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<0> "nice" is not a good word to aplly to one
<0> dont use dd
<1> [away] [reason: autoaway after 30 minute(s) idle] [since: 23:49:30] [logger: on] [pager: on]
<0> mkfs on the new drive, mnt new and cp -pirv to new
<2> I need an exact copy
<0> you cant have it
<3> erm....yea, dd would not be the best way to do it
<0> do as your inner quiznos says
<3> lol
<4> Eat Quiznos subs?
<0> no no no
<0> oney your inner quiznos
<0> obey
<3> freeone3000: well, top displays the priority and nice values
<5> how do you install linux to an external drive? i got it installed, but how do you boot to it using grub, ***uming windows is on the only internal drive?
<2> ok, probably better why should I not use dd (as have been told that cp has endian problems and does not copy the file system table over



<4> Huh. Looks like while I was chatting here, it finished.
<3> freeone3000: ah, there we go
<3> EvilGuru: because dd will copy the entire filesystem structure, not just the data
<3> EvilGuru: which given that it will be 2 different partitions could lead to problems, especially if they are sized differently
<2> I want the file system junk as well and the hournal
<2> *journal
<2> it is for a backup
<3> why not just the data?
<6> hmm, it seems im having a problem in the new 2.6.15.5 kernel, direct i/o on NFS wont compile for mr
<7> how do I check if direct hardware renendering isenabled?
<2> as the partition is semi-fscked and have been advised to back it up fully
<4> semi-fsckd.
<3> EvilGuru: that way you can restore it to any filesystem
<8> how can I set it so that a regular user can mount and unmount a FS? it has the user option in fstab
<3> so...run fsck on it
<4> Andr3w_: Done.
<4> Andr3w_: THey just can't format it.
<8> it doesnt work though
<4> Andr3w_: Yes, it does.
<3> EvilGuru: now...what you could do with dd is...
<4> Andr3w_: Did you try using a reloaded bash shell?
<8> i'm trying to use kde
<8> /dev/sdf1 /media/usbdisk vfat user,noatime,pamconsole,exec,noauto,utf8,managed 0 0
<3> EvilGuru: dd the drive to a file on the other partition, and then mount it loopback to get access to the data and cp/mv it to where you need it to be
<2> I only want to create a copy of the parition, that if it all goes wrong
<2> I can restore back, fully there
<3> EvilGuru: ah, well, then you want to dd it to a file
<2> I do not need to be able to read or mount the image
<2> Drizzt321: yep
<3> EvilGuru: essentially dd if=/dev/part1 of=/mnt/part2/backup_part1.bin
<8> the only real problem is that a regular user can't write to it
<3> EvilGuru: and then later you can either ddif=/mnt/part2/backup_part1.bin /dev/part1 or mount it via loopback to copy the data
<9> can someone tell me what the command 'which xmessage' tells them (if you're running linux and x11)
<3> Andr3w_: thats a seperate issue
<8> oh I know what I did
<8> forgot the rw option
<3> Andr3w_: you need to either add the user(s) to a group that has write permissions, or change the owner/group of the mountpoint
<10> Andr3w_: umask=0
<11> goodbye folks
<3> ahhh
<3> that'd do it
<3> EvilGuru: does what I told you make sense?
<2> dd if=/dev/sdc2 of=/home/freddie/Test/partition.image bs=4096 conv=notrunc,noerror seem ok
<5> so, anyone know much about external drives?
<3> evulish: usb? firewire? sata?
<2> to back up /dev/sdc2 to /home/freddie/Test/partition.image (/dev/sdc2 is not mounted)
<8> thanks ALOT guys!
<3> EvilGuru: seems so
<5> usb2
<3> Andr3w_: no problem
<3> evulish: I know some newer bios's have the ability to boot from usb keys/drives
<3> evulish: you could try that
<3> evulish: not sure if grub can load a kernel off of a usb drive directly without the bios cooperating...so you might not be able to install grub to the internal drive and load the kernel off of the external one
<3> evulish: but...I would read the docs for that one and not take my word for it
<2> the syntax of dd is weird
<3> how so?
<4> Ehm, why can't I see the toolbars?
<2> if does not seem to have anything to do with the programming concept of if (input-file??)
<4> Windows has toolbars, Linux does not, compiled from the same source.
<3> EvilGuru: huh? if means in-file, of means out-file
<3> freeone3000: huh?



