo dvd/cd writer/reader drive, too
<1> brb work.
<0> so now i can burn dvd's, too, whenever i get around to it
<2> most use /dev/dsp by default. It's an OSS hold over.
<8> hello
<2> You'll need alsa's oss emulation to make it work in most cases.
<7> /dev/audio is no
<7> yeah, I don't know how to use oss emulation...
<8> could anyone please tell me if using dvd-rams is reliable in Linux? All I get is freaking corrupted dvd-rams, all the time
<9> hi bsdirl
<2> cdr and dvdr's have a shelf life. Most times 18 months. Depending on UV exposure.
<10> how do I tell how much free space a partition has from the shell?
<11> only 18 months?
<9> df
<9> tempered, df
<10> UV and moisture
<1> hi2u
<9> d(isk) f(ree)
<1> busy brb
<10> thank you hanumizzle
<8> Shadow_7: all of mine are brand new. And the files work fine when I copy them inside windows
<2> I seem to always get the new box that was already ruined before I bought them from the store.
<7> *shrug* I guess I'll play as root...
<2> you could always lsof /dev/dsp
<2> and see if it's being used by something.
<7> ------- sound initialization -------
<7> /dev/dsp0: No such file or directory
<7> Could not open /dev/dsp0
<7> ------------------------------------
<2> sounds like you don't have oss or oss emulation.
<2> ls -al /dev/dsp0
<7> I keep hearing that but I still don't know what it is :P
<7> yeah, it probably doesn't exist
<7> I think maybe the reason it works for root is because root has default settings...
<2> mknod c 14 3 /dev/dsp0
<7> I'll try deleting the file in ~
<2> is the user part of the audio group?
<2> it's root:audio for owner:group on mine.
<10> what are the limits in the number of files per filesystem and per directory? I know it's dependent on the actual type of filesystem, but don't know how to tell.
<7> don't know, should be, all my other audio works
<7> bingo
<7> the problem was that stupid /set command
<7> I deleted the config file and it went back to whatever snddevice it uses by default
<7> thanks a lot Shadow_7
<12> tempered: very big.
<10> will 100 million files be ok? with about 3 million per directory?
<13> tempered: try it out
<10> I am, but it takes 7 days to create that many files
<10> I'm on day one
<14> if you have 100 million files, with 3 million per directory, perhaps you havent designed your storage scheme well enough to implement it yet
<14> 3 million files in a single directory is going to take forever to open/close a file
<10> I thought linux didn't read files like that?
<14> how do you think it reads files ?
<10> meaning I thought directory size did not play an important factor in file open/close times
<14> it does
<14> no matter what os your on
<14> again, why do you think you need 3 million files in a single dir ?
<2> I windows conks out at about 9,000 or so files.
<10> I don't, but I want to know what the limits are and what happens when those limits are reached. You answered part of the question, huge speed decrease
<14> tempered, it depends on the type of filesystem your using
<14> reiserfs is supposedly better and lots of small files
<14> s/and/at
<15> I would think a standard IDE drive would die if it have to write 3 millon files
<10> these are small, like 10k or less
<10> uh oh :) then I might just blow that drive. From heat? or wear?
<2> You probably can't open more than 16 bits 65536 of files at a time per app.
<14> tempered, your gonna waste a huge amount of disk space keeping them in seperate files
<2> file handles and all that.
<16> from the reiserfs site: "Do you want a million files in a directory, and want to create them fast? No problem."
<10> lol
<14> koala_man, yeah...quote the parts from the reiserfs website about how software objects want to mate with each other, and the geopolitical stuff ;)
<10> is there a command to see how many files are in a directory?
<2> ls | wc -l
<16> headmonkey: why do that when I could give advice based on oddball ***umptions
<14> "Is it so surprising that this evil casts its shadow on cyberspace? Is it so surprising that our cybershadows also find ways to engage in social lockout of others? Most of the cyber-world of software lives under tyranny today."
<17> hey guys. what on the grill today.
<14> hans reiser is a freak ;)
<14> help help my linux box is being tyranized !
<17> thinks he's some kind of super genius.
<0> ext2 ****s if the power goes kaput during a thunderstorm
<10> ls | wc -| gave me a > sign
<15> I'd use ext2/3 but it takes longer to format larger partitions
<10> but ls | wc seems to work
<1> i dont even know what is supposed to make reiser so good :|
<17> I use a combination of ext 2/3 an reiser
<15> never really had that trouble with ext2 losing data
<14> tempered, again, why do you want 3 million files in a single dir ?
<10> this is showing about 60k files per directory, pages come up instantly almost when I serve them with apache
<10> I know it will never hit 3Million
<0> tempered, it's "ls | wc -l", NOT "ls | wc -|", lol
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