| |
| |
| |
|
Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40
Comments:
<0> that arnt tetris clones
<1> aand maybe do some stuff that ubuntu doesnt do
<0> and are accually over a meg in siz
<0> *size
<1> OK games are not really an issue there are lots
<0> whats the problem with what ubuntu does
<0> it can do anything any other linux can
<1> ubuntu is great
<1> no problem
<0> obviously there is
<0> :)
<1> I just want to try new stuff
<0> i dislike ubuntu
<1> for fun
<1> why?
<0> it feels too noobish for my tastes
<0> i hate being treated like a retard
<1> well it is
<1> but as a first distro it's perfect
<1> now I'm looking for a "second" distro
<0> but if you arnt ready for command line
<2> Martian67, wesnoth
<0> i cant really recomend anything else
<1> I'm learning
<0> PeterFA: whats that
<2> Martian67, a game
<0> PeterFA: wow thanks :P
<0> grandslam: 2 friends... man and apropos
<1> I'm not *afraid* of using command lines, only problem is that I still need to have a list of commands
<0> thats what apropos is
<1> ok
<0> an list of commands
<1> ok
<0> on your system
<1> and man?
<0> type "apropos <something>"
<0> w/o quotes
<0> grandslam: man is the best part of linux
<2> Martian67, no, it's not WoW
<1> ok, and I am visiting quite often some linux sites
<0> its an online command reference
<0> grandslam
<0> man ls
<0> for instance
<1> online command reference? hm I must try that thx
<0> NOONE who uses unix
<0> keeps all the commands and their switches in their heads
<0> that would just be insane
<3> Yes, they do.
<0> Dagmar: ALL of them?
<0> i find that unlikely :)
<3> You might as well say "OMG English has 76,000 words? No one could possibly keep all that in their head."
<0> Dagmar: touche'
<1> of course not, that would be like remembering "all" dos commands or all the html commands or a whole coding language, no one does that
<0> grandslam: thats why man and apropos are your friends on the command line
<1> but I still need the list of the basics (It gets samller every day)
<0> apropos is like a "command search engine"
<3> Actually, IIRC apropos just searches the summary lines of man pages
<0> so type
<0> Dagmar: that would be correct
<1> but the question was about ubuntu is a good first distro; what can be a good second distro then?
<0> it can be made to search entire man pages
<0> but that takes forever
<4> grandslam: fedora
<0> grandslam: i use slackware
<1> command search engine? sounds good
<0> but you are going to get a different opinion from everyone
<0> grandslam: so type "apropos html"
<0> it will give you commands that deal with html
<0> etc
<1> I'm thinking slackware, actually but I havent really decided yet
<1> cool
<1> so if I type say apropos java I will get java related sommands
<1> commands
<3> Slackware is good if you want to get down to the bare metal of the system.
<5> hello, how can i start a program in ssh and keep it running even whe i log out?
<0> yes
<0> Dagmar: thats why i love it
<1> and if I type apropos port scan and apropos telnet I can have some fun
<0> i hate trumphed up abstractoin
<3> There's very few candy-coated buttons on it, so if you can learn how to make Slackware go, you can flat out byp*** all the stupid candy-colored buttons in the "fancier" distros
<1> ok thats cool thx for that 1
<0> Dagmar: hence, "you know slackware... you know linux"
<5> hello, how can i start a program in ssh and keep it running even when i log out? i think the command was something with an h... does anyone know?
<3> I have more patches to submit to PV.
<0> most heavy lifiting in slackware is in the config files and on the command line
<0> nemik: screen
<4> grandslam: I'd say... entry level/windows users: knoppix, ubuntu, mepis mid-level: fedora "upper"-level: gentoo and I don't know where you'd put debian ;)
<3> If he rejects them out of hand, I swear to god I will never ****ing waste my time mailing him again
<1> well "you know linux" is a big thing, probably not even Linus does, after all the customized kernels and hudred of distros...
<5> Martian 67: screen? then the app-name?
<0> that IS the app name
<0> man screen
<0> learn all about it
<1> debian would be medium I guess
<6> you're probably thinking about nohup but Martian67's suggestion is better.
<0> also there is job control
<0> but i dislike job control
<1> and I know for sure I'm not ready for gentoo
<5> no i don't have that app. yes i was thinking nohup thank you! why is screen better though?
<0> because screen gives you more control
<0> in attaching and detaching sessions
<0> are you SURE you dont that screen?
<3> nemik: because with screen you can actually still see what's going on.
<0> that would be quite odd
<5> Dagmar: ok, thanks
<0> *dont have
<7> nemik, with screen you can start programs, logout, login later and resume them
<5> sleeep-o: just apt-got screen, it is great! thank you guys
<0> Dagmar: what do the patches relate to?
<3> For one, the dhclient binary in the dhcp package hasn't worked in years.
<4> grandslam: I've got fedora on 2 machines, and gentoo on my main machine.
<3> I'm trying once more to make him aware of that
<3> Another is that it's bull**** that people have to manually set the mixer element names and unmute the volume levels in ALSA
<0> Dagmar: yes i have noticed a few nigging things myself
<3> I've a patch to rc.alsa that eliminates both of those things for probably 99% of the users
<0> mixer element names and unmute the volume levels in ALSA << that is very annoying
<3> http://dagmar.droplinegnome.org/experimental/rc.alsa
<0> and it is probly the #1 slackware question
<0> why does sound not work
<3> Oh hell the usual reason sound doesn't work is something Dropline has *fixed* but Patrick despises what we used to fix it
<0> whats that?
<3> Deployment of PAM and pam_console
<1> how about slckware? could that be good for someone who is just starting to feel ubuntu a little too newbie-ish?
<3> ...so that when someone logs in *at the console* they have the console devices chowned to them.
<3> No more audio group bull****
<0> Dagmar: well its understandable how he would reject it then
<0> if you roll both into the same patch
<3> Reject what?
<0> does the rc. thing use pam?
<3> Why the **** would something to set defaults for ALSA use pam?
<0> i dont know
<0> but thats the impression you gave
<3> Dude, it's a shell script. I had to add all of two stanzas and two hooks.
<0> ok, that makes more sence then :)
<0> i was like " why the **** is his shellscript using pam"
<0> :/
<0> i think i may try dropline
<8> anyone running an x2 4800?
<8> just curious what your stock core volatge is
<6> no, but i want one of those.
<9> Help -- with wvdial I'm able to connect to the internet but the interface ppp0 doesn't exist (when I type ifconfig it only shows 'lo') what could be the problem? (I'm using Ubuntu 5.04 by the way)
<0> Dagmar: so dropline is pretty much a general fixup of slackwares niggling issues + gnome?
<6> my 3000+ has a core voltage of 1.5 volts. there should be specs on http://amd64.com
<3> No, mainly it's *just* Gnome.
<8> gm152, i was looking but didnt find it
<3> We try not to meddle in "Patrick-space" any more than we absolutely have to
<8> my 4400 is 1.35V
<0> hmm
<3> About the only thing that's even borderline in that respect is X.
<0> if you have already pissed him off with pam
Return to
#linux
or
Go to some related
logs:
perl -le 'print PRIME if (1 x shift) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/' 19
#perl
debian S36discover line 204 problem
#lisp
FATAL: Module saa7134_alsa not found.
permutate python
cfdisk shuffle
#gentoo
ubuntu disk manager access path
dhcp3-server ubuntu pkg
|
|