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<0> spenser, hey...just like nero did...good idea
<1> ;)
<2> Or contract with a crematorium and a thermodecomposition company.
<0> thermodepolymerisiation is a good technology
<2> headmonkey: quite a lot.
<2> It depends how fast you tip them into the input mincer.
<2> On the plus side - higher motivation.
<0> does anyone know if a directory entry can be a symbolic link and a directory ??
<3> animals that wouldn't 'answer back'
<4> Iron_Chef: Don't you dare approach it with logic, y'hear ;P
<0> i dont think it can
<3> DerJamster: it's weird heh
<2> IronI think the point was to extract the mental energy somehow.



<4> Iron_Chef: http://www.machall.com/index.php?strip_id=194
<3> headmonkey: it can be too one, and act like one, but in the ind it's a different kind of file
<0> Iron_Chef, as reported by stat() ... a symlink will be a symlink to a directory, but not a directory, correct ?
<2> yes
<2> you tell which by the name IIRC
<3> headmonkey: i think so, it will behave like a directory in that case, but - diff kind o file
<0> the name ?
<0> nevermind ... i figure it out when my file manager does something wierd
<3> DerJamster: yeah, what was the logical point of their (esp smith's) pathological hatred of humans? waste of energy exactly ;-)
<5> I wonder if my Ozzy Osbourne CD is DRMed...
<5> Naw... I ripped that **** decades ago...
<4> Iron_Chef: check the previous strip, too ;)
<6> hi
<2> I meant that a symbolic link that's a link to a dir will usually have / at the end of the 'to' name
<2> Not always however
<2> you've basically gotta check the underlying file
<2> As ln -s /tmp tmp is as valid as ln -s /tmp/ tmp
<0> SpeedEvil, yeah...i will ... i have an if() that exits if its not a directory atm ... will add the symlink thing later
<6> is there something I can do about a machine (x86_64) crashing somewhere in a netfilter-module? unfortunately that machine is remote, without a serial-console available
<6> is it possible to redirect the kernel-oops by network or so?
<5> The neat thing about getting something on /. is that you get famous really fast.
<2> stefan2: Look in the 'kenrole hacking' options
<5> Now just google peterfa...
<0> i have to fix the cwd logic, as it doesnt change to the directory when you double click on it...it just figures out the new path and reads it
<2> 'kernel hacking'
<2> stefan2: there are a few ways to get it to dump oopses in various places
<2> stefan2: there are also third party patches
<6> speedevil: unfortunately I can't recompile the kernel
<7> SpeedEvil: how do i block my ip to being seen by /dns wwallace
<2> wwallace_lap: You need a cloak
<7> how do i get it?
<5> !google peterfa
<2> wwallace_lap: Basically, you have to convince a staffer to give you one.
<5> rats
<7> oh
<2> headmonkey: by the time it kernel panics, gtk isn't awake
<0> SpeedEvil, what ?
<0> SpeedEvil, i dont get kernel panics ;)
<0> SpeedEvil, i just want a screen snapshot ;)
<2> headmonkey: Oh - I thought you were talking of the earlier comment - guy with no serial port and oopses on a remote box
<2> headmonkey: xv
<0> SpeedEvil, nah...i dont care about him ;)
<2> xgrab?
<6> speedevil: if at least I could find the exact module in which it fails. I think there are about 3-4 netfilter-modules involved
<0> no xgrab apparently either...at least no manpage for it
<3> DerJamster: cool site thanks for that link :-)
<2> err - not xgram
<2> b
<4> Iron_Chef: no prob :>
<5> Time flies like an arrow... fruit flies like a banana.
<2> stefan2: Are you sure you can't recompile?
<2> stefan2: is it just annoying, or impossible.
<6> speedevil: sure
<2> Sigh
<0> no matches found...bummer
<2> xgrab was the wrong name
<3> see yas! /me goes to buy big-iron :-)