<3> freeone3000: no clue what you are talking about
<4> Drizzt321: The little things below the title bar that show the things you can do.
<3> freeone3000: what software are you trying to use? and what window manager/desktop?
<4> Drizzt321: Like for this window (KSIRC), "Channel, Edit, Command, Window, Setings"
<4> VisualBoyAdvance, KDE.
<3> might be the software
<5> woops
<4> Alrighty. Now to fix teh software.
<3> I think you can configure KDE to go OS X style with the menu's up at the top
<3> for every window
<3> evulish: ?
<12> yes, you can
<4> I like Windows style.
<3> I'm not saying its configured that way right now, but its a possibility you need to rule out
<5> Drizzt321: laptop went to sleep. the computer can boot to the external drive, but whenever i do, it just says 'no boot device available'.. i think that's because grub got installed on the MBR, so there's nothing on the external drive
<5> is there a way to tell grub what drive to be installed on?
<13> yes
<13> it's the argument to grun install command
<13> use the help
<13> gub
<14> hey, I downloaded an avi file from newsgroups in multiple parts. These parts are named filename.XXX where XXX = 001 through 025. It looks like it's just a split up avi file, and not an archive. Is there a command to merge these files?
<15> cat filename.* > filename.avi
<16> Looking for a way to restrict people I've given SSH accounts to certain reasonable commands, and to prevent my system from being nuked, anyone have any advisories?
<14> koala_man, thanks. That should do it in the right order automaticly?
<15> NatureTM: yes
<17> jailshell or similar type of locking them in their home dirs
<16> gufymike, how configurable is it?
<17> cartesian1984, not sure don't use it much.
<18> can anyone tell me why this cron job isnt running: 1 * * * * /usr/local/awstats/wwwroot/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -update -config=www.mydomain.com
<18> ?
<17> --updaye --config ?
<17> --update*
<18> huh?
<17> if thats not it then : 1 * * * * <user> /usr/local/awstats/wwwroot/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -update -config=www.mydomain.com
<17> shouldn't update and config have two hyphens preceeding it
<18> well i have other crontabs that dont have the user and run fine
<18> gufymike why do i need hyphones?
<19> heya
<17> Ok the question is does it work like that at the command line, why, because 99% of the time a app takes -- for a full word for example ls -r or ls --recursive
<5> yarg
<17> sup Aleo ?
<18> no no no
<18> no double hyps...
<5> ok, so i'm running grub-install /dev/sda and it's throwing an error that says "/dev/sdb does not have any corresponding bios drive"
<19> gufymike: nothing much just work and and trying something :)
<18> if you do that the application wont execute right
<18> it has nothing to do with that
<5> where in the world is sdb coming from?
<17> ok
<17> the question still arises does this work fine if you run it at the command line /usr/local/awstats/wwwroot/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -update -config=www.mydomain.com
<17> and you wnat it to run every minute?
<19> is it possible to drop a request which comes by redirecting from another website?
<17> */1 * * * * /usr/local/awstats/wwwroot/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -update -config=www.mydomain.com <-- runs it every minute without the */ it runs it on the first minute of the hour
<18> gufymike thanks
<18> but now i noticed something else by looking at /var/log/cron
<18> it seems that none of my jobs run anymore since 3:30 except for one ?
<18> what is with that?
<20> how big does my swap partition need to be?
<17> check /var/log/messages dunno. Might need to restart crond or you messed up something in crontab (voting for the second one)
<18> i already restarted crontab
<18> no help there
<18> crond[10029]: (tmp.10373) ORPHAN (no p***wd entry)
<17> V4Vendetta, as big as you want it, but around = to the physical ram, no more than double it, if you get it too big it will hurt performance as the system is trying to search through
<17> it
<18> besides that line in /var/log/cron crond starts up just fine
<20> gufymike, so if i have 1gb ram, 1gb swap is right/
<17> yeah
<21> re
<17> hey eastneo
<18> so what is tmp.10373
<18> looks like its empty on my machine
<21> hey gufymike
<17> <-- not sure Ambrosh I haven't ran into this myself, but I wold say a tmp pid - file for something.
<16> gufymike, what was the restrictive shell you had in mind? I can't seem to find jail shell, is it proprietary?


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