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<0> hehe
<0> you wanna try a good distro?
<1> birdfish, whats wrong with zenwalk?
<1> ive never tried it
<1> just curious
<2> It led me to install lilo ;)
<0> birdfish, try Vector linux
<0> soho edition
<0> easy to use and non bloat...
<1> linuxda thats hard to do with open source stuff cause no one _has_ to abide by any standards beyond normal unix stuff << reminds me of bittorent clients
<1> all do the same advanced things in different incompatable ways
<1> :/
<3> agreed
<3> i mean tho, the flip side is that
<2> GiGaHuRtZ: good platform to learn linux (commands and all) on?
<2> That's what I'm really interested in
<0> yup :)
<2> :D
<2> Cool
<0> make sure to get soho
<3> they can't be maimed by stupid*** standards (e.g. The Windows Registry)
<1> linuxda, plurality has its strengths too
<0> standard is useless
<1> linuxda, yep
<1> GiGaHuRtZ, that is wrong
<1> totally wrong
<1> oh nm
<1> :)
<0> huh?
<0> i was talking a distro
<0> wrong convo bro
<1> i thought you ment "standards are useless"
<1> :P
<3> heh.
<0> no, linux needs some standards
<2> Okay
<1> its odd
<0> its bull****, if your gonna use a package mangers, just have one linux wide!
<1> alot of linux distros dont clear out /tmp on reboot :/
<3> i agree with that
<0> i call em, package manglers
<1> GiGaHuRtZ, ego gets in the way
<1> tar.gz is the only package managment i need
<1> :)
<0> thats why my main rig, uses LFS
<3> that isn't enough tho
<0> **** that package mangler bs
<1> linuxda, its enough for me
<3> what about uninstalling, verification
<3> i mean it work
<1> not for some though you are right
<3> but what if you had to do it for 500 boxes?
<1> not for some though you are right
<1> i know :)
<0> for some, aka the people that are novices are to bothered by non simplicity
<1> LFS is a good learning experience
<1> allthough using it in production is rather retarded :)
<0> LFS is just good in general imo
<0> i will never get rid of it on my main system
<0> and im about to make my server LFS
<1> why?
<1> thats a bad move
<3> its his box tho. he built and maintains it like no one else will.
<0> because all i need is a base system, with proftpd :)
<1> very hard to be a one man exploit tracking team
<3> LFS is fine, tho perhaps a bit of extra effort for security updates and thigns
<1> especially when somone can do it for you =(
<0> it's a warez box, and i dont bother with security, besides the main patches...
<1> GiGaHuRtZ, heh
<0> i have every version of windows imaginable on it
<0> heh
<1> anyone know it gdm will install standalone
<1> without barfing?
<0> barfing? do you have to clean it up? :P
<1> GiGaHuRtZ, naw
<1> /tmp takes care of it all
<1> :)
<0> hehe
<1> it has a very nicemultiple x-terminal feture
<1> that neither xdm or kdm have
<0> eh, never messed with it
<0> i decided to dive into xorg 7 right now...
<1> i want to have both my boxes GUIs stitting on one computer
<1> and vnc is totall crap :)
<3> x2x or synergy - best program ever.
<1> along with nx :P
<0> it seems that lxorg will do 32bit now...
<1> linuxda, what do those do?
<4> martian67: gdm needs x client libs and probably needs gnome libs
<1> jim, yep
<1> apears so
<4> if you don't install what it needs, it won't run :)
<1> correction
<1> it wont compile :)
<4> well, yes, but I'
<3> you take 2 seperate boxes running X or windows/VNC, you take your main box and use only that mouse and keyboard then
<5> Man compiling php takes a decade.
<4> m talking runtime libs
<3> put the monitors side by side
<1> linuxda, nah i dont want that
<4> try Woman compiling php
<3> and then x2x or x2vnc lets you move your mouse from one monitor over to the other, forwarding your keyboard and mouse
<3> very useful for running linux/windows side by side
<0> what version of gdm?
<1> linuxda, hmm
<1> GiGaHuRtZ, 2.8
<1> but i wont be using that version
<6> in gnu parted, how can i know the number of the hd i try to access, i only know that it is hdd5, but number 5 doesn't work. so what number is it ?
<0> 2.6.9?
<1> because i dont have new enough ftk libs
<1> *gtk
<1> and i dont want to break everything by upgrading gtk
<3> I used it at my boring-*** consulting job to make it look like I was working cause no one knew what the hell linux was there
<0> martian, would this help at all? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/gnome/gdm.html
<1> linuxda, fluxbox + lots of transparent terminals
<3> yea man
<1> will confuse them every time
<1> :)
<1> GiGaHuRtZ, most likely ;)
<0> hehe]
<0> your going from scratch right?
<1> hell no
<1> slackwarez :P
<0> ya
<0> same diff
<3> http://einsteinsbreakfast.com/images/screens/fluxbox-bebop3.jpg <-- mine
<0> from source
<1> but it will still be helpful
<1> GiGaHuRtZ, yea
<0> just click the deps
<1> windowmaker for the win
<0> and it shows the deps for each dep
<0> hehe
<1> GiGaHuRtZ, good old dep trees :)
<0> i dont get those
<0> cause i start from the begining
<1> GiGaHuRtZ, i will probly end up downloading most of gnome
<0> yup
<1> just for the functionality im looking for :(
<1> hmm i have a better idea
<0> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/gnome/gdm.html
<0> thats a bit newer
<3> apt-get install xorg (waits 30 mins) [bing]
<1> install old slackware gnome
<0> gdm 2.8 :)
<1> gdm is the only thing i want anyway
<0> i've never done dev BLFS though
<2> Alright guys, I'm out for the night. 1:30 and time for bed.
<2> Gigahurtz: thanks for all of your help!
<0> np
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