<2> I can't remember the right one
<6> speedevil: funny thing is that it works fine on an otherwise identical i386 - but crashes my x86_64 after a few library-calls
<2> stefan2: Check the current config for any oops/panic dumping crashes
<2> Is the second one the box in question?
<2> where you can't get to it?
<0> there you go...a 64 bit software crash
<0> SpeedEvil, xwd ?
<2> that may be it
<6> speedevil: nothing shown on grep -i "panic" or "oops" on the config
<2> yeah
<2> :/
<0> yup...its on my box, has a manpage, and says it does it
<6> only # CONFIG_IPMI_PANIC_EVENT is not set
<6> but I guess that's something else if I remember IPMI correctly :-)
<2> It crashes immediately?
<2> Can you reset?
<6> speedevil: not immediately, but reproducable
<6> speedevil: i use the ipset-userspace-tool to trigger the error
<6> speedevil: after adding about 300-350 entries into an ipset-hash it hangs
<6> speedevil: I can at least hard-reboot that machine remotely
<2> Ok, can you reset it? If so - have you tried loading modules one by one?
<2> Also maybe search the kernel mailing list for bugs
<6> speedevil: it's not a sleeping module that crashes it
<2> is it a recent kernel?
<2> See if you can provoke it with only one or two loaded?
<6> speedevil: I think it has got to do with those netfilter-modules I compiled against the kernel-devel-package of the running kernel
<8> How do I compile a kernel module that has the right version magic for my UML kernel? Even though I'm pointing make to the UML kernel source tree, when I try to insmod the module inside my UML kernel it complains it has the version magic of my host machine (I'm compiling in the host environment -- the UML kernel environment doesn't have gcc)
<2> The modules weren't built at the same time as the kernel?
<6> speedevil: it's a redhat-enterprise-one (2.6.9 with lots of fixes) - but otherwise up-to-date
<6> speedevil: no
<2> Tehre are all sorts of possible problems then
<2> Can you get redhat pre-built modules?
<6> speedevil: well, I didn't build them somewhere else on a kernel-compile and copy them over. I did compile them against the kernel-devel-package offered by redhat for that kernel
<6> unfortunately those two netfilter-modules I need aren't available for that redhat-kernel
<2> I don't know enough about it to comment - as I always do it manually
<9> Does anyone know where the GNU-RADIO channel is?
<2> I would first search the linux kernel mailing list for reported bugs
<6> speedevil: the ipset-functionality is quite new anyway
<6> speedevil: I did search for related bugs together with the term netfilter or ipset for quite a while now - without success
<2> Yeah - but 2.6.9 is quite old .
<2> :(
<2> You might try mailing the listed maintainer.
<10> hello, i am trying to setup my dns server and i think i've done everything correctly but i can't figure out why its not working
<2> JakeConnor: what happens?
<6> speedevil: not sure if I'm on the right way - but on identical system with i386-arch it works fine repeatable
<2> Does it explode?
<2> stefan2: Yeah - that's just annoying.
<10> SpeedEvil: pretty much yes
<2> JakeConnor: Call the bomb squad.
<10> SpeedEvil: i get this error when trying to find the A record... Searching for iphlexx.com A record at ns1.iphlexx.com. [64.69.42.224]: Server failure! [took 88 ms].
<2> Anything in logs?
<2> I haven't actually done bind/dns, so can't really help much "(
<5> The funny thing about DRM is that it's been around since a short while after computers where m***ed produced.
<5> The first virus was created for the purpose of DRM.
<5> A company got sick of people copying their software, so they made a virus to see how far the copies got.
<11> PeterFA: who was that?
<5> Microsoft Windows XP has has DRM too.
<5> basbryan, I forget, but the interesting thing about this is that this was for Apple machines.
<5> Microsoft Windows XP Product Activation is DRM... it's not really that invasive or controlling. It does make it harder to pirate their software.
<6> speedevil: I will see to track this down somehow. meanwhile, thank you very much
<11> didn't xp eula talk about tem being able to monitor your activities?
<5> We all should take a lesson from Microsoft though, the Product Activation is just a subtle hint that you really shouldn't be using their product... as in, "Are you really sure about this?"
<5> basbryan, I don't know.
<5> basbryan, maybe it's in there somewhere.
<5> Microsoft wants to make it harder for you to use Windows just like the warning labels on cigarettes and bottles of liquor.
<5> "Warning, this product will **** your *** up."
<11> lol
<5> Microsoft is not an evil company afterall.
<5> MSN Messenger is pretty much the MOST BLOATED PEICE OF ****ING SPYWARE I have ever seen.
<5> Spyware, and adware.
<5> i **** you not.
<11> worse than real media fiasco?
<11> the one from gibson research?
<5> basbryan, that simply didn't function... it did do pop ups and such. The deal with MSN Messenger is that every where you look there are ads and things requesting money.


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