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<0> I like simple, clean etc
<1> biello: find him and start talking? :)
<0> I dislike gnome,kde and whatnot
<2> biello, just do netsend.... or is that windows only...
<3> Theef: i love flux. i used it for a long time
<1> Theef: try console only
<3> Theef: did you try to run xorgconfig after you installed?
<4> GiGaHuRtZ: i think it's windows only..
<2> Does anyone know what symphon uses for an GUI? is looks like a windows xp ripoff...
<0> I thought i mentioned above i did xorgconfig :P
<0> and yes, i did, still no workey = /
<2> symphony*
<5> jim, how can i remove it?
<3> i might have missed it. my bad
<0> meh np i type to much lol
<6> I wonder if anyone here is running Xgl, and what kind of drain it puts on a machine ?
<3> i've worked a 14 hour shift tonight, i'm about half with the program
<1> _jose: try dpkg -r s3savage-driver
<5> jim, doesn't work, it says the package has to be reinstalled
<3> Theef: if you like a minimilistic desktop, try out ratpoison. that's about as minimal as you can get lol
<2> biello, net send works in *nix
<2> just tried it...
<1> _jose: try dpkg --force-overwrite -i s3savage-driver_1.1.23t-1_i386.deb
<1> then you must have something called net installed
<1> you -might- want to read its man page :)
<0> thats a bit _to_ minimalistic haha
<4> GiGaHuRtZ: it sends a message to the window manager?
<0> it looks like a console :D
<2> i donno, try it :)
<3> it pretty much is Theef. but you can run GUI apps within it
<2> crap
<2> nvm
<2> jims right
<2> hehe
<5> jim, still thows some errors.
<2> there isnt net send for 8nix
<6> Theef: need minimal? fluxbox, openbox3, blackbox, they all work nicely
<2> *nix
<0> ye i'm starting with flux :P looking @ vector right now
<1> _jose: show them (with LANG=C)
<3> windowmaker isn't too shabby either
<0> is vector optimized for i686?
<3> but flux is probably my favorite
<7> I like xfce
<3> flux or ratpoison
<0> hm
<5> jim, http://pastebin.com/545075
<1> you don't need every program you got optimized for your processor... represents too much work by the dist maker for little or no gain
<8> I used to use blackbox but at some point you get tired of manually adding stuff to menus that you want to use
<2> biello, in ssh you could always type "reboot", he might get the message :P
<6> MrPrimate: ya. fluxmenu fluxconf, etc make it easy
<4> hahahah
<3> vector gives a lot of window manager options. flux, blackbox, windowmaker, icewm, etc
<0> closed the wrong window :(
<7> jim: which is why gentoo is a load of crap :D
<7> yes, sir
<6> (:
<2> i agree gentoo is crap...
<9> lol sha1sum only if you think changing compile options is all gentoo is good for
<0> Which .iso do i download? VL-5.1-std.iso ? or the RC2 Oo
<2> no
<2> soho
<2> not standard
<7> Triffid_Hunter: okay, I'll bite... what else?
<0> isn't that an office edition?
<8> vote: ugliest window manager?
<0> Gnome.
<0> lol
<6> MrPrimate: explorer
<7> fvwm
<8> ohgood, hehe :]
<2> theef, it comes with more stuff :/ which can be helpful
<0> I used gnome on one of my first live cd's -.-
<0> resource happy sob/
<10> rat poison ;-)
<3> i'm using Std. Theef
<1> twm
<9> sha1sum: the dependency management is simply superior, since you can turn compile time dependencies on and off at your leisure
<8> twm is pretty damn ugly
<0> giga like what? :P
<7> Triffid_Hunter: I can do that with freebsd
<5> jim, ?
<0> I was kind of hoping for some dev tools sincei i'll be offline
<9> sha1sum: gentoo's package manager is based on ports.. ;)
<8> I wouldn't say gnome is ugly -- it might be slightly bloated, but it looks ok
<2> i dont know, but ive seen people have problems with standard, it might just be them though
<2> i prefer xfce4
<6> GiGaHuRtZ: got shots ?
<1> you could try removing the driver file yourself and try instaling again
<2> ohgood, shots?
<7> Triffid_Hunter: now that I didn't know :) I have, however, tried gentoo, and it took too much time for not enough benefit
<6> screenshots
<2> of symphony?
<6> xfce4, yours
<0> Symphony OS looks ***ay ><
<5> should i delete the .deb file?
<0> I was looking @ screens while choosing a distro
<1> no!
<7> I mean, sure, once you get it up and running, I'm sure it runs good, but the whole point is getting there is just a pain in the royal ***
<1> the driver file it's trying to replace
<2> ya i could do some if you want me to walk over to my other machine...
<5> jim, how do i do that?
<7> xfce4 is what I use... it's the shizzle for rizzle
<0> jstg: Which ver of standard do you have?
<1> man rm
<5> where is the file?
<2> but im trying to figure out what symphony uses for GUI first :)
<6> sha1sum: just like any unix though, making a backup (once installed) is easy enough, and replacing a system is much less painfull. :)
<3> Theef: 5.1
<1> it shows the location in the message you're getting
<7> ohgood: I will agree with that
<9> sha1sum: there's no doubt that it takes a while to install, but I love how it doesn't tell me I require arts to install kde, and that i can install samba without kerberos support if i wish, and I've found that once I have a system basically set up, the compile time is worth the advantages that compiling everything brings
<1> like 3 times even :)
<0> hm am i childish for giggling a bit?
<0> the filename has "std" in it
<0> teehee :(
<6> sha1sum: if you have some bsd time under your belt, maybe you could help me figure out why every bsd install cd i've tried locks up shortly after booting ?
<7> ohgood: but I was installing it on my business workstation at work, and it was just taking up way too much of my company's time trying to install it on one machine... and to think, I was thinking about installing it company-wide (about 75 machines)
<9> lol ohgood that's been my experience of em too
<6> sha1sum: distcc!
<7> ohgood: where exactly does it lock up at?
<7> all of the machines have different hardware
<6> sha1sum: directly after loading the kernel, i guess where linux would do hardware detection
<7> (not all, but alot)
<2> ohgood, can you take a look at this? http://www.symphonyos.com/devshots/2.png
<6> sha1sum: i see
<1> it's possible that this .deb won't work on your system and there could be many reasons for that
<6> GiGaHuRtZ: are those gdesklets ?
<2> i cant figure out what the hell GUI that is...
<2> no
<6> oh
<2> its a whole gui!
<7> ohgood: which distribution of bsd?
<2> i have it running right now...
<6> sha1sum: free, open, and pc
<11> sha1sum: Gentoo also has binary versions of many of the programs, so you don't need to compile everything if you don't want to.
<6> GiGaHuRtZ: looks like kde, with superkaramba then, imo
<7> ohgood: so let's take freebsd for example... did it boot the install CD okay/
<7> ///?
<6> sha1sum: yes
<2> any one else have what this is? http://www.symphonyos.com/devshots/2.png
<2> its not kde...
<2> i cant right click
<2> lmao
<7> ohgood: I believe the GENERIC kernel, which is installed by default, is the same kernel that is on the install CD, so I doubt that it's a kernel problem
<2> there is no menus at all...
<6> sha1sum: i don't have anything exotic, justa gigabyte, via, ata's :\
<5> jim, i try sudo rm /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/savage_drv.o then try installing it again, but it gives me the same message
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