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<0> it'd be nice to read a review of them by Bruce Schneier or something rather than have to pore through bugtraq archives to see if they're respected as much as that Gobbles idiot ;)
<1> They are a lil bit of a script kiddies site they provide the exploits for downloadable pleasure
<1> they provide alot of scripts for things of that nature, its maksed by being a security info site, but tbh I don't use them for info, just to find toys
<0> gufym: well, I'm all for full disclosure, so that in and of itself I don't mind so much. I just don't want to be seen as a script kiddie tools author
<1> Look through the archives, alot of tools we use daily are there also, along side of the toys
<0> ok, good.
<0> That idiot John Vranesevich doesn't like them, so they must be good ;)
<1> :P
<2> packetstorm is an archive for security tools, it contains the good, the bad and the kiddo ones
<2> its quite complete but still unordered
<2> most people know it
<0> yeah, I think I'll just have them relocate it
<1> One of my fav toys I found is there, it "reflects" back ssh connects, well what it supposed to do is make a user think they are connected to your ssh box but supposed to redirects the commnads back to them
<0> hopefully one would notice that fairly readily... :b
<0> but probably not.
<2> gufym, sounds like a simple tcp relay ?



<2> i would get suspicious if someone had the same p*** as i do
<3> that ssh thing is only good against ssh version 1.0
<3> not against ssh version 2.0 which is what most people use today
<4> ProN00b: it has nice **** :)
<4> liek the still unfixed q3a poof
<5> hmm back
<6> hi folks ... any makefile gurus here?
<5> lol i cnt believe this
<4> tried it on a couple
<5> i can code c, perl
<5> and php
<5> yet im having probs with HTMl
<4> it's been out for a couple of months
<5> LOL
<6> i'm trying to obtain a wildcard for a list of files that do not exists until make is run
<6> http://www.tlhiv.org/tmp/gear/Makefile
<2> slpyhd, whats a "q3a poof" ?
<4> tlhiv: stallman just left to a gpl3 speech
<6> from the makefile, ./tlhmpost generates about 13 output files
<4> it makes q3a servers poof
<6> is he the only one in here with the knowledge to help?
<4> restart
<3> funny you mention make, tlhiv, i'm reading the o'reilly book on make, but no, i'm not one to ask
<4> (remotely)
<2> quake 3 dos ? slpyhd ?
<4> yes find it in the archives
<4> it's fun
<3> but from what i've read, tlhiv, what you need is to ensure that the wildcard list doesn't run until the files are created by make
<6> yeah ... and i'm not sure how to do that ... i know there are variable declarations and using = and := give immediate and deferred declaration
<6> but it's not working as expected
<2> filename, slyphd ?
<3> only thing i could tell you, tlhiv, is to go through those variable declarations really carefully
<6> i have
<3> those variables can make make really hairy really fast, heh
<3> go over them again, and again
<6> i have ;)
<3> one time isn't enough usually
<3> how big is the make file?
<6> and i've been writing makefiles for a while
<6> it's just that i haven't tried this before
<6> very small
<3> i'm just starting out on make
<6> http://www.tlhiv.org/tmp/gear/Makefile
<3> thanx, tlhiv, let me check it out
<6> the problem is that $(MPDF) is wacked
<3> k, give me a minute....
<6> lo_tek: do you have the command `most`?
<6> mpost
<1> lo_tek, you're supposed to have it running on your box as a protection, not to get into anyone elses box
<0> lame. because of that, I'm also on like astalavista.box.sk and other crap sites.
<5> lmao
<5> astalavista.box.sk
<0> oh well, can't email them all.
<5> LMFAO
<1> ouch infi
<0> MattBibby: yeah, it's the serious wrong side of the tracks on the net
<0> popups, spyware, and trash galore on that site.
<3> tlhiv: no, don't seem to have 'most' on this box
<6> mpost
<5> yeh lol true security sites arent that crap



<3> patsubt = pattern substition?
<6> yes
<3> i know i'm new to make, but my "beginner's luck" instinct is thinking that maybe the 'make' statement inside the makefile might be a mistake?
<3> doesn't seem right somehow to execute the 'make' statement right inside the makefile itself
<0> MattBibby: I hope you turned off all of your java and scripting stuff before you visited it ;)
<6> lo_tek: there's nothing wrong with that
<3> tlhiv: that recursion stuff seems... incestuous somehow, lol
<0> lo_tek: Run "info make Recursion" and read up on how it's supposed to work. You can actually screw it up somewhat readily.
<7> morning
<8> Linus is a character in hercules? ROFL
<9> night
<3> nite, AnMaster
<3> tlhiv: i get a queasy feeling seeing any sort of recursion in ANY kind of routine be it make, C programs, what have you
<6> that shouldn't bother you
<3> tlhiv: i just found a pdf file on the net that disagrees with you - it's written by a professional
<6> hehe
<6> ok
<3> he hates recursive makes
<6> i could write something too
<6> i'm a professional mathematician
<3> i know a bit of math up to basic partial derivatives, but recursion still makes me queasy, lol
<10> anyone know of a good multithreaded nntp client? (something that has been worked on since august 2003?)
<6> lo_tek: very little math bothers me and recursive algorithms certainly don't bother me
<5> math is easy
<5> its just numbers
<5> and logical operators
<6> MattBibby: actually very little i do deals with numbers ;)
<5> discrete mathematics?
<5> :)
<11> does anyone knows how to delete a raid, for example md0 with mdadm ?
<3> MattBibby: numbers math is just arithmetic most of the time
<3> REAL math consists of defining relationships between quantities that follow a given pattern
<12> lo_tek: "given pattern"? you need to read some Wolfram. :-)
<13> as opposed to fake math, i guess.
<3> lol
<3> bronze: i'm familiar with Wolfram, thank you
<3> tlhiv: you have a custom-made script in the makefile - ./tlhmpost ??
<3> has anyone been reading the global messages issued by lilo?
<12> lo_tek: did you read the book?
<12> lo_tek: Yes, been seeing lilo's msgs. Is there something you want tell ?
<13> we all see them
<3> bronze: the mathematica handbook? if that's what's you're referrig to, no i haven't
<3> *referring
<3> but i'm familiar with the website wolfram has that's sort of a big man file on various math subjects
<14> Mathworld
<3> that's it!
<4> dead cold metal
<4> spielerei: Silencer, Death Pierce Me, Taklamakan
<3> tlhiv: change the '$<' variable to '$^' maybe? just an idea...
<15> ...and people say mathematicians don't have any creativity in them.
<16> who says that?!
<3> hey Dagmar
<15> Geometry geeks are no better.
<3> sorry for leaving so abruptly earlier, but my ladyfriend said that we were going to lunch, heh
<15> no biggie
<3> so off i had to go, lol
<15> I wander in and out all the time
<16> of consciousness?>
<3> when she says we're going, we go
<3> right NOW, lol
<3> sha256sum: something like that, lol
<16> hehe
<3> resistance is futile, heh
<16> and gets you no *****, either
<16> :D
<16> cat got your tongue, so to speak?
<16> heh
<3> sha256sum: if you want peace in the house, you do not resist
<3> hehe
<17> whos brilliant idea was it to redirect the forwarding to ##linux?


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